[Bridget51]

Glad for this post. Love Charlotte and she will win. All of the above comments are interesting and each to their own views. Unfortunately none of the above sways me one bit. Will still be voting for her to win. Also loving Abz and Lauren - would love top three to be-:

Charlotte - 1st and winner of summer CBB 2013
Abz - runner up
Lauren 3rd

Love to all the Charlotte haters x

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Bridget51

Love to all the Charlotte haters x

You can brand that word around all you want but the person you're voting for isn't exactly a role model for tolerance or seeing the best in others herself.

As you've given no reasons why she should win I'll have to assume you love bad language and farting.

Kiss kiss.

[Lee.]

I can't stand her! There's something very wrong if she wins this!

[HBB1508]

I can't stand the the girl she needs all the attention on her and if it's not she feels the need to do something stupid to get it. She is so self absorbed and can't take any criticism it's pathetic and I'm not even going to start on the bodily functions............

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I can't stand the the girl she needs all the attention on her and if it's not she feels the need to do something stupid to get it. She is so self absorbed and can't take any criticism it's pathetic and I'm not even going to start on the bodily functions............

I agree! She's just a silly wee, attention seeking girl.

[Northern Monkey]

I think she maybe just feels threatened that abz could win over her.I bet abz has partied harder than she ever will in the past.She just sees him for how he is now.She'll more than likely end up pregnant and fade into obscurity soon enough,She has no talent.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's hateful, judgemental people with hateful attitudes like the ones displayed in this thread that are the problem.

I do actually see your point but think "hate" is a very strong word to label people with.

Just personally I wouldn't have used the word to start the thread.

On the other hand it's a phrase you hear in the real world.

If I say I hate melons I'm not on a hateful mission against Melons, I just don't like them at all.

My point is it's very easy to choose to take things at face value and overreact to them.

Perhaps it's something to bear in mind when judging Charlotte.

What worries me is whether she really means what she says.

For me, if it's a joke then you can just about put up with it.
If it's her real personality then it's bordering on disagraceful and a step too far IMO.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The sooner you realise that, and stop being so bloody toxic, the better.

For me it does indeed boil down to dislike.
Charlotte herself shows a lot of those characteristics does she not ?

If you like her because she's entertaining etc then fair enough.
But let's not pretend the criticism is somehow grossly unfair or she isn't at least partly responsible for any potential outcry that might ensue.

For me, the fact she's young is no real excuse.
I would be very suprised if she hadn't at least considered if she's setting a very bad example indeed.
For now I will assume she cares about the money and nothing else.

Sure you can argue celebrities aren't there to be role models.
But while it's a matter of opinion you can also argue there are some lines people shouldn't or won't cross out of principle.

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by the truth

Who the hell does she think she is?

she wants abz booted because he makes her feel uncomfortable?
the man leaves everyone alone , disturbs no one , respects everyone, isn't loud, isn't abusive, he chats when people chat to him, he hasn't argued, hasn't shouted , no attention seeking either, his words are often kind and wise....he hasn't been greedy either....hes given it 100% on every task too

the way the uber selfish attention seeking loudbouth bore charlotte views the world is everyone is there for her personal amusement and gratification....if they don't belch burp scream shag and fall over drunk screaming nonsense till 5 am then she thinks theyre weird and they make her uncomfortable

she is vile and very very sly. see how she spoke TO carol when carol was supposedly evicted, everything about charlotte is fake and contrived. why we reward this loud mouthed bore Ive no idea. pathetic creature

Charlotte is an attention seeker who is acting out her normal TV role in the house, she's a total conn in my eyes. I know the 16 year old fat chavs will love her and see her as a role model which says much about kids today doesn't it.

[Kazelle]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Charlotte is an attention seeker who is acting out her normal TV role in the house, she's a total conn in my eyes. I know the 16 year old fat chavs will love her and see her as a role model which says much about kids today doesn't it.

Agree with this entirely. Her trying to be funny in the diary room is so transparent it's cringeworthy. You can almost see in her eyes, her trying to think up her next stupid remark.

[CaudleHalbard]

Charlotte gives the chavs an ego boost.

Most of the time they realise people regard them a scum, but seeing someone who purports to be one of their own on the telly and thus "famous" vindicates - for them - their own lifestyle and behaviour.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Charlotte gives the chavs an ego boost.

