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Old 19-08-2013, 12:50 PM #26
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(and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
So you're saying Dex should have known the twins wanted to take the money and go ?
Case closed my arse !
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Like you said yourself before jet

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Had he (and everyone) gone highest possible, Charlie would have gone !
So what is he meant to do then ?
Answer me that.

You're saying he should have known the twins would pick lower than highest possible ?
Bull**** !

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lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe. he didnt. not that hard to understand he was trying to be sly about it. well he got his 2nd wish at least so thats done.
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So you're saying Dex should have known the twins wanted to take the money and go ?
Case closed my arse !
Where did I say that? I said that Joe had been going on about wanting to go home that week, (which all the HM's heard). I don't for one second think Dexter would have been thinking of anyone but himself.

Anyway, I'm going to the gym now, so good luck everyone for tonight! We'll just have to accept the public's winner, whoever it may be. Enjoy the show!
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So what is he meant to do then ?
Answer me that.

You're saying he should have known the twins would pick lower than highest possible ?
Bull**** !
I don't get what you mean. He seen there were 2 numbers higher than 96k on the board, no matter who had picked what. If you still can't work it out, I despair. I'm away. Bye!
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Someone offers you the chance to earn tens of thousands of pounds for 30 seconds walk, and you need to do is leave a game show?

This forum must be full of homeless people, with the complete lack of motivation to earn money.

What a bastard Dexter is. Anything over 50k was never going to be allowed to stand, and certainly a prize fund of 12k.

If Dexter seriously though 88k would give him a chance of walking away with it, then he's stupid.
 
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Running away are you jet ?

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When Dexter came in there were at least 2 amounts higher than the twins still on the board. He had a choice of 99k and 98,225 that we know of. If he had picked the higher number, and Charlie had picked the lower, or vice versa, the twins would have been the lowest (and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
Q, Do you think Dex should have known the twins wouldn't pick the highest ?

Yes or no.

Cos that's what "and Joe desperately wanted to go that week." seems to imply.

Anyway you go and I'll made the point again without your confused theories.

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If Dexter really is a gambler (who knows what he says is truth any more) he chose an amount most likely to get him big returns. If another housemate chose under 50k then he could win more by winning the show (a gambler always expects to win). If the other housemates wanted the cash they would most likely go for as high an amount as they could get away with presuming others had chosen the highest amounts possible to stay in the show - this is what the twins did. Dexter bid high enough for large returns but low enough to likely be under the others.

Nothing to do with knowing twists or lucky numbers but simple gambling odds. He wanted the cash (as did the twins).
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Point is, Dex assumed ALL the others would pick highest possible.

[Ok twins didn't but he picked a LOWER number anyway so makes no difference.]

So given he knew Charlie wanted to STAY, how could he have picked the highest possible ?

Charlie would have gone and he knew she didn't want that.

So there you go...

He did it for the woman he loved, not for himself.
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but low enough to likely be under the others.
Yeah, so they could all stay and not leave the BB house.

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The twins had 2 people to go after them and one of them was Dexter, who most of the HM's didn't trust. They had no way of knowing what either he or Charlie would pick.
When Dexter came in there were at least 2 amounts higher than the twins still on the board. He had a choice of 99k and 98,225 that we know of. If he had picked the higher number, and Charlie had picked the lower, or vice versa, the twins would have been the lowest (and Joe desperately wanted to go that week.)
Being so close to Charlie, it's almost certain he knew that Charlie wouldn't want to walk with the money and would pick one of the highest amounts. He picked an amount in the 80's, which no one else had done and would assure him of the lowest. Guilty as charged. Case closed.
I know all that, jeez, my point is why just pick on just Dexter, the twins had no idea what the two in after them would do but deliberately left two amounts higher than the one they took, coincidence?
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lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe. he didnt. not that hard to understand he was trying to be sly about it. well he got his 2nd wish at least so thats done.
Exactly, he was trying to be sly & got caught.
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I would have took a shot at £30K.

