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Old 17-06-2013, 10:38 PM #1
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The important point is....don't make generalized statements about ANY race, for any reasons. Just treat everyone as individuals and you won't get into any trouble.
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The important point is....don't make generalized statements about ANY race, for any reasons. Just treat everyone as individuals and you won't get into any trouble.
there's a lot of truth in that, well said Alex
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The important point is....don't make generalized statements about ANY race, for any reasons. Just treat everyone as individuals and you won't get into any trouble.
So if I was to say, "All Asians are so hot". Thats racist?
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So if I was to say, "All Asians are so hot". Thats racist?
Yes it is. You are referring to billions of people as one homogenous hot mass based on their race. The statement disregards any individuality identity or unique characteristics. They're all the same.
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So if I was to say, "All Asians are so hot". Thats racist?
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Yes it is. You are referring to billions of people as one homogenous hot mass based on their race. The statement disregards any individuality identity or unique characteristics. They're all the same.
No its not. All asians are so hot is prejudice not racism. Gina could leave the house now with her head held high.
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No its not. All asians are so hot is prejudice not racism. Gina could leave the house now with her head held high.
The comment objectifies and relegates every single last Asian (a race) on the planet by a single subjective sexualised characteristic. It's is racially predjuiced towards Asian people who widely vary, even racially.
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Why would you say all asians are all hot though?

Generalisation in general whether it's positive or negative is just stupid.

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Is it racist to vote to evict Gina?
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ANYTHING you do against a person of colour is racist.

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When she says "i'm not attracted to black people" it sounds like she doesn't WANT to be attracted to any black person, and that the minute she knows that someone is black, she immediately considers them unattractive.

It doesn't sound like she is open minded at all, it sounds like she has a REASON to find all black people unattractive.

I don't know what that reason is, i don't know where it comes from. But it is certainly racist to say that any black person, no matter who they are are, is automatically unattractive in her eyes, just based on being black.
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When she says "i'm not attracted to black people" it sounds like she doesn't WANT to be attracted to any black person, and that the minute she knows that someone is black, she immediately considers them unattractive.

It doesn't sound like she is open minded at all, it sounds like she has a REASON to find all black people unattractive.

I don't know what that reason is, i don't know where it comes from. But it is certainly racist to say that any black person, no matter who they are are, is automatically unattractive in her eyes, just based on being black.
The view you describe is rife on this board and posters feel perfectly justified to just throw it out there.
Being attracted or unattracted to a entire race is racist
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When she says "i'm not attracted to black people" it sounds like she doesn't WANT to be attracted to any black person, and that the minute she knows that someone is black, she immediately considers them unattractive.

It doesn't sound like she is open minded at all, it sounds like she has a REASON to find all black people unattractive.

I don't know what that reason is, i don't know where it comes from. But it is certainly racist to say that any black person, no matter who they are are, is automatically unattractive in her eyes, just based on being black.
No need to drive a bus now, you are doing a great job of rubbishing your own argument. Why don't you just come out and say its illegal to say you don't like someone, forgive me but I thought that fell under personal preference which the last time I looked, was a perfectly legal and not at all racist.

This argument you are pitching is about as believable as Rylan getting an award for looking like last years Derby winner.
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Why don't you just come out and say its illegal to say you don't like someone
Oh trust me - that's coming!

Give it another twenty or so years and the PC nannies will have their Thought Police on every corner.

It's EFFING terrifying actually.
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No need to drive a bus now, you are doing a great job of rubbishing your own argument. Why don't you just come out and say its illegal to say you don't like someone, forgive me but I thought that fell under personal preference which the last time I looked, was a perfectly legal and not at all racist.

This argument you are pitching is about as believable as Rylan getting an award for looking like last years Derby winner.
A personal preference based on ignorance is not immediately acceptable. The clarification that Jemima likes "darker" guys "but not black guys" reeks of an underlying idiocy which when probed further elicited the gem "you wouldn't like a white guy". This smacks of "stick to your own kind" stupidity. And to quote "I have black friends" does not permit stupid ideology. This is why I think Jemima is racist.
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A personal preference based on ignorance is not immediately acceptable. The clarification that Jemima likes "darker" guys "but not black guys" reeks of an underlying idiocy which when probed further elicited the gem "you wouldn't like a white guy". This smacks of "stick to your own kind" stupidity. And to quote "I have black friends" does not permit stupid ideology. This is why I think Jemima is racist.

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A personal preference based on ignorance is not immediately acceptable. The clarification that Jemima likes "darker" guys "but not black guys" reeks of an underlying idiocy which when probed further elicited the gem "you wouldn't like a white guy". This smacks of "stick to your own kind" stupidity. And to quote "I have black friends" does not permit stupid ideology. This is why I think Jemima is racist.
She's talking about what skin tone she usually finds herself dating man, not which 'race' she prefers. and even if she 'prefers' to date white guys exclusively, being a racist is the act of HATING a particular race, not whether you fancy them romantically, or not.

not usually dating or not finding a race attractive ≠ hate

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She's talking about what skin tone she usually finds herself dating man, not which 'race' she prefers. and even if she 'prefers' to date white guys exclusively, being a racist is the act of HATING a particular race, not whether you fancy them romantically, or not.

not usually dating or not finding a race attractive ≠ hate
Being racist is not the act of hating a race. Oxford English Dictionary states Definition of racism
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the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races:

Hence she is racist, as is the person who says that black people are fast or asians can do math. Your personal interpretation of a term does not invalidate its proper use by others. I do understand that you don't believe she hates black people, but I do believe she is prone to hurtful generalisations which she feels are permissable because she has "ethnic friends".

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A personal preference based on ignorance is not immediately acceptable. The clarification that Jemima likes "darker" guys "but not black guys" reeks of an underlying idiocy which when probed further elicited the gem "you wouldn't like a white guy". This smacks of "stick to your own kind" stupidity. And to quote "I have black friends" does not permit stupid ideology. This is why I think Jemima is racist.
Why is it the worse thing you can call something racist is "racist"?
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We all have our own personal preference to people we find attractive.... it was disgusting the 'race' card was played. This country takes the 'politically correct' card to the extreme.... if someone prefers blondes to brunettes does that make them racist?....get a life BB...punish the ones who try and play the card for their own gain. Jemima did nothing wrong...end of!!
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We all have our own personal preference to people we find attractive.... it was disgusting the 'race' card was played. This country takes the 'politically correct' card to the extreme.... if someone prefers blondes to brunettes does that make them racist?....get a life BB...punish the ones who try and play the card for their own gain. Jemima did nothing wrong...end of!!
Good post but I don't think you are going to get it by certain posters as they are never wrong and we are not allowed to have opinions.
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So if a black guy went on a blind date and was turned down because he is black...that would not be racist?
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I'm sorry but if someone's race determines how you feel about someone, then you must be a bit racist.
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Its a fine line I think..if you arent generally attracted to black people then of course its not racist. It is personal taste. It is no different to saying you dont find ginger hair attractive, or that you fancy skinny people rather than muscley ones.

If you would not date a black person just BECAUSE they were black, then you are racist.
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I'm sorry but if someone's race determines how you feel about someone, then you must be a bit racist.
If you think someone is a "bit racist" because of who they find sexually attractive then you need to get out more.
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