[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What I think..is that Sam thought there might be a twist (as they all thought) so went for 100k which would mean he was staying if it was actually the lowest amount being kicked out..BUT if there happened to be a twist (like they thought) and it was the highest going..he wouldnt lose anything and would get his 100k 6 days early

I don't know why you think this huge thought process went through all their minds and I don't know why you're saying Sam is bad and Dexter is good when Dexter done the opposite.

By your logic, if they were unsure if there was or wasn't a twist you should hate Dexter and Sam equally.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Twins were clearly after the money as they said as much. Just they werent clever enough to think about it properly.

You're clearly oblivious to what happened. The twins and Dexter had the same logic yet you only like one of the two for what they both did.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I believe that they ALL go in there for the prize.

I agree.

The difference with Sam is, he's standing on a very moral self righteous platform and meant to be there (so he says) over a serious subject.

So he shouldn't be sly about things (see above), he should be straight as a dye.

If he's not really there to raise awareness about deafness and just in it for the money then I find that slightly repugnant.

I've learn absolutely nothing about deaf people since he's been in there.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

What I think..is that Sam thought there might be a twist (as they all thought) so went for 100k which would mean he was staying if it was actually the lowest amount being kicked out..BUT if there happened to be a twist (like they thought) and it was the highest going..he wouldnt lose anything and would get his 100k 6 days early

I dont think any of the are greedy, no matter why they chose what they did. I think most people in their shoes would take as much money as possible. Well, maybe it is greed..but its what the majority would do...get as much as possible. Even if it was 50k on offer, I would think most would take it, rather than gambling a 1/6 chance of getting 100k instead. I believe that they ALL go in there for the prize. Winning is a massive bonus obviously, but outright offer any of them (especially the week before the final) the 100k and they would walk.

I think Dexter chose 88k as he thought it was a decent amount to leave with if they were telling the truth, and low enough to be in with a chance if they werent..so yes, tactical..as the tweet said when he made his choice. No idea about Charlie, nor do I care as she just flipflops about and I have given up trying to understand her. Twins were clearly after the money as they said as much. Just they werent clever enough to think about it properly.

I think you misunderstand.

In a post about Sam you said:

Sam was the cleverest of all (or luckiest to go first)

Take the 100k and if they are telling the truth, you are in the final. If they are lying, you walk with the whole prize fund.

In a post about Dexter you said:

Do you believe though, thta any housemate thought they would seriously be given 88% of the prize fund? Leaving the winner with 12k?

In Dexters case, you say no HM would seriously think they would be given 88k yet in Sam's case you contradict that and say he is clever and thought he could walk with 100k.


See what I mean?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Do you believe though, thta any housemate thought they would seriously be given 88% of the prize fund? Leaving the winner with 12k?

No I don't, however that wasn't the issue on this thread, this thread is on about Sam's greed at choosing the 100k.

You said though those defending Sam would get at Dexter had he done it, I am one of those defending Sam and I certainly would not have condemned Dexter for choosing the 100k either had he done so.
For me, that would have proved he, just like Sam, didn't want to go either.

[Patricia4]

So what if he wins good luck to him I wouldnt want to be deaf.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Aimee

Why is anybody saying he took it to be greedy?

BB told them whoever chose the lowest would leave the house. He had NO intention of leaving the house so he picked as high as he could, to stay.

It's very very simple.

He was NOT being greedy; he was not after money, we wanted to stay.

Please everyone who thinks and says this, do look at it logically, pleeeease!

The one who picked least was being asked to leave, so he picked HIGH!

I really hope you get it.

Everyone knows that really. They have tied themselves in knots trying to find a way to make Sam look greedy, but they are only succeeding in making themselves look silly.
Sam took the 100k because he wanted to stay. If he thought there may be another twist he would have known that BB wasn't going to let anyone walk off with the whole of the prize money. Not a chance! Any of them would have figured that out, yet many here don't seem to grasp that.
Well they do, really. They just pretend they don't because it suits them. Par for the course!

[Aimee]

Originally Posted by jet

Everyone knows that really. They have tied themselves in knots trying to find a way to make Sam look greedy, but they are only succeeding in making themselves look silly.
Sam took the 100k because he wanted to stay. If he thought there may be another twist he would have known that BB wasn't going to let anyone walk off with the whole of the prize money. Not a chance! Any of them would have figured that out, yet many here don't seem to grasp that.
Well they do, really. They just pretend they don't because it suits them. Par for the course!

I follow. That's a shame.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Aimee

Why is anybody saying he took it to be greedy?

BB told them whoever chose the lowest would leave the house. He had NO intention of leaving the house so he picked as high as he could, to stay.

It's very very simple.

He was NOT being greedy; he was not after money, we wanted to stay.

Please everyone who thinks and says this, do look at it logically, pleeeease!

The one who picked least was being asked to leave, so he picked HIGH!

I really hope you get it.