I think their stupid to pass up on grabbing some free money. Shouldnt be over £50K no fair on the winner. Well tbh, I dont like prize fund twists in general.
And that seems more in line with what Dexter said in the room. Common sense says most of them would do a little math, figure out their odds of winning vs the rest of the pack, then choose a number low enough that it won't have them hated on the outside (the 20-40k range).

I suspect that's exactly how it would've played out, too, if any 2 of the others were replaced with Sophie and Gina. Instead he had the twins who overstrategized, Sam who was so cocky he was making sure he was there to win whatever was left, and Charlie who is lucky she can think enough to dress herself each day.
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lol its obvious if he didnt really wanna leave like he claimed he would of picked 99k at least to play it safe.
That's assuming he was putting HIMSELF first though.
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Yeah, so they could all stay and not leave the BB house.
No, I know you're blinded by love for the man but he went for the money. I'm a good poker player and I'd have done exactly as he did if I was after the money, no hero act to keep everyone in going on here, just greed and there's nothing wrong with that in a gameshow, just a shame he couldn't man up and admit it. He would have had a lot more respect and support from people had he done so.
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So you're saying he should have gone highest possible putting himself before the wishes of others ?

Anyway I better dash myself, will come back later...

All I'll say is I was the same as you (and a poker player too) and was completely convinced myself he took the money.

I think it's just like he said "I took a risk"

Given what he said and did, I'll leave you to ponder what the risk(s) might have been.

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Nah I didn't expect them to.

I remember thinking 'I'd take 50k' when reading about the task.
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The twins wouldn't have lied about their decision it's not in there nature.

There was only 1 amount higher than the 96k the twins took therefore it was obvious that someone would pick higher or Dexter and/or Charlie would pick lower.

Dexter shouldn't have given so many pathetic lies as to why he chose 88k and not the highest amount of 99k. If he'd owned up and said "**** yeah, I wanted to walk out with 88k" he would've won a lot more support. But as usual devious Dexter showed his true colours and attempted to lie his way out.

He gave different reasons as to why he chose a lower amount that what was available on the board and these ranged from he didn't see the 99k to thinking there was a twist to thought someone would be selfless and take the £1 (even though it was only Charlie after him and the £1 was staring right in the face) and then outside later told Gina he was undecided between the 44k and the 88k. She was the one that said 8 is your lucky number so it makes sense to take that amount not Dexter. Dexter agreed and probably kicked himself that he hadn't thought of that himself.

It was said in week 1: "All he talks about his himself" and "He's only in it for the money" and it was proven 100% in the last week that both of those accusations were absolutely correct and completely spot on!
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If I thought his feelings were real for Charlie I'd be open to there being other reasons for him taking that amount, but I haven't "felt" anything behind the words he's said to her (extending my dislike for him as I think he's playing a game with someone's emotions). I guess we'll never know for sure but I personally think he's looking at this whole thing financially and making as much from it as possible at anyone's expense from various things he's said throughout the series - he'd probably marry Charlie for an OK magazine payout!

Anyway, enjoy your day! I'm going to carry on with my Holiday in New York now the lady has woken up!
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To be fair all the HM are seasoned BB game players and know most if not all of the previous BB prize fund twists. They would surely know that BB would not allow any HM to walk away with nearly all the prize fund. So knowing that if all HM picked amounts very high (in order to stay in the BB House) the last one to pick would in theory be picking the highest amount of the amounts left, but that would still be in the 90k+ range.

So that would only leave a prize fund of less than 10K...??? No way would BB let that happen as they would have to at least offer a similar amount to the eventual winner.

No the reality is no one was going to pick low and as such the bulk of the prize money would had to have been given way. This was never going to happen and the HM must have surely known this and assumed there was another twist at the end.

Someone could have picked 50K in the hope that BB would honour the task and let them leave but as we know they all picked high so this twist was never going to be honoured.

I think Dexter perhaps thought he would try and hedge his bets by picking low but not too low in case shock of shocks BB did honour the task. But I still think this task was too suspicious and the HM probably knew this and picked high to stay in the show.
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