[Ninastar]

same

but sadly unless i get a sex change, it wont work

[Marsh.]

Oh, so she's a lesbian? (Doesn't know who she is )

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Oh, so she's a lesbian? (Doesn't know who she is )

dont know if shes full on lesbian but she's been linked to some girls in the past. there was even photos but her management managed to take them down

[King Gizzard]

Can't look into this/google it without google just bringing up pictures of literally bearded celebrities

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Z]

I put it in Serious Debates because I wanted people to debate it, arista.

I think it brings up a lot of moral debates when you think about it. Is the person hiring someone to mask their sexuality a coward or are they being clever to advance their career prospects? Or is it both or neither? And is the person being hired taking advantage and perpetuating the myth that gay people shouldn't come out, or are they just making their way in the world and helping someone out (for a financial incentive, of course)?

And then with other types of fake romances, are they adding to the problematic, intrusive nature of media? So many of these fake romances are just engineered to gain publicity for both parties (e.g. Taylor Swift and Harry Styles) - it's not just limited to Z-listers trying to get a mention in the Sun. Or do you think that it's a form of professional networking like you would see in other professions - be seen with certain people in order to be introduced to other people, making connections and building up a name for yourself? It's very difficult to even slightly break into any of the fame industries, let alone become a media fixture - so they'll do anything within their power to get there. Is that acceptable or should that practice be discouraged?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

I put it in Serious Debates because I wanted people to debate it, arista.

I think it brings up a lot of moral debates when you think about it. Is the person hiring someone to mask their sexuality a coward or are they being clever to advance their career prospects? Or is it both or neither? And is the person being hired taking advantage and perpetuating the myth that gay people shouldn't come out, or are they just making their way in the world and helping someone out (for a financial incentive, of course)?

And then with other types of fake romances, are they adding to the problematic, intrusive nature of media? So many of these fake romances are just engineered to gain publicity for both parties (e.g. Taylor Swift and Harry Styles) - it's not just limited to Z-listers trying to get a mention in the Sun. Or do you think that it's a form of professional networking like you would see in other professions - be seen with certain people in order to be introduced to other people, making connections and building up a name for yourself? It's very difficult to even slightly break into any of the fame industries, let alone become a media fixture - so they'll do anything within their power to get there. Is that acceptable or should that practice be discouraged?

Well a Mod Backs you Spunky Zee


I just think so many will joke about it
which is why General Chat would be my choice alone
to post this.

[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

Well a Mod Backs you Spunky Zee


I just think so many will joke about it
which is why General Chat would be my choice alone
to post this.

I don't think people have joked about it in the thread though, I posted a lot () of different questions and aspects of the debate to try and get it going, which generally is what to do if you want to get a debate going.. if I'd wanted a joke thread I'd have put it in C&G

[Ninastar]

funny how almost all of taylor swifts boyfriends seem gay, isn't it?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

funny how almost all of taylor swifts boyfriends seem gay, isn't it?

I know... I mean it's a mutually beneficial thing - the more famous men she's linked with, the more man hating anthems she can release to popular approval; and any guy linked with her gets this unofficial "oh he's been with her so he's definitely not gay" stamp which is a pretty good way to hide in plain sight. But of course the whole thing will come crashing down if any of her 'ex boyfriends' comes out in the near future... there're probably contracts in place to make sure that doesn't happen any time soon.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Z

I know... I mean it's a mutually beneficial thing - the more famous men she's linked with, the more man hating anthems she can release to popular approval; and any guy linked with her gets this unofficial "oh he's been with her so he's definitely not gay" stamp which is a pretty good way to hide in plain sight. But of course the whole thing will come crashing down if any of her 'ex boyfriends' comes out in the near future... there're probably contracts in place to make sure that doesn't happen any time soon.

oh yeah, i forgot about the contract thing in my long ass rant!!!

but yeah, you're right. sometimes contracts can stop you from coming out because you're supposed to 'avoid major controversy' at all costs and stuff...

[King Gizzard]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

funny how almost all of taylor swifts boyfriends seem gay, isn't it?

thought it was quite odd when her and Ed Sheeran weren't meant to be seeing each other when they don't suit each other at all

[GypsyGoth]

Right up until Ellen Page came out, some parts of the media had her dating Alexander Skarsgard. The actors (who are friends) achieved this by going to some basketball games together and just hanging out. The celeb gossips just made up a relationship because they were sighted together, they didn't even have to kiss hug or hold hands to get the lie going.

I think that's the more tame side of bearding, it's just friends helping each other out, and although it's not directly for money, it does increase their chances of getting offered more for their next film, or even getting offered a next film at all.

But the other side of bearding, the one created by PR teams, to keep the likes of male rappers and female leading ladies appearing as hetro to the majority of the music buying and cinema going public. I think as mentioned by Caitlin, it's a symptom of an ill hollywood/music industry. And I think it's purely because of the large amounts of money at stake.

Strangely it doesn't seem to be in the medias interest to expose these or search out the truth in the celeb pairing they're presented with. I guess they might not want to bite the hand that feeds them.

And lastly I believe the showmances in the likes of BB are less sinister, as both people are pretty much complicit in the attempt in getting money out of the media.

[Z]

That's an interesting point, isn't it GG... you'd think it would be right up the media's street to have a big exposé - but then I guess it benefits them to have made up relationships to write **** about? There must be a fine line... if a certain celebrity is acting out of line, maybe they get revenge by outing the lies?

[GiRTh]

Whos the girl in the pic and is she a lesbian?

Its kind of understandable if it a celeb who doesnt anticipate any kind of longevity but when someone has been around for 10+ years with rumours flying around it becomes a bit embarrassing to maintain the facade *cough* Declan Donnely *cough*

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Whos the girl in the pic and is she a lesbian?

Its kind of understandable if it a celeb who doesnt anticipate any kind of longevity but when someone has been around for 10+ years with rumours flying around it becomes a bit embarrassing to maintain the facade *cough* Declan Donnely *cough*

the one i posted? naya rivera, i posted a little bit about her and her past... its not known if shes a lesbian or not but there's enough proof out there that she isn't straight

[Marsh.]

I don't think Declan Donnelly comes across gay at all.

[GiRTh]

Apparently Dec is dating his manager. Check out the 'chemistry' in these pictures.

http://celebbuzze.blogspot.co.uk/201...li-astall.html

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Apparently Dec is dating his manager. Check out the 'chemistry' in these pictures.

http://celebbuzze.blogspot.co.uk/201...li-astall.html

....hmmmm...

[Marsh.]

I don't get it. Do they have to have sex on the grass whilst walking the dog to convince people they have "chemistry"?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

I don't get it. Do they have to have sex on the grass whilst walking the dog to convince people they have "chemistry"?

Yes.

[Jarrod]

Louis Tomlinson and Eleanor Calder... So much speculation about this.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Jarrod

Louis Tomlinson and Eleanor Calder... So much speculation about this.

i wouldnt be surprised if all the boys were in fake relationships tbh

I dont think Perrie/Zayn is real

[thesheriff443]

sorry arista for saying this was not z's thread.
z, why have you got mtvn under z?

[Z]

I think Perrie/Zayn is an engineered relationship too but I think he's heterosexual, it was just to combine Syco's two money earners and their fan bases, in order to get girls to buy into Little Mix.