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Northern Monkey · 16-01-2014, 01:31 PM

It's just you i think.

Kizzy · 16-01-2014, 01:35 PM

He's still being very divisive though I feel, didn't luisa say early on in the series he just looked at her and said 'feck off'
once?
It's been said he is a different person once he's had a drink, nasty... and then the next day lovely.

Josy · 16-01-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's still being very divisive though I feel, didn't luisa say early on in the series he just looked at her and said 'feck off'
once?
It's been said he is a different person once he's had a drink, nasty... and then the next day lovely.

No that was Jasmine that said that do you watch the highlights? genuinely curious?,

Anyway it happened on the highlights and you could tell he was having a laugh or at least I think you could imo.

Do you have any examples of him being nasty after a drink Kizzy because I honestly can't think of any? he actually walked away from a few arguments after a drink too iirc.

jet · 16-01-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

He's still being very divisive though I feel, didn't luisa say early on in the series he just looked at her and said 'feck off'
once?
It's been said he is a different person once he's had a drink, nasty... and then the next day lovely.

Yes, the HM's themselves have said that several times and they are living with him 24 hours a day.

flamingGalah! · 16-01-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Has he changed noticeably?... no.

Yes, very clearly he has... Have you seen him making any racist or homophobic jokes? Has he been punching any women?? No.

flamingGalah! · 16-01-2014, 01:52 PM

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Yes, the HM's themselves have said that several times and they are living with him 24 hours a day.

Yes, every single housemate has said that about Jim

And so what if he isn't as nice to people when he's had a drink? Most of the others are not nice 24/7

Loukas · 16-01-2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Jim's style of humour was once acceptable but now isn't. The world has moved on - but Jim hasn't.

His solution? Hit the bottle rather than change!

couldn't write it better myself

Ellen · 16-01-2014, 01:56 PM

I think most of the time he does it in jest but can turn when someone rubs him up the wrong way or tries to twist what he says.

jet · 16-01-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Yes, every single housemate has said that about Jim

And so what if he isn't as nice to people when he's had a drink? Most of the others are not nice 24/7

Most of them have - and most of them nommed him remember.

Kizzy · 16-01-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

No that was Jasmine that said that do you watch the highlights? genuinely curious?,

Anyway it happened on the highlights and you could tell he was having a laugh or at least I think you could imo.

Do you have any examples of him being nasty after a drink Kizzy because I honestly can't think of any? he actually walked away from a few arguments after a drink too iirc.

Yes josy I genuinely do.. and it was jim that said it, which is the main point whoever he said it to.
In the highlights it was said by a HM that he was rude whilst drinking and then in the morning was really nice and a different person entirely, it was a couple of days ago.

jet · 16-01-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Jim's style of humour was once acceptable but now isn't. The world has moved on - but Jim hasn't.

His solution? Hit the bottle rather than change!

You've hit the nail on the head. His type of 'humour' is the type that puts people down. He couldn't change his act to move with the times because he doesn't know how to be funny without trying to belittle and heap scorn on minorities and women.

jet · 16-01-2014, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes josy I genuinely do.. and it was jim that said it, which is the main point whoever he said it to.
In the highlights it was said by a HM that he was rude whilst drinking and then in the morning was really nice and a different person entirely, it was a couple of days ago.

More than one person said it. Can you remember who they were? There was a group of them talking and they all agreed on it.

flamingGalah! · 16-01-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

Most of them have - and most of them nommed him remember.

Most nommed him for being miserable, that is a bit different to saying that he tuns violent after a drink!

Kizzy · 16-01-2014, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

More than one person said it. Can you remember who they were? There was a group of them talking and they all agreed on it.

I can't no but I remember thinking that was behaviour atypical of an alcoholic.

jet · 16-01-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Most nommed him for being miserable, that is a bit different to saying that he tuns violent after a drink!

Where did I say they nommed him for that?

The HM's in conversation said he was nasty and rude on drink in the house - not violent.

Northern Monkey · 16-01-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jet

More than one person said it. Can you remember who they were? There was a group of them talking and they all agreed on it.

More than likely Luisa,Jasmine and Linda,In which case that comment holds no water since they did'nt like him anyway.

Kazanne · 16-01-2014, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Can't say I have noticed & yes, like MANY comedians of his day, Jim used to do racist/homophobic jokes, which back then were not considered offensive, yes the world has moved on & so should everyone else banging on about how Jim USED to be...

My parents used to watch a program called Love thy neighbour and Mind your language,both aired openly on TV and had good rating it was acceptable then,times change as do people.

Kazanne · 16-01-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

More than likely Luisa,Jasmine and Linda,In which case that comment holds no water since they did'nt like him anyway.

Yes Linda did a job on them a couple of nights in,she set the tone for them to dislike Jim.

MrWong · 16-01-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

More than likely Luisa,Jasmine and Linda,In which case that comment holds no water since they did'nt like him anyway.

Ollie's and Sam's face to face nom's suggested that Jim was the problem.

Are excuses going to be used for their opinions as well?

Northern Monkey · 16-01-2014, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

My parents used to watch a program called Love thy neighbour and Mind your language,both aired openly on TV and had good rating it was acceptable then,times change as do people.

Me and our lass watched an episode of 'Love Thy Neighbour' last night.It was all in good fun with racism from both sides but still would'nt be viewed as acceptable now.It had Patrick from Eastenders in it when he was young.

Cherry Christmas · 16-01-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Jim's style of humour was once acceptable but now isn't. The world has moved on - but Jim hasn't.

His solution? Hit the bottle rather than change!

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yep a prejudiced dinosaur, surprised he keeps getting given a platform tbh.

[QUOTE=jet;6624191]Yes, the HM's themselves have said that several times and they are living with him 24 hours a day.[/QUOTE]

Jasmine said on BOTS last night that she quite liked Jim and she found him funny, and Evander said that he got on really well with Bill, who everyone assumed must be Jim.

Cherry Christmas · 16-01-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

Ollie's and Sam's face to face nom's suggested that Jim was the problem.

Are excuses going to be used for their opinions as well?

Oh come on now, he and Liz were their scapegoat nominations, who else in all honesty were they going to nominate, they are far too nicey nice to rock the boat, Sam said she had no problem with Jim, just how he was with Linda ( and with Linda it is very 50/50_)

MrWong · 16-01-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh come on now, he and Liz were their scapegoat nominations, who else in all honesty were they going to nominate, they are far too nicey nice to rock the boat, Sam said she had no problem with Jim, just how he was with Linda ( and with Linda it is very 50/50_)

We'd be able to tell if they'd been allowed to nominate again. BB and it's interfering

I don't think they were scapegoat nom's as the reasoning seemed genuine.