Some of us see that ,but I wouldn't bother explaining,too many closed minds to see the real facts

[Jemal]

If Sam was the one in dexter shoes, i would go off him with a blink of an eye.
Im not biased like most people on here. I say what I think. And if Sam done what dexter did he would be a greedy *****. but he didnt did he? If dexter done what Sam done i wouldnt say anything bad about dexter apart from that hes not a greedy *****.
I actualy mean what I just said^
Most people will back their housemate, even if they put Someone into a coma. Its comedy gold.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

If Sam was the one in dexter shoes, i would go off him with a blink of an eye.
Im not biased like most people on here. I say what I think. And if Sam done what dexter did he would be a greedy *****. but he didnt did he? If dexter done what Sam done i wouldnt say anything bad about dexter apart from that hes not a greedy *****.
I actualy mean what I just said^
Most people will back their housemate, even if they put Someone into a coma. Its comedy gold.

I agree with you absolutely. I have no fav left in the final but the 2 I liked best that are left were Sam and Dexter with Dexter slightly ahead. I'd have been happy enough if either won. Not any more. All I have left is Sam now.

[the_answers]

Sure he wanted to stay. (eventually)

Yet it took him an age to decide and pick the biggest number.

Should have been IN, OUT in 30 secs flat.

That's the point...

If you SAY you don't care about the money you don't ponder for ages with a strained look on your face like it's a tough decision.

[Emmyasdfghjkl]

at the end of the day, they are all in there to get the money, good on him.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Emmyasdfghjkl

at the end of the day, they are all in there to get the money, good on him.

He said he didn't though.

I can just about take the sympathy card (if used sparingly).
But I don't want the winner to play the game poorly
And especially not on an "oh so moral" platform.

[Winkie Expand]

It is hilarious watching people try to twist what Sam did last night into greed.

He was told the person with the lowest amount of money would leave and took the highest possible amount so he would stay in the house knowing full well that a majority of the money could have gone with whoever chose the lowest. That isn't greed.

A reminder: Trying to twist Sam's motives here due to favouring a different, crooked horse in this race matters not. This forum represents just a tiny group of Big Brother fans and the public at large saw the same footage we all did... including the emphasis on Sam's not wanting to leave.

[Winkie Expand]

Oh, and of course producers managed a way to keep their fakes/actors, Gina and Dexter both cleared to the final.

[brianna_jones]

IF the task was fair and not set up to keep Dex in the game, each person should have had a full wall of values to choose from.

[Winkie Expand]

Originally Posted by brianna_jones

IF the task was fair and not set up to keep Dex in the game, each person should have had a full wall of values to choose from.

Precisely.

This has all been carefully choreographed and the order they sent them in is very telling. They didn't dare open the lines earlier in the week (or address Sophie cheating during Face To Face nominations) because if they had Dexter would be the one evicted 24 hours from now.

They have to keep their actors in.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by brianna_jones

IF the task was fair and not set up to keep Dex in the game, each person should have had a full wall of values to choose from.

This I definitely agree with. This is how it should have happened..though they were probably worried that everyone would chose the same value and the twist would have been as useless as the final pass one was I dont see how the different values mean it was set up to keep Dexter in the game though?

Originally Posted by Winkie Expand

Precisely.

This has all been carefully choreographed and the order they sent them in is very telling. They didn't dare open the lines earlier in the week (or address Sophie cheating during Face To Face nominations) because if they had Dexter would be the one evicted 24 hours from now.

They have to keep their actors in.

Was between the twins and Charlie. Dexter wasn't going anywhere anyway. If anything, this latest twist has thrown a lifeline to the twins at the expense of Sophie.

[Johnnyuk123]

If Sam was speaking the truth about not being on the show for the money it would have taken just a few seconds to pick the Ł100,000 card up and place it in the case, but HE didn't. This is why people now questions his morals that he keeps harping on about to anyone who will listen.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

If Sam was speaking the truth about not being on the show for the money it would have taken just a few seconds to pick the Ł100,000 card up and place it in the case, but HE didn't. This is why people now questions his morals that he keeps harping on about to anyone who will listen.

Even if you have just gone on for the experience and stuff though (which I dont believe of any of them, but lets assume its the case) when being faced with a potential instant 100k..its gotta be tempting. Especially as a stockroom assistant, who is likely on minimum wage. Thats like..8 years wages or something

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Even if you have just gone on for the experience and stuff though (which I dont believe of any of them, but lets assume its the case) when being faced with a potential instant 100k..its gotta be tempting. Especially as a stockroom assistant, who is likely on minimum wage. Thats like..8 years wages or something

Exactly, anyone who thinks that Sam is in that house but NOT for the money needs to take their blinkers off. They are ALL in there for the money including Sam. I know some Sam fans find it hard to believe that their housemate even has a gameplan, but he does, he also wants to win the money as any housemate on this game show would.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Even if you have just gone on for the experience and stuff though (which I dont believe of any of them, but lets assume its the case) when being faced with a potential instant 100k..its gotta be tempting. Especially as a stockroom assistant, who is likely on minimum wage. Thats like..8 years wages or something

He's a Stockroom assistant?...thought he didn't work.....Wonder if anyone's noticed he's not been coming to work yet...?

[honeydew]

You seriously saying they would give Sam 100k OMG And say you are staying..??

DEXTER HAD THE BRAINS TO WORK IT OUT..

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Lex

He's a Stockroom assistant?...thought he didn't work.....Wonder if anyone's noticed he's not been coming to work yet...?

I think he is? I might be getting him mixed up with the twins but I am sure he said not long ago about them having career prospects and that while he was too old? Im sure he mentioned his job in that convo