[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What was lee meaning when he said how she speaks about those outside and said she referred to the public as peasants?
She really does think she's special and really clever, she's just cringe.

I'd say she hit the nail on the head

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I'd say she hit the nail on the head

Calling yourself a peasant?

Taking this "Queen" thing too seriously now

[reece(:]

I'm sure she was referring to those who booed her in the crowd outside, of which she is totally spot on. Keep reaching tho

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by reece(:

I'm sure she was referring to those who booed her in the crowd outside, of which she is totally spot on. Keep reaching tho

She said peasants before tonight's eviction lool

[reece(:]

There was a crowd there on Wednesday, looool

[Brother Leon]

She wasn't booed anywhere near enough on Wednesday for her to be talking about them. Hell her and Evander pretty much got tumbleweed.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Calling yourself a peasant?

Taking this "Queen" thing too seriously now

Yeah this... what, Reece??

The girl has such a superiority complex!

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Zee

The girl has such a superiority complex!

Exactly why she's great, delusion makes brilliant housemates. If she wasn't so outspoken I'd be let down. Rather than sit there and do nothing Sam.

[MarcusMel]

I personally find that because I sound 'posh' a lot of people take an instant dislike without getting to know me. I wonder if the same thing is happening to Luisa in this forum!

Intelligence Quotient (IQ) is a ridiculous idea as their are so many different ways of looking at this somewhat mal-formed concept.

Another interpretation would be 'I can't speak to a mind with fixed opinions', but using the IQ concept to offend and hurt, which clearly worked and perhaps backfired.

A lesson to us all, criticism creates enemies.

[Z]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Exactly why she's great, delusion makes brilliant housemates. If she wasn't so outspoken I'd be let down. Rather than sit there and do nothing Sam.

I agree with you there, but I wouldn't say she hit the nail on the head calling the voting public "peasants"...

[Z]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

I personally find that because I sound 'posh' a lot of people take an instant dislike without getting to know me. I wonder if the same thing is happening to Luisa in this forum!

Intelligence Quotient (IQ) is a ridiculous idea as their are so many different ways of looking at this somewhat mal-formed concept.

Another interpretation would be 'I can't speak to a mind with fixed opinions', but using the IQ concept to offend and hurt, which clearly worked and perhaps backfired.

A lesson to us all, criticism creates enemies.

Great post. Also thought your first post was excellent too - looking forward to hearing more of your opinions!

[KingOfTheMods]

They're both tosspots, they are both arrogant. Just in different ways. It's funny how people are selective with their prejudices really. That little prick showed himself up for what he really is tonight though. PR rescue? Demolition job more like.

[Jemal]

This marcus mel guy paragraphs, makes your paragraphs greg look like a nursery poet

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jemal

This marcus mel guy paragraphs, makes your paragraphs greg look like a nursery poet

I'm gonna have to up my game!

[Jemal]

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

In reply too a sexist, bigoted opinion. What she said was correct.

Well no, you shouldn't talk down to someone (even if it is Dappy) to try and belittle them in order to win an argument, that's not the way to do it.

[Lowkey]

She can dish it but can't take it.

[Jords]

He acts an idiot and the comment was to reflect on that.

[Heaven = Winner]

Luisa called Dappy bigot, yet she herself made a bigoted comment herself with that quote. The hypocrisy from her is as rich as the guy who fired her on The Apprentice.

[Z]

Can't decide who's worse for having no self awareness and being a hypocrite; Luisa or Lee... at least Dappy has his opinions and sticks to them. Luisa says **** and then changes her mind when the reaction isn't good.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by Zee

Can't decide who's worse for having no self awareness and being a hypocrite; Luisa or Lee... at least Dappy has his opinions and sticks to them. Luisa says **** and then changes her mind when the reaction isn't good.

or she decides that having someone chase you all over the house trying to convince you that your wrong is just too tiring to put up with while in the house and feels it is easier to keep quite than to be nagged at all the time. Lee can't make a decison on anything not ruled by his friend 'Dick'

[Z]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

or she decides that having someone chase you all over the house trying to convince you that your wrong is just too tiring to put up with while in the house and feels it is easier to keep quite than to be nagged at all the time. Lee can't make a decison on anything.

She didn't keep quiet though, did she? She avoided answering his question (which would have made him stop) and instead told him he was a disappointment to his mother and then started screaming at him. All of this after telling him she was above talking about this to someone like him of such low intelligence........ essentially she felt challenged by his words because they struck a chord with her, he pushed it and the "I'm above this" facade got left behind in the bedroom and she let it all hang out for all to see in the kitchen. Dappy was being a dick but she went and took it to the next level in return, at least he was consistent with his shocking behaviour!

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by Zee

She didn't keep quiet though, did she? She avoided answering his question (which would have made him stop) and instead told him he was a disappointment to his mother and then started screaming at him. All of this after telling him she was above talking about this to someone like him of such low intelligence........ essentially she felt challenged by his words because they struck a chord with her, he pushed it and the "I'm above this" facade got left behind in the bedroom and she let it all hang out for all to see in the kitchen. Dappy was being a dick but she went and took it to the next level in return, at least he was consistent with his shocking behaviour!

I find it difficult to evaluate the whole thing in the same way as I am aware of the BB slicing up and condensing what happened as evidenced by Luisa remark of being followed everywhere. I also see Dappy using the emotional pressure of 'you’re a parent you are hurting your child with your actions' to prove his attitude.

So they are equally guilty of bringing in irrational emotional pressure objects into the exchange of what can be basically summed up as 'is it wrong for a 'mother' to enjoy her body with lots of men?'

Luisa can't know how Dappy's mum feels about him. Dappy can't know the future effect on Luisa's child.

They are emotional pressure statements. Parents worry about their children, it’s an inbuilt survival mechanism, so Dappy hit the one thing Luisa has no real defence against and what I think you see as striking a chord. Dappy is not as confident of himself as he pretends to be.

but this is Just one of many possible points of view.

[Ammi]

..I don't think that either was less at fault than the other in that argument from what I could see, they were as bad as each other and neither was 'superior' in any way...