[fingers]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I think Carol thought... "What's the worst thing that I could say to Lauren?" "That she looks like a boy." "But that will be seen on TV as very incorrect." "So I will say it, and then change it to boyish figure." "Then Lauren may blow up, and then she can't win."

That's how I read it.

Total speculation!

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by fingers

Total speculation!

Well she did go around the room picking out something wrong with each person when Ron was there.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Well she did go around the room picking out something wrong with each person when Ron was there.

That doesn't alter the fact that what you wrote is sheer speculation.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by fingers

That doesn't alter the fact that what you wrote is sheer speculation.

Your speculation was caught out, mine hasn't been so I'm safe.

[Nedusa]

I was quite shocked at Carols use of wording to Lauren that involved the words boy or boyish as this is clearly provocative bearing in mind Lauren's history and transgender background. I for one like carol very much but have to admit to being slightly shocked at her use of this type of language . I wonder if it was done for effect to upset and wind up Lauren perhaps to solicit a reaction.... Hmmmm

[Tozzie]

I'm not quite sure why she felt the need to make the comment at all, by all means think it but was it really necessary to say it out loud.

[Livia]

Lauren does have a boyish figure, as some people have already said. It wasn't mean as an insult, I'm sure. Surely people should be relaxed about Lauren and who she is, and not have to watch every single thing they say in case she's offended. Wouldn't that be far worse, if people were always on egg shells worrying about what they can and can't say? It's not like Carol made some kind of serious, thought-through phobic comment.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Lauren does have a boyish figure, as some people have already said. It wasn't mean as an insult, I'm sure. Surely people should be relaxed about Lauren and who she is, and not have to watch every single thing they say in case she's offended. Wouldn't that be far worse, if people were always on egg shells worrying about what they can and can't say? It's not like Carol made some kind of serious, thought-through phobic comment.

I wouldn't feel like I was walking on eggshells, I just wouldn't have said that in the first place

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I wouldn't feel like I was walking on eggshells, I just wouldn't have said that in the first place

So you'd have been filtering your comments, however innocent they might be, because of Lauren's extreme sensitivity. If that's not walking on eggshells, I'm not sure what is.

[Vanessa]

I think Lauren took no offence. Carol meant no harm.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Livia

So you'd have been filtering your comments, however innocent they might be, because of Lauren's extreme sensitivity. If that's not walking on eggshells, I'm not sure what is.

what do you mean filtering my comments? Like I said earlier, I would never have said that in the first place because I could see how it may offend and I'm the sort of person who doesn't like to upset people, I think of others feelings before I speak. I just don't think the comment was necessary.

[CaudleHalbard]

Lauren can't help having a boyish figure. Even sticking on a pair of fake boobs will never change that.

[swanny123]

I,m sick & tired of people treading on egg shells all around lauren - she above anyone else knew EXACTLY what the show & contestants can be like & has spent years pleading to go in !she DOES have a boyish figure & also if anyone has seen her on cbbbots as a so called "fashion advisor" they would know she makes some awful remarks about the people & their clothes - I think she has a mental problem & shouldn,t have been allowed in in the first place - I doubt very much wether the house mates have any true feelings for her they just tolerate her in the nicest possible way

[Northern Monkey]

Meh,Carol is entitled to say Lauren has a boyish figure if that's what she thinks.Lauren did'nt like it,Carol appologised,Lauren accepted it,End of.Lauren could say that Carol has a face like a ballsack,Appologise next day then it is up to Carol wether she accepts the appology,If she does,Cool,No harm done.No biggy really.

[CaudleHalbard]

I presume Carol was drunk when she said it..... without thinking.

Lauren seemed unbothered.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I presume Carol was drunk when she said it..... without thinking.

Lauren seemed unbothered.

Carol doesnt give a flying eff what she says, end of

[PrincessIona]

I actually think Lauren has quite a feminine figure, she has a small waist and she looked good in the dress she wore when she went in the house. I think for a transgendered person she is quite fortunate. I think if it wasn't for her height and very odd appearance she could go unnoticed.

I think what Carol said was pretty rude, I'm all for honesty but a unsolicited comment on someone's appearance really isn't necessary

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by PrincessIona

I actually think Lauren has quite a feminine figure, she has a small waist and she looked good in the dress she wore when she went in the house. I think for a transgendered person she is quite fortunate. I think if it wasn't for her height and very odd appearance she could go unnoticed.

I think what Carol said was pretty rude, I'm all for honesty but a unsolicited comment on someone's appearance really isn't necessary

I agree.