[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I want to be you're gran.

she is dead

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she is dead

im sorry you're loss!.

[Ammi]

..I agree with everything Liv has said and I think that most of his charity work is unknown because he doesn't publicise it, he has his own charity trust which gives grants to various charity organisations...

[Ammi]

..also, Summer Holiday.....King Cliff..

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

Pretty sure he has been honoured by the Queen for his Charity work Sheriff.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

A very good point, and just further shows their characters, IMO their motivations were/are poles apart. Jimmy was all for show, and I'd even say he used it to facilitate access to vulnerable people - vile man. Cliff has never sought publicity for his own endeavours, the more I now think about him the more and more I admire the man.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty sure he has been honoured by the Queen for his Charity work Sheriff.

I must of missed that!, but like I said, not interest in the man or his sexual preferences.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I must of missed that!, but like I said, not interest in the man or his sexual preferences.

Why click on the thread then?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

wow, all I can say, jimmy savile was hailed a hero for his charity work and yet cliff has gone un noticed!.

It's a Christian thing. "Be not like the Hypocrites for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men". I always get the impression that Cliff Richard's a Christian first and a celebrity second. I doubt he'd ever use charity work for publicity purposes except to draw attention to the charity itself.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Why click on the thread then?

why drink?, because we both can.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

why drink?, because we both can.

You should be encouraged to click on every thread. It's amusing to see everyone school ya!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Livia

You should be encouraged to click on every thread. It's amusing to see everyone school ya!

really, opinions are like arse holes, we all have one.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

why drink?, because we both can.

Yes but I drink because I enjoy drinking

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Yes but I drink because I enjoy drinking

and I post, because I enjoy posting.

[Jake.]

Touché

[Kizzy]

I think it was his faith that kept him in the closet so long, hopefully now the Christian faith is more accepting of homosexuality more Christian homosexuals will feel they can express themselves freely.

[Z]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

really, opinions are like arse holes, we all have one.

"Opinions are like arse holes, I wanna stick my tongue way up your opinion"

Anyway, he grew up in a very different time to now and even if the UK's generally a more accepting place than it was back then; his fanbase are also from that era he grew up in - why would you want to alienate them now (or risk alienating them now) when you've already lived a lie your entire life (if he is indeed gay) - and as he says, would it matter? It wouldn't change all the records he sold or people he entertained and their memories of that, it's his personal life, and it's not like he played on the whole sexuality thing for a publicity stunt... he just decided to omit his love life from his public persona, unlike say Jessie J who played the "I'm a bisexual! Now I'm not!" card purely for her career, which is the exact opposite from what Cliff has done.

[smeagol]

Ive met him a few times. its obvious he is gay. but with his religious beliefs i doubt you will hear about it until he is gone.
it wont matter to the world if he is or isnt

[reece(:]

Who gives a sh*t

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Who gives a sh*t

his fans yu dumpling

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

First class post, perfectly stated and totally right too, I agree with every word.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

yes leave the man alone!, im not interested in the man!
made a lot of money out of music, don't think he has given a lot back in the way of charity work, or anything else for that matter.

Are you joking?
What business is it of anyone whether he donates to charity or not? Do you?
It's his money to do with as he pleases.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Cliff Richard became a star in the nineteen fifties. he's been going for decades, has a massive following and just doesn't get the credit he's due for that. He's not my cup of tea, but I can acknowledge what an amazing career he's had. Pisses me off when people take the mick. And on the gay issue, when he started in the fifties, being gay was an offence. If he is gay, he's denied it for years and it's probably become hard to admit. Of course, he might not be. What business is it of anyone? This one comment he made was probably taken out of context and sensationalised. Leave the man alone. What he does in the privacy of his own bedroom is his own business.

Not a fan personally tbh, but as you say, his careers has been amazing...he seems a sound bloke and I don't really see the need for people to take the piss

As for the question..no it wouldn't matter one bit. Good on him for not giving into the pressure of revealing details of his private life... and if he is gay and just hasnt blabbed it all over the papers for a bit of publicity like it seems the in thing to do at the moment, then even better on him.