[Vanessa]

She's a strong woman, but i don't think she's a bully.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's a strong woman, but i don't think she's a bully.

whats strong woman got to do with it? shes lied about the father having aids for starters.

[Saph]

If it wasn't for Madonna, I wouldn't even know Malawi exists.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Saph

If it wasn't for Madonna, I wouldn't even know Malawi exists.

That's not a good thing.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Saph

If it wasn't for Madonna, I wouldn't even know Malawi exists.

I think thats more a poor reflection of the education system than any praise to pre-madonna

[Apple202]

Originally Posted by Saph

If it wasn't for Madonna, I wouldn't even know Malawi exists.

[2]

Madonna made Malawi

[the truth]

heres proof the truth speaks the truth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-AIDS-lie.html



David's father: I'll never escape stigma of Madonna's AIDS 'lie'By STEPHEN BEVAN, Mail on Sunday
Last updated at 22:03 28 October 2006


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Yohane Banda
The father of Madonna's adopted orphan has dismissed as a lie the singer's claim on TV that his wife and other children died of AIDS.
Yohane Banda, 32, whose wife died aged 25 after giving birth to 13-month-old David, says he will now have to live with the stigma.
The African peasant farmer also denied the superstar's allegation that he had never visited his son at the orphanage, to which he was entrusted at the age of two weeks.
Speaking on the Oprah Winfrey Show last week, Madonna, 48, said when she met David at the orphanage in Malawi she was told his mother and three siblings had died of AIDS, while his father's whereabouts were unknown.
But Mr Banda, who lives in the village of Lipunga, close to the border with Zambia, said: "She never went for an HIV test and she died in Zambia at her parents' house, so how could anyone know if that is what she died of?"
The clinic she attended when she became ill during pregnancy had diagnosed anaemia, he added.
Later, when she was admitted to hospital in Malawi, he was told she had a physical condition that made childbirth very risky.
Mr Banda insisted he had two other children - not three as Madonna was told - one of whom had died of malaria, while the other died suddenly at 18 months from an unknown cause. Neither was HIV positive as far as he knew.
Mr Banda said he was worried that if people believed Madonna's claims, they would stigmatise him.
In the TV interview, Madonna said David had been abandoned by his family. "No one from his extended family had visited him since he arrived," she told Oprah. But Mr Banda insisted this was also "a lie", adding: "I visited David many times, too many to count."
The baby was also visited by his grandmother, while Mr Banda's brother, Profera, "saw him almost every day, sometimes twice a day".
Despite his anger at the slurs, Mr Banda refused to blame Madonna and instead accused the orphanage of giving her "false information".
However, an official at the Home of Hope Orphan Care Centre insisted: "We gave her no such information," and instead pointed the finger at Malawi's Ministry of Gender and Child Welfare.
Meanwhile, although David has been in the UK for less than two weeks, Madonna has introduced him to her Kabbalah faith.
The move is likely to upset Mr Banda, who was told his son was going to "a very nice Christian lady". Madonna took the toddler to the Friday night Shabat ceremony at the Central London Kabbalah Centre, and invited other children to "come and play with baby David".
The boy even wore the Kabbalah red string bracelet, believed by followers to ward off evil spirits.


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[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

heres proof the truth speaks the truth

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-AIDS-lie.html



David's father: I'll never escape stigma of Madonna's AIDS 'lie'By STEPHEN BEVAN, Mail on Sunday
Last updated at 22:03 28 October 2006