Most of the time they realise people regard them a scum, but seeing someone who purports to be one of their own on the telly and thus "famous" vindicates - for them - their own lifestyle and behaviour.

That very observant and spot on !

[Kizzy]

Spit bile?... The woman is 23 not 17, she is so distressed as she is co conflicted within herself, she knows how she behaves isn't socially acceptable and screaming 'I'm bein me'! isn't going to make it any more so.
It might be her but to function as an adult she has to change, that's just a fact.

[mr rochester]

It is not surprising that people react to base traits in a strong way. Maybe Vicky did have a point when she was asking what type of a role model Charlotte was for young women. I happen to agree with what she said. The difficulty here is that Charlotte was given a part in Geordie Shore for precisely the 'bodily functions' part of her personality and it seems she genuinely thinks that because she is actively encouraged to be like this for one programme that it's OK to be like this on any programme. I like quite a lot of Charlotte's personality when she moves away from the baser side of her nature. I have seen glimmers of maturity and kindness in her and at times she has been far nicer than Carol and Louie for instance. I think CBB might go a long way into changing her for the better.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by mr rochester

It is not surprising that people react to base traits in a strong way. Maybe Vicky did have a point when she was asking what type of a role model Charlotte was for young women. I happen to agree with what she said. The difficulty here is that Charlotte was given a part in Geordie Shore for precisely the 'bodily functions' part of her personality and it seems she genuinely thinks that because she is actively encouraged to be like this for one programme that it's OK to be like this on any programme. I like quite a lot of Charlotte's personality when she moves away from the baser side of her nature. I have seen glimmers of maturity and kindness in her and at times she has been far nicer than Carol and Louie for instance. I think CBB might go a long way into changing her for the better.

I wish no ill will on her or anyone. I hope she goes away and finds a better way to live. I hope she grows and changes and I put a lot of the blame on the people who advise her and surround and the people who make trash like Geordie shore or the valleys. Its a total disgrace. we preach about kids growing up to soon, getting pregnant too young, getting diseases too, sometimes leading to abortions (were near the top of the worlds abortion league with 170,000 per year) we spend billions educating our children in schools and 10000s of hours at home to learn, grow , understand, to respect , to be good moral and decent.....then we throw it all away by promoting this type of behaviour. This does massive damage to the UK youth culture imo
I just don't ever want to see that kind of behaviour on my tv nor do I want to see millions of people influenced by her nor see her as a role model.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by the truth

Its a total disgrace. we preach about kids growing up to soon, getting pregnant too young, getting diseases too, sometimes leading to abortions (were near the top of the worlds abortion league with 170,000 per year) we spend billions educating our children in schools and 10000s of hours at home to learn, grow , understand, to respect , to be good moral and decent.....then we throw it all away by promoting this type of behaviour. This does massive damage to the UK youth culture imo

This also is so so true !

On the one hand people are blamed for being irresponsible but they're bombarded with so many arguably wrong moral messages on TV.

Ultimately it's down to the individual but there's a very good reason for education and not everything is learnt in the classroom.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by the truth

Its a total disgrace. we preach about kids growing up to soon, getting pregnant too young, getting diseases too, sometimes leading to abortions (were near the top of the worlds abortion league with 170,000 per year) we spend billions educating our children in schools and 10000s of hours at home to learn, grow , understand, to respect , to be good moral and decent.....then we throw it all away by promoting this type of behaviour.

You're crossing the line right there, imo. You do understand that sex in itself does not have to lead to diseases and abortions, and that this is something that can happen at other ages too? You're just engaging in slut shaming now, which is hardly neither good nor morally right. In no way does engaging in sex as an ADULT like Charlotte is exclude you from being good, moral and decent.

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

You're just engaging in slut shaming now, which is hardly neither good nor morally right.

Not really he's making an obvious point about society.

The fact it happens elsewhere or in other age groups is inconsequential to the main point IMO.

But since you mention it perhaps a bit of shame might actually help.

Now whether the majority of it should come from pin ups like Charlotte or other parties responsible is another question though.

TV has a lot to answer for IMO.

A lot of older people indeed have sex, are responsible and can see through it.

A lot of teeneagers can't and are impressionable and easily misled.

IMO you can't deny the culture is having an adverse effect on society as a whole.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by the_answers

Not really he's making an obvious point about society.

The fact it happens elsewhere or in other age groups is inconsequential to the main point IMO.

