[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I've bet on it a couple of times,but as I have taken more notice of it,I've not liked what I've seen,so that for me has put me off,we can nip to the pub

Sounds like a plan!


you saw your neighbour whipping a dog, you'd be on the phone to the police immediately, right? Of course, anyone with a shred of decency condemns hurting animals. Yet, inexplicably, some still turn a blind eye to the premeditated cruelty to horses during the Grand National, in which riders are required to carry a whip. Every year, racehorses sustain catastrophic injuries. Many pay with their lives.

When 40 skittish horses are jammed onto a treacherous obstacle course, viciously whipped, and forced into jumping, breakdowns are inevitable. Last year, only 17 – fewer than half – finished the Grand National, and while the race organisers were quick to highlight an absence of fatalities after last year's main event, they conveniently failed to mention that the same course killed two horses earlier in the week. According to research by Animal Aid in 2012, Aintree was the most lethal of all of Britain's racecourses, claiming the lives of six horses in just eight days of racing.

Treated like wind-up toys – their fragile limbs pushed to and sometimes beyond breaking point – many horses sustain fractured legs or necks or severed tendons, while others have heart attacks. Every year, hundreds of horses die on British racetracks. Thousands more are turned into dog food when they stop winning.

The mindset that horses are little more than tools to be used, abused and discarded is entrenched in the racing industry. Ruby Walsh's comment that horses are "replaceable" is deeply offensive. Horses are not unfeeling – they experience joy, anxiety, fear and affection. They are also clever and perceptive, as anyone who has seen a horse figure out how to open stable-door latches will tell you. However, Walsh's comments were prophetic: the very next day, two more horses died on the Cheltenham track.

Drugs, both legal and illegal, are as ubiquitous at the racetrack as silly-looking hats are at Ascot. Horses are often drugged to mask pain and keep them running when they should be resting or receiving treatment. Raced too young and too hard, when their bones are not up to the pounding and stress, horses used in racing endure injuries, lameness and exhaustion. Last year, Godolphin trainer Mahmood al-Zarooni was banned from racing for eight years after being found guilty of doping offences.

People who care about horses should turn their backs on the Grand National and every other race in which horses are being run to death. This cruelty will end only when the public realises that there is no such thing as a "harmless flutter" when it comes to funding the cruel and exploitative horse-racing industry.


Enjoy your flutter!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Sounds like a plan!


you saw your neighbour whipping a dog, you'd be on the phone to the police immediately, right? Of course, anyone with a shred of decency condemns hurting animals. Yet, inexplicably, some still turn a blind eye to the premeditated cruelty to horses during the Grand National, in which riders are required to carry a whip. Every year, racehorses sustain catastrophic injuries. Many pay with their lives.

When 40 skittish horses are jammed onto a treacherous obstacle course, viciously whipped, and forced into jumping, breakdowns are inevitable. Last year, only 17 – fewer than half – finished the Grand National, and while the race organisers were quick to highlight an absence of fatalities after last year's main event, they conveniently failed to mention that the same course killed two horses earlier in the week. According to research by Animal Aid in 2012, Aintree was the most lethal of all of Britain's racecourses, claiming the lives of six horses in just eight days of racing.

Treated like wind-up toys – their fragile limbs pushed to and sometimes beyond breaking point – many horses sustain fractured legs or necks or severed tendons, while others have heart attacks. Every year, hundreds of horses die on British racetracks. Thousands more are turned into dog food when they stop winning.

The mindset that horses are little more than tools to be used, abused and discarded is entrenched in the racing industry. Ruby Walsh's comment that horses are "replaceable" is deeply offensive. Horses are not unfeeling – they experience joy, anxiety, fear and affection. They are also clever and perceptive, as anyone who has seen a horse figure out how to open stable-door latches will tell you. However, Walsh's comments were prophetic: the very next day, two more horses died on the Cheltenham track.

Drugs, both legal and illegal, are as ubiquitous at the racetrack as silly-looking hats are at Ascot. Horses are often drugged to mask pain and keep them running when they should be resting or receiving treatment. Raced too young and too hard, when their bones are not up to the pounding and stress, horses used in racing endure injuries, lameness and exhaustion. Last year, Godolphin trainer Mahmood al-Zarooni was banned from racing for eight years after being found guilty of doping offences.

People who care about horses should turn their backs on the Grand National and every other race in which horses are being run to death. This cruelty will end only when the public realises that there is no such thing as a "harmless flutter" when it comes to funding the cruel and exploitative horse-racing industry.


Enjoy your flutter!

Food for thought right there Cherie,a good read,thanks for that.

[King Gizzard]

There weren't any deaths last year were there? And the one death there was wasn't to do with it being the national, would have happened if it was just jotting around in the field

[King Gizzard]

I don't bet, but I think Monbeg Dude

[joeysteele]

Usually any horse I like in a race would be better if it carried the Jockey rather than the other way round.

I guess I am no good at any gambling.

However in the Grand National sweepstake on here, oddly enough Nathan has given me the 2 horses my Dad is backing in it so I may make the effort too.

[King Gizzard]

Destiny Joey

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Will you be having a flutter on The Grand National ? and do you agree with it?



Personally,I wont and don't approve,you wouldn't believe the stick I've had because of that

BUT YOU AGREE WITH A BEAR BEING TRAPPED AND RAISED AS A HUMAN

[Kizzy]

Great post cherie! I didn't have a flutter and I don't agree with horse racing.

[smeagol]

i done it and won i had a psychic thing when i woke up that a french sounding name would win. so i had a look at the card and there was loads of em lol. but that horse name seemed like the one i heard called out so i stuck to my words for once and done it.not much money though i play small.
luckily all got home ok. very happy about that. thats the most important thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I got 4th and won £10

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I got 4th and won £10

did you have your own horse lol