[anne666]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Nah Chuff. I might agree with you if he had pulled out an unrelated issue during their first argument, but this is him trying to defend himself against a constant assault from Linda, especially as she is turning the house against him and he knows that his role in getting her hubby arrested is at the heart of her hatred towards him. If someone constantly berated me for helping bring a relative to justice, and people were being poisoned against me, I would want the facts made public whether their loved one was dead, dying or sat beside me so as to clear the air. I'm amazed he's held his tongue for so long, but I believe he was going for a live and let live approach.

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by anne666

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

Exactly.

Apparently he's been goading her about the incident already when he made a dig about helping her out in Blackpool. Anyone remember when that happened?

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by anne666

Why didn't he speak to her privately about it then?

Linda has never spoken to Jim privately. Linda has ralled her coven repeatedly, publicly lambasted Jim at every opportunity, and even on his first CBB night, on what might have been the first day of a new life/career for him, he had to listen to her slag him off in front of the nation (unprovoked as well, unless 20yrs ago still counts and is relevant, especially considering he has had his own difficulties over the last year and demons to deal with.) Also, earlier in the night after making dinner, she verbally went for him again in front of everyone, telling him not to bother.

If he is trying to learn self-control and avoid conflict, he needs to avoid the poison dwarf at all costs. Apologies to dwarves.

[bez87]

Originally Posted by sampvt

He didn't blurt out ask her, he said her anger must be something to do with Frank carson, then he said in response to a blank look, ask her about Carson dressing room. Jim knows why she hates him and he wanted it out in the open to clear the air. Its out now and the silly cow is playing the victim. I don't care whether or not its your dad, son or grandson, nobody has the right to defend a convicted theif and as for not talking ill of the dead, should we all now praise Jimmy saville or anyone bad who has passed, I think not.

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by bez87

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

I agree, I cant see why the British Public can be so naďve and fooled by him. Hes the type of person who can sit there and do nothing and still make you feel uncomfortable because you know how his mind works.

He starts fights with little comments, a housemate bites back and then he walks away telling them they are crazy or turns it around to make them look bad.

Last night he lied and backtracked, its the only argument he couldn't get out of and you could see it in his eyes that he was ****ting himself knowing what he had done was way below the belt. You don't bring up the dead, simple as that. Obviously she feels hurt its like hes made her husband look like a fool to millions of people.

That's the man she loved so she is going to be very angry and defensive.

[jet]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I agree, I cant see why the British Public can be so naďve and fooled by him. Hes the type of person who can sit there and do nothing and still make you feel uncomfortable because you know how his mind works.

He starts fights with little comments, a housemate bites back and then he walks away telling them they are crazy or turns it around to make them look bad.

Last night he lied and backtracked, its the only argument he couldn't get out of and you could see it in his eyes that he was ****ting himself knowing what he had done was way below the belt. You don't bring up the dead, simple as that. Obviously she feels hurt its like hes made her husband look like a fool to millions of people.

That's the man she loved so she is going to be very angry and defensive.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bez87

Wow you must be one of the people who craze people who are scum.

Jim knew exactly what he was doing he said "ASK HER ABOUT FRANK CARSONS DRESSING ROOM" lusia even said what and he repeated he knew exactly what he was doing, it is evil and out of order to bring up the past esps when she wasn't the one who stealed and the guy is dead it happened years ago. he also lied to the lads on how he handled asking lusia about having a man in her life, he never said husband he just out right came out and said why don't you have a man in your life, yes linda jumps at him for silly things, jim didn't need to say that but they could of easily brushed it aside, but there was no reason for jim to lie outside, he is a twisted little man, who gets his kicks from telling the truth and then denying to get a raise out of someone,
just like the way he had a go at lusia and said he never said to ask her, and at that point i rewound the recording and made sure he said ask her and he even said it twice, it's an absolute joke, and a disgrace and how anyone can like that behaviour is beyond me

quick question..when linda was told that jim said "ask her about Frank Carsons dressing room" did linda say "oh that's my husband"..she did which led me to believe she was actually married to frank carson, so linda got her words a bit muddled up as did jim..jim thought he said ""it will be about frank carsons dressing room" which would tie in with the discussion at the time which was about why linda had it in for him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Ive got smoke coming out of my bloody ears, Ive never ,ever seen anyone stoop so low ,just watched it as i had it on catch up because hubby watching tv ,Im livid

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

common sense .