But since you mention it perhaps a bit of shame might actually help.

All I can do is shake my head at the point apparently going way over your head. If anyone should feel shame, it's people engaging in things like slut shaming. Talk about causing damage to society...

[Kizzy]

Like I said on the other thread she is a skip and a jump from wildlife on one!
We enjoy watching the apes picking their arses and sniffing it... Geordie Shore is no different to me, she's just a bald ape.

[rionablue]

Lets see who is left in there. Lauren who is transgender and is so insecure you would think she was about 15. She wants to be treated like a child. I mean Courtney SPOON FEEDING her that was the most cringeworthy thing I have ever seen. Then we have Courtney who has had so much surgery she doesn't look even remotely like what she looked like when she was younger, has married an aging actor and has been walking around the house in almost nothing on since the first night, a spoilt brat who refused to wear a fecking boiler suit. Then we have Mario ( ah the guy who looks like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth) who has been in all the rag mags and media having cheated and dumped girls one after the other. We have Abz who was in the band 5 and had a huge amount of success who has barely uttered ten lines in the past few weeks and has done absolutely nothing to merit winning. We have Carol who has had a face like a wasp for most of the time and been snippy, bitchy, jealous and bossy since the first night she came into the house not to mention her absolutely dreadful drunkenness. We have Louie the diva who has sashayed his way around the house while bitchily telling everyone he doesn't give a **** and has no bother in nominating anyone. And then we have Vicky who from the first night started to excersise her authority in the house regarding the drink etc. She has a good career in Corry street but who has heard anything of her since then? The very fact that she signed up for Celeb BB shows she is desperate to be back in the public eye. Charlotte is in a very popular show ( which I have never seen and wouldn't watch as its not my thing) has thousands of twitter followers and fans who for some reason love that show. is loud, brash, has very little hygiene, talks too openly about her sexual exploits but deep down I truly believe has a heart. Pick your winner people. I don't think any of them can afford to live in a glasshouse and throw stones at the others do you?

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by the truth

Who the hell does she think she is?

she wants abz booted because he makes her feel uncomfortable?
the man leaves everyone alone , disturbs no one , respects everyone, isn't loud, isn't abusive, he chats when people chat to him, he hasn't argued, hasn't shouted , no attention seeking either, his words are often kind and wise....he hasn't been greedy either....hes given it 100% on every task too

the way the uber selfish attention seeking loudbouth bore charlotte views the world is everyone is there for her personal amusement and gratification....if they don't belch burp scream shag and fall over drunk screaming nonsense till 5 am then she thinks theyre weird and they make her uncomfortable

she is vile and very very sly. see how she spoke TO carol when carol was supposedly evicted, everything about charlotte is fake and contrived. why we reward this loud mouthed bore Ive no idea. pathetic creature

You are right on all scores. Charlotte is nothing but Trailer Trash that's all. She is vindictive, nasty and downright common.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Robertocarlo

Charlotte is nothing but Trailer Trash that's all. She is vindictive, nasty and downright common.

Not sure about this. Charlotte is articulate with quite a good vocabulary. Not uneducated.

She strikes me as someone from a middle class family acting the chav. I.e. a fake! I don't watch Geordie Shore, so quite happy to know if I've got this wrong.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Not sure about this. Charlotte is articulate with quite a good vocabulary. Not uneducated.

She strikes me as someone from a middle class family acting the chav. I.e. a fake! I don't watch Geordie Shore, so quite happy to know if I've got this wrong.

You're right and wrong - all of them from GS are from middle class homes, but they're not "acting like chavs"... If you believe this, then you haven't stepped inside a University student union in the last 10 years. Packed to the rafters with middle-class young adults exactly like Charlotte. And the vast majority of them graduate, grow up and find jobs. It's just young people having a laugh, no idea how terminal bores are managing to brand it "the downfall of society"... I know current doctors, lawyers and civil engineers who were with me at Uni 8 years ago, throwing up their sambuca shots and acting like Charlotte.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Not sure about this. Charlotte is articulate with quite a good vocabulary. Not uneducated.

She strikes me as someone from a middle class family acting the chav. I.e. a fake! I don't watch Geordie Shore, so quite happy to know if I've got this wrong.

I don't watch it either and after seeing her on BB I have no desire to. I suppose GS is filmed for the younger audience anyway

[barbel13]

She is just vile and some people love her.God, what is wrong with us.