[Ammi]

..yeah I agree, I think they’re fairly grim in general but I also think the females are as well....they seem particularly aggressive and nasty in their bitchiness...for me bitchiness can be quite comical as well but it just seems so bitter this year...Ash for me is the worst of the males, not only because of his arrogance because I also think that sometimes arrogance can be entertaining when it’s quite delusional but his just isn’t ..he said last night that if it was just the guys, they would just be sat around like they were and all chilled or words to that effect ..well that to me would make him the sort of housemate I really don’t want to see because he sees no need to ‘entertain’ and I guess that’s part of his arrogance, to think he can just sit at the smoking area and coast along with the guys....

..I think that arguments/drama etc are equally as boring though if that’s all there is...I think the problem is for me is just the lack of any entertaining housemates who aren’t entertaining only through negativity but they are actually creating interest...Aaron was kind of the ‘king’ for that but in the past there has also been others...Mark seems to come the closest to I think being the best housemate...I think there are some housemates that seem like nice people, like Christopher and Chris but atm they’re also quite bland or just not being shown enough so are kind of coming across as a bit boring...but yeah, whether with the males or female, a good housemate to me means entertaining/someone who makes me laugh or someone very interesting...not entertaining as in a fairly horrid person....

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Barker

BB14 basically just had a flawless cast overall Appreciate it even more now that we're experiencing the worst series in Big Brother history

I was just thinking that. Outside of Jemima, Sam and Sophie the rest of that cast was flawless. It was my personal favorite and even though the twists sucked and there weren't as many arguments as this year. That series made you feel so much for all of those housemates whether you loved them or hated them. And they also had so much fun in that house last year. I miss them all. Even Dexter and I ****in hated him.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

I was just thinking that. Outside of Jemima, Sam and Sophie the rest of that cast was flawless. It was my personal favorite and even though the twists sucked and there weren't as many arguments as this year. That series made you feel so much for all of those housemates whether you loved them or hated them. And they also had so much fun in that house last year. I miss them all. Even Dexter and I ****in hated him.

YES! I was literally so involved in BB14, because I felt so much for each and every housemate. I remember being so invested in each eviction and being so pumped to watch every highlights show. I miss them all too Although I personally think Jemima and Sam were great too. Remember the "my daughter died" argument she had? It was hysterical. Sophie was the only poor housemate that year really.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I do remember Sophie's "You talk outt yor arsehol" comment to Dexter. But yeah she was a **** housemate

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Drew.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week.

That's only because Ash fans (and Toya fans, must admit) wouldn't/won't stop talking about them 24/7 to even consider that there are other HMs in there.

I'm actually happy my favourite's gone now, just because I can watch the show from a non-biased point of view and kind of start over again with my choosing faves and stuff.

[MeMyselfAndI]

BB6 & BB12's males were actually better than the overall females of the cast

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

BB6 & BB12's males were actually better than the overall females of the cast

Do you mean for those respective seasons or compared to this year's girls. If so I thought that BB14 was better than this year's female cast too in my opinion.

[Brother Leon]

We had Sam and Callum just last year.

[rionablue]

its not often we agree Barker but yes definitely the worst I reckon. The guys who look any way fit are airheads, Mark and Christopher are too camp and Chris well Chris is just too laid back

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We had Sam and Callum just last year.

Cowboy Callum was a great housemate. He wasn't boring at all. I'd say along with Hazel, Dan, Gina and Dexter they were the best housemates that whole year. I can't disagree about Sam though sadly. Cool guy just on the wrong show.

[billy123]

I think the males housemates (i hate people calling them a cast) are pretty good, if anything its a poor female set of housemates that cant relax and feel comfortable with themselves they feel the need to prove themselves because of being insecure and just come across as aggressive and horrible.

The guys are pretty much just getting on with life comfortable with who they are. Willing to have a laugh with each other but defend themselves just when they have to.

If anything its a crap set of female housemates.

