[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Arrow

lee pulled her up on this in the house for someone with such low self esteem she came across a bit nasty in her talent task

In this she seems to think she is above everyone in the house and even working class people

She doesn't care about the truth. Her article is not truthful at all.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Liz said that Jim's behaviour towards her caused her to self harm. She was in there and witnessed him 24/7 so I believe what she says.

She also said Linda's husband died last year.

[Spoon]

BB let a HM who had been drinking have sleeping pills. How responsible.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She doesn't care about the truth. Her article is not truthful at all.

Of course it is, she was in there for 3 weeks. These are her opinions and you keep banging on about how everyone is entitled to their own. You're only dismissing it because it doesn't say what you want it to say.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Spoon

BB let a HM who had been drinking have sleeping pills. How responsible.

That's what Liz says. We don't know if it's true or not.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

She also said Linda's husband died last year.

So one mistakes means she's wrong about everything? ok.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

So one mistakes means she's wrong about everything? ok.

That's not what I said.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She doesn't care about the truth. Her article is not truthful at all.

It's her own opinion

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

That's not what I said.

That's how it came across to me.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

That's how it came across to me.

My point was you said she was in there and witnessed everything 24/7 well she either witnessed Linda saying her husband died last year which is a lie or she picked her up wrong, Liz is deaf and could hear bits and pieces of things and think something else was said.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Josy

My point was you said she was in there and witnessed everything 24/7 well she either witnessed Linda saying her husband died last year which is a lie or she picked her up wrong, Liz is deaf and could hear bits and pieces of things and think something else was said.

Making a mistake on something trivial like that and making a mistake about somebody causing another distress to the point they take to self harm are wildly different.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Josy

My point was you said she was in there and witnessed everything 24/7 well she either witnessed Linda saying her husband died last year which is a lie or she picked her up wrong, Liz is deaf and could hear bits and pieces of things and think something else was said.

That is a very good point, Josy. She could have heard things wrong.

[Kazanne]

Some people dislike Jim so much ,they really want this to be true,and although it's obviously billy bullshine,it's just the thing they need to justify their dislike.This is how people get a bad name,others throw mud and some sticks !!

[Seraphim]

It's a great article, but typical of Liz Jones. She really doesn't really understand that she might hurt people when she writes about them like that. She has fallen out with friends after writing about them, and she had to move house because of writing about all the locals. If she hadn't described the HMs as "stupid" it wouldn't have been bad, but it's snobbish to dismiss others and feel superior to them because of your intellect - everyone has something different to offer.

[Rob!]

Wow. This Linda thing could get the show into a lot of trouble.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

Wow. This Linda thing could get the show into a lot of trouble.

That woman scares me.

[Brother Leon]

"Dappy, who was covered in so many tattoos I was driven to reading them all one evening, so desperate was I for a book, and who in a general knowledge test scored only six per cent, which embarrassed him hugely, proved himself a gentleman when for the third night in a row I was sat in the bedroom toilet, vomiting from the stress. He held my hair from my face, and rubbed my back, cooing all the while".

What a lovely guy.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She doesn't care about the truth. Her article is not truthful at all.

How do you know? Were you in there, or going by what BB has shown everyone?

[Lex]

Not a pleasant article was it ! and for someone that claims to be unimpressed by celebrity , Jim's saying that she wasn't famous sure seems to have scarred her hasn't it!..lol... anyway...She was a nobody to me before she went in the house...and now...i'm beginning to forget her already!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

How do you know? Were you in there, or going by what BB has shown everyone?

She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.

Yes and Jim comes across as a rude, sexist and underhanded moron to me and quiet a few others. We don't care for this every excuse under the sun from his fans to justify his behavior, it is how we perceive him, just like Liz perceives Jim and she was there first hand. So no, she is not wrong, you may not like nor agree with it, but that still doesn't make her wrong.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Yes and Jim comes across as a rude, sexist and underhanded moron to me and quiet a few others. We don't care for this every excuse under the sun from his fans to justify his behavior, it is how we perceive him, just like Liz perceives Jim and she was there first hand.

It just makes me wonder what else she got wrong in that article.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It just makes me wonder what else she got wrong in that article.

It also makes me wonder why some people are so blind to the fact that BB shows us only 45 minutes of footage from a 24 hour a day, and if people don't get by now they select footage very carefully to portray housemates in certain ways then there is no helping those people. Her article is stretched a bit for the papers, but the fact you have quite a few of the housemates who cannot stand Jim it really says something about him.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She got things wrong. Maybe she heard wrong, because she's deaf. Who knows? But she comes across as a snob to me.

What things? the only one I see is the year Linda's husband passed away.

[Pincho Paxton]

Liz's article could have been written in a nicer way, and still got a lot of readers, maybe a better article for being nice. I think that a nasty article is her way of identifying readers, and making money, but I personally wanted a nice article. However some of her points are interesting.. the secrets...

Linda self harming.

Somebody taking pills, and alcohol.