[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Jords

I agree with Vicky on this one in the poll thread about whether Jemima should have been warned or not. Jemima was backed into a corner and was trying to argue that she isnt racist (which must be really nasty to be accused of) and it just didnt come out well.

I get why they warned her, but I dont agree with it. I would have been more satisfied however if Gina was also warned, she was accusing Jem of something that could really blow out horribly on exiting the house.

This 100%. It's such a damaging accusation.

[Jake.]

She didn't really lol, she was talking about taste and what her preference generally is.. her comment to Gina was a bit ignorant and unneeded but it's all about context

[Withano]

Originally Posted by JH95

her comment to Gina was a bit ignorant and unneeded but it's all about context

If they ignored it how long do you think it would take for the hags and journalists to take it out of context and put Big Brother in the newspaper claiming another race row.

They're just saving their back against the temperamental, pessimistic fans who complain at every opportunity.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Withano

If they ignored it how long do you think it would take for the hags and journalists to take it out of context and put Big Brother in the newspaper claiming another race row.

They're just saving their back against the temperamental, pessimistic fans who complain at every opportunity.

Oh no I agree with you and get why they had to give her a warning, I'm just saying that given the context they shouldn't have had to but yeah, there would be a right fuss

[armand.kay]

She said she wouldn't date a black person.. So no matter what their personality is she wouldn't go there because they are black?
Me I wasn't offended but I didn't feel alright about the comment. It just felt like she was saying black people are not good enough for her, although I don't think I was as offended as gina it did still hit a nerve when she said it.
If somebody's skin colour effects how you treat them what are you? (And to make it worse she assumed gina wouldn't go out with a white guy...)

Jemima was going around talking about how gina is selfish, and stuck up and spoilt when she had not even had a conversation with her.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

She said she wouldn't date a black person.. So no matter what their personality is she wouldn't go there because they are black?
Me I wasn't offended but I didn't feel alright about the comment. It just felt like she was saying black people are not good enough for her, although I don't think I was as offended as gina it did still hit a nerve when she said it.
If somebody's skin colour effects how you treat them what are you? (And to make it worse she assumed gina wouldn't go out with a white guy...)

Jemima was going around talking about how gina is selfish, and stuck up and spoilt when she had not even had a conversation with her.

I don't like agreeing with Gina fans because their taste in humans is abysmal, but I agree with this

[Jords]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

She said she wouldn't date a black person.. So no matter what their personality is she wouldn't go there because they are black?
Me I wasn't offended but I didn't feel alright about the comment. It just felt like she was saying black people are not good enough for her, although I don't think I was as offended as gina it did still hit a nerve when she said it.
If somebody's skin colour effects how you treat them what are you? (And to make it worse she assumed gina wouldn't go out with a white guy...)

Jemima was going around talking about how gina is selfish, and stuck up and spoilt when she had not even had a conversation with her.

You cant help romantic/sexual attraction. Were not talking about friendships here! She never said she would treat them differently.

Edit: Im sorry you felt offended btw but there really is no need

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jords

You cant help romantic/sexual attraction. Were not talking about friendships here! She never said she would treat them differently.

Edit: Im sorry you felt offended btw but there really is no ne
ed

I gues I will never understand this I don't really have a type expecially race wise. What she said does imply that if sam was black would here relationship with him be the same?

Dw I wasn't really that offended it just hit a nerve and I would of probably forgotten about it had it not caused all that mess....
I was so shocked when I saw how much darker her face was without make up that with the blond weave and the blue contacts gives me the idea Gina isn't very confident about her colour which it why she was so defencive.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I gues I will never understand this I don't really have a type expecially race wise. She it imply it in a way like if sam was black would here relationship with him be the same?

Dw I wasn't really that offended it just hit a nerve and I would of probably forgotten about it had it not caused all that mess....
I was so shocked when I saw how much darker her face was without make up that with the blond weave and the blue contacts gives me the idea Gina isn't very confident about her colour which it why she was so defencive.

She did say Daley was good-looking but was attached but idk

I have a black mate who was my flatmate this year and he has never slept with a white girl and doesnt think hed be able to date one (for whatever reason), I never took offense though because he likes white people just wouldnt date a white girl. It really is just personal taste

But maybe you have a point there, I never noticed and if that is the case I would then feel sorry for Gina and understand it.

