[Natalie.]

I feel sorry for people who want Sam to win

[lippyzippy]

why do you lot hate decent honest sincere normal people like sam? you were the same with andrea Begley winning the voice? the majority here hated her and that she won....do you hate the disabled or what? Begley had the best voice and sam has been the best housemate with dexter...nice guys don't come last they come first ...get over it....

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

People that DO support Peter (a self-aggrandizing idiot), Alec (a legit sociopath), and Tom (a gross homophobic pig) ought to be trolling, and that has nothing to do with people like Rachel Rice (and plenty of people do), whose journey is actually nothing like Sam's and who had lulzy random ^_^ moments and slayed all of her jealous and gross oppressors in epic fashion, completing one of the most epic journeys in all of reality TV.

As for your second post, I've never actually prided myself as a champion of morals (because I'm not) and root for people because they're nice and have justifiable behavior. But certainly their comes a point where morals do come into play no matter how many "talking points" they contribute, it's all about quality, not quantity. Just in the same way that most people won't support Jade for creating the show's biggest talking point when it's a worldwide racism row, I'm not going to support someone like Aaron whose "talking points" (BB12 was **** anyway because of these "talking points" but in some warped world Aaron's the best HM ever despite the worst series being ABOUT him) included a pre-constructed narrative in which he falsely painted himself as "good overcoming evil" when he would put people on ridiculous speaking bans, throw temper tantrums when things didn't go in his way, and just in general be a sleazeball ("Faye, I'm sorry that I made out with Maisy... I mean, I meant to make out with you," sabotaging the shopping budget to spite Jay but refuse to speak to anyone when the budget was sabotaged to spite him, and acting like he's *above it all* and he doesn't relate to these young simpletons in the house when he was born in 19****ing80.) I have standards for entertainment that Aaron and other Forum Favourites Grace, Caroline, Chris (this one will never not baffle me), Arron, etc. don't meet, and Gina does.

Those 3 words sum this whole 'debate' up. Some people, like Gina have no class. As long as they're being entertained, they don't care. You have the people who would stand by and film a woman getting her head kicked in by a lunatic so that they could post it on here, and then you have the people who would actually help her.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Morrissey

I feel sorry for people who want Sam to win

Your pity is not wanted or justified. Thanks for the sentiment though. You carry on.

[billy123]

Some people just dont like childish wankers in the housewhich isnt a bad thing.
Yet another stupid thread criticising fans of housemates.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by CynicalHermit

Those 3 words sum this whole 'debate' up. Some people, like Gina have no class. As long as they're being entertained, they don't care. You have the people who would stand by and film a woman getting her head kicked in by a lunatic so that they could post it on here, and then you have the people who would actually help her.

..that's very insulting CH, people's reasons for liking a HM..(i.e. entertainment..) are just as valid as liking someone because you perceive them to be 'nice' and liking a HM for entertainment and that will mean bitchiness as well is no indication that they would enjoy seeing someone suffer in real life,..it doesn't make someone a bad person because they enjoy arguments etc on a game show...and BB encourage that anyway...

..for me, I want to see someone nice win but I also want some balance of personality as well, they also have to entertain..it is quite rare to get that sort of housemate but I've spent the majority of time forgetting Sam was even there, so I'm not sure I personally consider him a 'worthy winner' as such..having said that, I have struggled with having an out and out favourite this year so I wouldn't be that disappointed if he did win either..I think the only person I really don't want to win is Sophie...

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's very insulting CH, people's reasons for liking a HM..(i.e. entertainment..) are just as valid as liking someone because you perceive them to be 'nice' and liking a HM for entertainment and that will mean bitchiness as well is no indication that they would enjoy seeing someone suffer in real life,..it doesn't make someone a bad person because they enjoy arguments etc on a game show...and BB encourage that anyway...

..for me, I want to see someone nice win but I also want some balance of personality as well, they also have to entertain..it is quite rare to get that sort of housemate but I've spent the majority of time forgetting Sam was even there, so I'm not sure I personally consider him a 'worthy winner' as such..having said that, I have struggled with having an out and out favourite this year so I wouldn't be that disappointed if he did win either..I think the only person I really don't want to win is Sophie...

Ok let me sugar coat it a bit for you. Some people won't think twice about creating threads laying into somebody because they don't have the perfect body, or because their deaf etc. won't think twice about dissecting them as a person for these reasons.

Other people wouldn't dream of it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

And I personally can't wait for the forum meltdown.

I'm going to spend every last penny on him if Gina isn't in the final! I am going to make sure he wins.

I feel you will be disappointed. Alot of people expect Sam to win, so it won't come as a huge surprise. Your longed for meltdown would only happen if the Twins or Charlie or even Dexter won, as nobody expects that.

Think Ulrika Johnson winning CBB..now that was meltdown.

[Black Dagger]

That was ****ing hilarious... once Coolio got robbed I wanted her to win.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

That was ****ing hilarious... once Coolio got robbed I wanted her to win.

I have to say my chin hit the floor that night.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I feel you will be disappointed. Alot of people expect Sam to win, so it won't come as a huge surprise. Your longed for meltdown would only happen if the Twins or Charlie or even Dexter won, as nobody expects that.

Think Ulrika Johnson winning CBB..now that was meltdown.

There will be a meltdown BECAUSE Sam wins. It will be hilarious.

[Vanessa]

[karezza]

Sam won't win. Most BB fans are revolted by the thought of Sam winning.

[lippyzippy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that's very insulting CH, people's reasons for liking a HM..(i.e. entertainment..) are just as valid as liking someone because you perceive them to be 'nice' and liking a HM for entertainment and that will mean bitchiness as well is no indication that they would enjoy seeing someone suffer in real life,..it doesn't make someone a bad person because they enjoy arguments etc on a game show...and BB encourage that anyway...

..for me, I want to see someone nice win but I also want some balance of personality as well, they also have to entertain..it is quite rare to get that sort of housemate but I've spent the majority of time forgetting Sam was even there, so I'm not sure I personally consider him a 'worthy winner' as such..having said that, I have struggled with having an out and out favourite this year so I wouldn't be that disappointed if he did win either..I think the only person I really don't want to win is Sophie...

cynical hermit is right
there is an undercurrent of hatred towards the disabled in our society and in this site imo
no one ever believes they achieve things on merit and many cruel things are said, even moreso in real life
the abuse of andrea Begley was one example, sam has also been wildly abused here too

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

cynical hermit is right
there is an undercurrent of hatred towards the disabled in our society and in this site imo
no one ever believes they achieve things on merit and many cruel things are said, even moreso in real life
the abuse of andrea Begley was one example, sam has also been wildly abused here too

From where I am standing none of the HMs have escaped abuse Can you give examples of the wild abuse of Sam??

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

cynical hermit is right
there is an undercurrent of hatred towards the disabled in our society and in this site imo
no one ever believes they achieve things on merit and many cruel things are said, even moreso in real life
the abuse of andrea Begley was one example, sam has also been wildly abused here too

I'm always right, stick with me kid

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Morrissey

I feel sorry for people who want Sam to win

me too

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by smeagol

me too

Awwwww, you are all heart.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by smeagol

me too

me three.