[Josy]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Ok it turns some people into brain dead zombies.... and others into laughing fools.
It doesn't make you smarter either you just think it does, in reality you just babble the same shiz you always have

Well that's not exactly true, it heightens the imagination and so then can be responsible for improving creativity.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Well that's not exactly true, it heightens the imagination and so then can be responsible for improving creativity.

Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music

Please rejoin this thread once you've actually sampled the devil's lettuce.

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music

Steady on Kizzy, that's enough LSD for you

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Ok it turns some people into brain dead zombies.... and others into laughing fools.
It doesn't make you smarter either you just think it does, in reality you just babble the same shiz you always have

Well, it's one of those things you won't fully understand unless you actually experience it for yourself. I agree with Josy.

[Ramsay]

It's a widely known and proven fact that injecting marijuanas kills

Youtube video

[Brother Leon]

Nothing wrong with it and it isn't addictive either. I decided to give it up simply as I was pleaded to and I did easily lol. Alcohol is a lot more dangerous tbh.

[Kizzy]

It's well known that laudanum was a fave of literary greats but cannabis .... I don't think so.
Should we all start taking opiates to expand our minds?
( this question is not open to stu)

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

It's well known that laudanum was a fave of literary greats but cannabis .... I don't think so.
Should we all start taking opiates to expand our minds?
( this question is not open to stu)

bc weed = opiates. Educate yourself. Maybe if you smoked you'd be more open-minded and informed about drugs. We're all on drugs in one form or another, some are just more beneficial and others harmful. Weed can be fantastic for some people, others hates it. For example my friend and I each have anxiety and it makes hers worse but it alleviates mine and is a much safer alternative to getting addicted to the one class of drugs that actually makes people zombie-like and is one of the few drugs that can kill you from withdrawals, benzodiazepines. I'll stick to my weed as everyone gets on with their caffeine, nicotine, asprin, alcohol, whatever is socially acceptable.

[bwoty]

I'll stick to a gin and tonic thank you very much

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Hightens the imagination, is that the new name for delerium?
Next you'll be telling me there's colours in the music

Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

So we're attributing their achievements/creations to weed?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

So we're attributing their achievements/creations to weed?

That's not what she said, merely stated the fact that marijuana can enhance creativity, not create it. The two terms are worlds apart. A failing writer obviously won't become a nationally-respected author because he had a joint the night before. It just encourages productivity in those who already have the ability, knowingly or otherwise.

I know it all sounds far-fetched and ridiculous but that's what it is, pretty much.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Redway

That's not what she said, merely stated the fact that marijuana can enhance creativity, not create it. The two terms are worlds apart. A failing writer obviously won't become a nationally-respected author because he had a joint the night before. It just encourages productivity in those who already have the ability, knowingly or otherwise.

I know it all sounds far-fetched and ridiculous but that's what it is, pretty much.

I'm a He, but I do agree with you.
I'm just looking to attract intellectual conversation.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~HO~HO~HO~

Go read up on some of the most famous authors, song writers and poets in the world, I'm sure you will find the biggest majority of them disagree with you and I would say most of them are what would be described as pretty creative.

If you read my last post you'll see I mentioned that some literary giants relied on 'tinctures' to aid them. I doubt any one of these famous creative minds put their success soley down to cannabis though, it has no magical quality that make mundane minds brilliant.

[Ninastar]

I'm one of the very few (it seems) who disagree with it. There's so many side effects...

Cannabis can cause feelings of anxiety, suspicion, panic and paranoia.

For people with illnesses such as schizophrenia, cannabis can cause a serious relapse.

Regular cannabis use is known to be associated with an increase in the risk of later developing psychotic illnesses including schizophrenia; and if you have a family background of mental illness, you may also have an increased risk.

Cannabis can affect the way the brain works. Regular, heavy use makes it difficult to learn and concentrate and research has linked cannabis use to poor exam results.

It can increase the heart rate and affect blood pressure, which can be especially harmful for those with heart disease.

It is reported that frequent use of cannabis may affect fertility. It can cut a man's sperm count and can suppress ovulation in women.

If you’re pregnant, smoking cannabis may increase the risk of your baby being born smaller than expected. (Kinda obvious that one...)

(Just a few up there^^^) and I think it will affect teenagers the worst out of any age group.

I hate to sound patronizing here, lol but I just think there are far more cons than pros

[swinearefine]

Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...

Cannabis can cause feelings of anxiety, suspicion, panic and paranoia.

It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.

For people with illnesses such as schizophrenia, cannabis can cause a serious relapse. Regular cannabis use is known to be associated with an increase in the risk of later developing psychotic illnesses including schizophrenia; and if you have a family background of mental illness, you may also have an increased risk.

This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12...nia/63148.html

Cannabis can affect the way the brain works. Regular, heavy use makes it difficult to learn and concentrate and research has linked cannabis use to poor exam results.

People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.

It can increase the heart rate and affect blood pressure, which can be especially harmful for those with heart disease.

If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.

It is reported that frequent use of cannabis may affect fertility. It can cut a man's sperm count and can suppress ovulation in women.

Like I said, so many benefits.

If you’re pregnant, smoking cannabis may increase the risk of your baby being born smaller than expected. (Kinda obvious that one...)

Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...


It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.



This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12...nia/63148.html



People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.


If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.



Like I said, so many benefits.



Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

Likewise you can copy and paste school journal arguments all you like but it's not exactly a game changer. The benefits of legalization far outweigh the comparatively thin side effects that a very small percentage of users may or may not face.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

lmao no it's not. You can be ignorant to the facts all you want, but it's you who is missing out. What makes me really ill is the constant dissemination of prohibition dreck such as this.

EDIT: bee tee dubz thanks for such a well-thought out and thorough answer!

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

[Stu]

Meh. Mushrooms are where it's at. I think leisure park type centers should exist where people can go in and enjoy a psychedelic experience. For an added fiver you can get Leo Sayer music in your head man. In your head man. In your head man. In your head man. Man head. Man head. Head man. Language is meaningless.

[Marsh.]

Some people took my comment to heart.

Put the spliff down and lighten up.

[Nemo123]

Great response swinearefine. I've had good and bad experiences with marijuana. Because I was taking hugely different strengths.