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

She said she wouldn't date a black person.. So no matter what their personality is she wouldn't go there because they are black?

After that though she said she meant that they just don't attract her. It's never the type of guy she's ever gone for. Just like we all have preferences on relationships. Particular things turn us on/off.

You've taken that a bit out of context.

[Jake.]

Really don't think she was saying that black people are not good enough for her, she was just talking about her preference in men. If she had said 'I don't usually go for white men', would there have been a fuss? Of course not. She doesn't treat people of a different skin colour any differently and no evidence has been shown of this, so for Gina to be going around shouting such nasty claims just wasn't fair.

[Withano]

You can help making assumptions that black girls wouldn't date white guys because they are white

This is the bottom line and Big Brother felt this among other things deserved a warning.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Withano

You can help making assumptions that black girls wouldn't date white guys because they are white

This is the bottom line and Big Brother felt this among other things deserved a warning.

I honestly think that this was her attempt of trying to get out of the corner she was backed into. She didn't claim 'You wouldn't find any white people attractive'

[PInternet]

It was plain racist. She said she wouldn't date a black guy but she might go for mixed race. Regardless of attractiveness, personality, intelligence, etc. she lumped all Black and later Chinese guys into the same category of people she wouldn't date. She meant that she wouldn't date them because of their race and nothing else.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by PInternet

It was plain racist. She said she wouldn't date a black guy but she might go for mixed race. Regardless of attractiveness, personality, intelligence, etc. she lumped all Black and later Chinese guys into the same category of people she wouldn't date. She meant that she wouldn't date them because of their race and nothing else.

That's not what she said. She was speaking in regards to what features turn her on sexually. She was not saying she found black people ugly. She was talking about a type of man, his look that turns her on.

[Maneki-neko]

Because millions of people were not enslaved at one time for being old.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Maneki-neko

Because millions of people were not enslaved at one time for being old.

oh jesus

[letmein]

Let's face it, she was talking about the people she would ****, not people she would or wouldn't be friends with.

[PInternet]

She could have easily said "I like dark men like Mediterranean men" and left it at that.
She CLARIFIED that she wouldn't date a black guy for seemingly no reason other than to make sure everybody watching knew that she was 'better than that'.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by PInternet

She could have easily said "I like dark men like Mediterranean men" and left it at that.
She CLARIFIED that she wouldn't date a black guy for seemingly no reason other than to make sure everybody watching knew that she was 'better than that'.

Could you possibly be a little more wildly speculative?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jords

I tweeted this and was waiting for somebody to pick this up on TiBB because Ive made quite a few threads tonight but nobody has so I shall

Gina several times remarked on Jemima's age and how she should 'behave' tonight, and BB allowed this to slide by without warning (or at least showing a warning) of this to Gina. Or if they dont want to use the term 'ageist' at least give her a verbal spanking for being offensive if they must warn Jemima over ridiculous things.

Dont you think? BB acted very unfairly.

..ageism isn't a criminal offence though Jords...I do think there was some manipulation of the situation by Gina but Jemima still said it and imo what she said was a racist remark because people should see people and not colour, so it was wrong to assume Gina wouldn't be attracted to 'white guys'..why wouldn't she...?...the whole thing is quite controversial because of the circumstances and how Gina pushed her but I don't think that BB had any choice but to give her that warning....

[MatthewS]

I thought Gina was Asian until tonights ep.....no lie.

[joeysteele]

This thread is about Gina being ageist and it's true it is not a crime to to be ageist,sadly.
Being racist also has to be proved though, Jemima made a comment not dismissing black people as friends,housemates,work colleagues or anywhere social in general just that her preference was not be in a romantic relationship with them.
It is,to me wrong to deem that preference as any kind of racist act.

I said ageism isn't a criminal act in agreement with Ammi's original statement as to that.
However, it should be, at the very least,inappropriate to be ageist against a fellow housemate.
You could get into a lot of bother if you highlighted age against someone in a workplace so I see this as double standards by BB.

[Livia]

I wouldn't date another woman... so therefore, clearly, I'm homophobic.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

I wouldn't date another woman... so therefore, clearly, I'm homophobic.

Excellent point Livia.