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Yohane Banda
The father of Madonna's adopted orphan has dismissed as a lie the singer's claim on TV that his wife and other children died of AIDS.
Yohane Banda, 32, whose wife died aged 25 after giving birth to 13-month-old David, says he will now have to live with the stigma.
The African peasant farmer also denied the superstar's allegation that he had never visited his son at the orphanage, to which he was entrusted at the age of two weeks.
Speaking on the Oprah Winfrey Show last week, Madonna, 48, said when she met David at the orphanage in Malawi she was told his mother and three siblings had died of AIDS, while his father's whereabouts were unknown.
But Mr Banda, who lives in the village of Lipunga, close to the border with Zambia, said: "She never went for an HIV test and she died in Zambia at her parents' house, so how could anyone know if that is what she died of?"
The clinic she attended when she became ill during pregnancy had diagnosed anaemia, he added.
Later, when she was admitted to hospital in Malawi, he was told she had a physical condition that made childbirth very risky.
Mr Banda insisted he had two other children - not three as Madonna was told - one of whom had died of malaria, while the other died suddenly at 18 months from an unknown cause. Neither was HIV positive as far as he knew.
Mr Banda said he was worried that if people believed Madonna's claims, they would stigmatise him.
In the TV interview, Madonna said David had been abandoned by his family. "No one from his extended family had visited him since he arrived," she told Oprah. But Mr Banda insisted this was also "a lie", adding: "I visited David many times, too many to count."
The baby was also visited by his grandmother, while Mr Banda's brother, Profera, "saw him almost every day, sometimes twice a day".
Despite his anger at the slurs, Mr Banda refused to blame Madonna and instead accused the orphanage of giving her "false information".
However, an official at the Home of Hope Orphan Care Centre insisted: "We gave her no such information," and instead pointed the finger at Malawi's Ministry of Gender and Child Welfare.
Meanwhile, although David has been in the UK for less than two weeks, Madonna has introduced him to her Kabbalah faith.
The move is likely to upset Mr Banda, who was told his son was going to "a very nice Christian lady". Madonna took the toddler to the Friday night Shabat ceremony at the Central London Kabbalah Centre, and invited other children to "come and play with baby David".
The boy even wore the Kabbalah red string bracelet, believed by followers to ward off evil spirits.


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well it's possible that both Mr. Banda, and Madonna are telling the truth. It sounds like both Mr. Banda and Madonna were being manipulated by the Malawian authorities, and I have sympathy for both if that is the case.

I hope that Madonna will support her son David when he's older if he wants to contact his biological father.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well it's possible that both Mr. Banda, and Madonna are telling the truth. It sounds like both Mr. Banda and Madonna were being manipulated by the Malawian authorities, and I have sympathy for both if that is the case.

I hope that Madonna will support her son David when he's older if he wants to contact his biological father.

no it sounds like madonna was lying and slandering a poor uneducated father who was powerless to defend himself against these falseties, she said plenty more too about him being an absentee father, etc just to make herself appear a better person in front of her multi millionaire feminist audience who of course clapped like seals and never once questioned the pack of lies she was telling them, I hope this man takes legal action if he could ever afford it, he wasnt even made aware she was taking his baby permanently. you can bet he will play no part in the babys life, disgusting

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

no it sounds like madonna was lying and slandering a poor uneducated father who was powerless to defend himself against these falseties, she said plenty more too about him being an absentee father, etc just to make herself appear a better person in front of her multi millionaire feminist audience who of course clapped like seals and never once questioned the pack of lies she was telling them, I hope this man takes legal action if he could ever afford it, he wasnt even made aware she was taking his baby permanently. you can bet he will play no part in the babys life, disgusting

He abandoned his son. That's a fact. You don't give your son to an orphanage unless you are abandoning him, because you cannot care for him. If he wanted to keep his son, he would have given his son his own food, he would have starved himself to give food for his son, he would have done whatever it took to keep his son. he ABANDONED his son. period. Mr. Banda is not starving, and Mr. Banda seems to be a healthy man, so clearly he has enuf food to feed himself.

When you put your son in an orphanage you understand that you are abandoning them. If it wasn't a super rich megastar that adopted him, do you honestly think he would be trying to get back in the child's life? We see this with so many abandoned children, when they strike it rich, all of a sudden parents that abandon their children all of a sudden want to be parents.

[Jack_]

I don't care about this topic but this thread has been a very entertaining read

[swinearefine]

Sounds like Malawi is the real bully here.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Sounds like Malawi is the real bully here.

For daring to treat her just like everyone else? She isn't a superior human.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

For daring to treat her just like everyone else? She isn't a superior human.

That's where your argument falls apart.

Actually idgaf about Madonna.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

That's where your argument falls apart.

Actually idgaf about Madonna.

Why? Because I suggest there's nothing wrong with Madonna having to go through airport procedures just like anyone else? And that they pulled her up on her lies?

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Why? Because I suggest there's nothing wrong with Madonna having to go through airport procedures just like anyone else? And that they pulled her up on her lies?

Yeah

[Marsh.]