[Jake.]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

"A repugnant dullard victory" will certainly be better than a JIM DAVIDSON victory so fingers crossed. If it somehow ends up being a Sam Faiers win, even better since it'll be a victory for women all over <3

I didn't realise that wallpaper had a gender..

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I didn't realise that wallpaper had a gender..

Ily

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I didn't realise that wallpaper had a gender..

[Ammi]

..I think if someone like Sam wins, it'll just leave it open for other future housemates to go in and be exactly the same and 'coast' through and that would be the worst sort of house...I wouldn't mind Luisa winning but definitely not Sam...she would neither be a 'victory' as a housemate or a victory for women...it would be no victory at all...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think if someone like Sam wins, it'll just leave it open for other future housemates to go in and be exactly the same and 'coast' through and that would be the worst sort of house...I wouldn't mind Luisa winning but definitely not Sam...she would neither be a 'victory' as a housemate or a victory for women...it would be no victory at all...

Agreed, said as much on a different thread, it won't bode well for BB15 if Sam or indeed Ollie win.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think if someone like Sam wins, it'll just leave it open for other future housemates to go in and be exactly the same and 'coast' through and that would be the worst sort of house...I wouldn't mind Luisa winning but definitely not Sam...she would neither be a 'victory' as a housemate or a victory for women...it would be no victory at all...

Completely agree with you Ammi. It's so easy for a celebrity to keep quiet for 4 weeks with the promise of a large pay cheque waiting for them at the end of it as motivation. Normal people have to wait twice as long and only one of them gets paid; there is no such motivation to keep quiet and self censor in order to maintain a good public image nor is there a financial incentive to be entertaining because the celebrities get the money regardless. There have of course been poor winners of BB/CBB in the past, but this series especially has been full of drama so it would be a cop out to have a dull winner like Sam or Ollie.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jake.

I didn't realise that wallpaper had a gender..

o.m.g.



Winner

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

"A repugnant dullard victory" will certainly be better than a JIM DAVIDSON victory so fingers crossed. If it somehow ends up being a Sam Faiers win, even better since it'll be a victory for women all over <3

[Lex]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

"A repugnant dullard victory" will certainly be better than a JIM DAVIDSON victory so fingers crossed. If it somehow ends up being a Sam Faiers win, even better since it'll be a victory for women all over <3

When you report me for calling you an unreasonable "Misandrist", remember to quote the above post to show how unreal the allegation is!

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lex

When you report me for calling you an unreasonable "Misandrist", remember to quote the above post to show how unreal the allegation is!

I never reported you lol bye

[the truth]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

"A repugnant dullard victory" will certainly be better than a JIM DAVIDSON victory so fingers crossed. If it somehow ends up being a Sam Faiers win, even better since it'll be a victory for women all over <3

profoundly sexist

[Brother Leon]

Well deserved tbf.

[alex_front2]

Yep, Jim will win

Olly and Sam are splitting votes and Luisa is too "slutty" to win voters over despite being entertaining. Dappy hasn't pushed through enoughwith AT.

[Z]

I'm not sure how a Sam Faiers win would be a victory for women all over; I wouldn't consider Jim winning a victory for men everywhere.

[abhorson]

Someone should have a word with optimisticcynic, he/she will help.

[lepricorn121]

I believe that Jim has mellowed with age, as the saying goes sometimes!I think CBB has 'helped' him to perhaps learn to control his past/present behaviour that has been unacceptable to others.... well, he's done a very good job and deserves to win.!.. unlike like Louisa that 'says it as it is' and not considering others feelings. Sometimes in life you have to hold your tongue and have some 'decorame..

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lepricorn121

I believe that Jim has mellowed with age, as the saying goes sometimes!I think CBB has 'helped' him to perhaps learn to control his past/present behaviour that has been unacceptable to others.... well, he's done a very good job and deserves to win.!.. unlike like Louisa that 'says it as it is' and not considering others feelings. Sometimes in life you have to hold your tongue and have some 'decorame..

he has been very genuine and caring to everyone. the way he helped jasmine when liz mentioned suicide, the way he cooks for them all, the way he helped louisa when she was crying, casey umpteen times when she was hurt, the way he has helped lee umpteen times and olly when he was hurt and dappy when he had his migraine. great bloke and always done with enormous humour and heart

[lepricorn121]

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Originally Posted by the truth

he has been very genuine and caring to everyone. the way he helped jasmine when liz mentioned suicide, the way he cooks for them all, the way he helped louisa when she was crying, casey umpteen times when she was hurt, the way he has helped lee umpteen times and olly when he was hurt and dappy when he had his migraine. great bloke and always done with enormous humour and heartYes , when you collate all that together, thats covered all the essential qualities for a great winner, in my eyes. Well said.

[Vanessa]

No Sam or Ollie, please. Fence sitters don't deserve to win.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No Sam or Ollie, please. Fence sitters don't deserve to win.

Agreed.

Most viewers don't vote but if every viewer voted then Sam or Ollie wouldn't win as most viewers prefer the big characters.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lepricorn121

I believe that Jim has mellowed with age, as the saying goes sometimes!I think CBB has 'helped' him to perhaps learn to control his past/present behaviour that has been unacceptable to others.... well, he's done a very good job and deserves to win.!.. unlike like Louisa that 'says it as it is' and not considering others feelings. Sometimes in life you have to hold your tongue and have some 'decorame..

..I do agree, I think that CBB has probably helped him a lot and his tolerance of others and if he wins, I think that public approval will hopefully help him even more...

[Robodog]

Jim deserves the win over any of the others.

It was good to see him get some positive female support from Sam's mum tonight and from Casey's mum on the next show. It helps dispel those knee-jerk accusations of 'jim is sexist' to have HM's mums - grounded, caring women - show their support for him on the show.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Jim deserves the win over any of the others.

It was good to see him get some positive female support from Sam's mum tonight and from Casey's mum on the next show. It helps dispel those knee-jerk accusations of 'jim is sexist' to have HM's mums - grounded, caring women - show their support for him on the show.

true . jim has destroyed the man hating sexist lies and risen above it all with heart and humour

[abhorson]

C5's own BB site have a very high percentage of women who want Jim to win. So most have put the past to bed.

[Loukas]

I thought Jim was shown in amazing light tonight. His talk with Casey and him opening the bedroom door to watch the drama made great TV. I'm still rooting for Luisa but if he wins he would be a worthy winner.
Wednesday's final is shaping up to be a really interesting one, Sam(), Dappy and Jim all have huge fanbases, it's interesting to see which way it goes! Luisa is now the underdog now in my eyes, she has a large following online but i don't know how many of her online fans are voting? She's gone from having majority boos to having a mixed crowd reaction so i'm curious to see where she places. I do think Jim will take it now though.