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

how do you fill about jimmy savil


how dare all these woman say these things about him when he cannot defend himself


do you see how floored your logic is ?

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Arrow

how do you fill about jimmy savil


how dare all these woman say these things about him when he cannot defend himself


do you see how floored your logic is ?

Yeah, because stealing money from someone's wallet is TOTALLY like being a sexual predator.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

I know, right? He just needs to blank her completely. That's what i would do. Sometimes there's no other way.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I know, right? He just needs to blank her completely. That's what i would do. Sometimes there's no other way.

The problem is, it is hard to do that in the BB house, there are always times you have to interact with each other and that miserable witch knows that too and uses it every way she can.

He could have done things a bit differently but for me the end justified the means, she got a bit of what was overdue coming to her from the start of the series really.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

I don't think he expected Louisa to tell her and then blamed her for doing so. What a coward! Linda didn't commit the crime either. No-one deserves that cruelty.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

Or maybe the backtracking was because he doesn't want to lose the public's support.

[Z]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Or maybe the backtracking was because he doesn't want to lose the public's support.

Jim? The man who openly, intentionally insulted the crowd outside on the last eviction? I somehow don't think so. The guy didn't have any public support going into this program.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Zee

Jim? The man who openly, intentionally insulted the crowd outside on the last eviction? I somehow don't think so. The guy didn't have any public support going into this program.

He knows he has the public support from being saved first twice and the cheers from the rent a mob.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What it's not like he made it up! You could see he knew he put his foot in it and tried desperately to backtrack which shows humanity on his part. She played her part in needling him constantly as well.

Are you serious!!!? It showed COWARDICE.

[Z]

Originally Posted by jet

Are you serious!!!? It showed COWARDICE.

So if he'd stood by his comment and didn't try to apologise for upsetting her, how would you have viewed him? He can't win with some people on here.

He said something stupid. He knew it and he regretted it. He tried to apologise. Linda rightfully was upset. He should try to apologise again tomorrow.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zee

So if he'd stood by his comment and didn't try to apologise for upsetting her, how would you have viewed him? He can't win with some people on here.

He said something stupid. He knew it and he regretted it. He tried to apologise. Linda rightfully was upset. He should try to apologise again tomorrow.

He didn't want to apologise zee, he wanted to rub salt in. He wanted to stand there and watch her cry knowing he achieved EXACTLY what he set out to achieve, objective accomplished.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Zee

So if he'd stood by his comment and didn't try to apologise for upsetting her, how would you have viewed him? He can't win with some people on here.

He said something stupid. He knew it and he regretted it. He tried to apologise. Linda rightfully was upset. He should try to apologise again tomorrow.

Honestly? I would have had some respect for him if he had regretted what he said on the night and not showed himself to be a lying coward when Linda came into the garden to ask him about it. He outright denied it, then he bumbled about grasping at straws, then when she went indoors he tried to make himself out to be the injured party with Dappy and Lee.

He did the same thing when he said "don't you miss having a MAN". He went into the garden and lied again, telling the others a different version to gain their support, running her down to them and shouting out to her she was loony.

It was the same story with Luisa - he tells her "ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" then when Luisa does he lies again and says he said "ask her IS IT ABOUT Frank Carson's dressing room. Does he not know it is all recorded?

To cap it all off, he then gets at Luisa for telling Linda, WTF! trying to shift the blame in his mind from it all to HER.

The man is a manipulative lying coward and in my view he can stick his too late apology up his chauvinistic ass.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Well hes shown his true colours tonight, what a dirty rotten ,lowlife bastard he is, Lindas husband cannot defend himself, Im fuming ,that poor cow ,no need for that whatsoever

I agree. What a vicious and shocking thing to say. How low can anyone go? Would he dare say that to any man about his deceased wife? Then he lied about it and than tried to blame Louisa for telling her. He didn't even have the balls to say it to her face! I'm sickened.