[Jemal]

The boys last year was crap.
Apart from the fantastic callum the great. and sam every week or two.

Apart from that the boys imo were crap.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

If you've been viewing most threads throughout the past week or two you'll have realized the rivalry between Toya & Ash, Winston and Marlon has carried into most threads, even threads that had nothing to do with those housemates, not necessarily threads created for them. They have been the most talked about all week. Yeah Jale was more involved but i wasn't comparing Christopher to her, I was just giving my example of how hes been involved. A lot of it to me sounds like you don't like any of them at all that shouldn't take away the fact they've all supplied their bits to the show. Pauline and Toya were bloody awful, but they still created talking points.

Then if you accept the talking points argument and are even listing talking points the male housemates have provided to justify their position and role in the show, why would you or did you want to get rid of people like Pauline and Toya who as you've just agreed created talking points as well? Surely by that logic we should get rid of all of the males you listed too?

I agree that the male cast isn't that bad and people like Ash, Mark, Christopher, Steven, Matthew and Chris (although he's a bit tenuous cause he had to be given a role through the Power Housemate twist) have provided things, but either you support keeping those who create the talking points in the show or not it can't be one rule for one gender and another for another

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jemal

The boys last year was crap.
Apart from the fantastic callum the great. and sam every week or two.

Apart from that the boys imo were crap.

Dexter not mentioned in your post, Sam is

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[Adamw92]

Every other male cast of C5 >>>> BB15s male cast

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Then if you accept the talking points argument and are even listing talking points the male housemates have provided to justify their position and role in the show, why would you or did you want to get rid of people like Pauline and Toya who as you've just agreed created talking points as well? Surely by that logic we should get rid of all of the males you listed too?

I agree that the male cast isn't that bad and people like Ash, Mark, Christopher, Steven, Matthew and Chris (although he's a bit tenuous cause he had to be given a role through the Power Housemate twist) have provided things, but either you support keeping those who create the talking points in the show or not it can't be one rule for one gender and another for another

This thread isn't about our favourites Jack, I've listed that Steven creates talking points, but i want to see him gone. I'm different to you, I don't want housemates in the house i dislike just because they create discussions. I'm replying to this thread that the males aren't as bad as they've been made out to be. You've just made an assumption from my post.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Josy

Ash stood up to Toya telling them all to calm the **** down, starting off the argument.
Winston and Marlon argued with Toya.
Marlon argued with Toya the next day.
Ash reacted badly to being nominated.
Steven started a showmance with Kim.
Mark went a bit mental and kicked the door.
Mark ranted in the DR about Pauline.
Mark argued with Pauline in the Kitchen.
Matthew told Helen to get a boob job for her saggy tits.
Marlon fell out the door and lay flat on his face.
Steven admitted he was interested in Kim for mag deals.
Chris was amazing with the Power and nommed Pauline

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!

[Kizzy]

Yep, to say the theme is 'power' the fellas are really weak.

[Daniel.]

Yes by far. A terrible, terrible male cast - BB13 had a pretty **** male cast too though but at least that had Benedict and Chris.

BB6 male cast > everything

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

This thread isn't about our favourites Jack, I've listed that Steven creates talking points, but i want to see him gone. I'm different to you, I don't want housemates in the house i dislike just because they create discussions. You've just made an assumption from my post.

Well that's fair enough but I've not made any assumptions...you were the first person in this thread to bring up the fact that some of the male housemates are 'providing' and creating talking points as a way of arguing that the male cast isn't that bad, so if you don't agree with the talking points argument as means of justifying a housemate's worth why did you bring it up? That's the bit I don't get

Originally Posted by Drew.

All things point towards this being C5s best male casting, It's got to the point where the males are doing so well even BB have to intervene to get rid of them. Theres no stand out yet that will be remembered like Lord Aaron, Mark is the closest but for different reasons. But every male has played a part and a role in the series so far. Whether they are likeable or not they've all produced so far.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well that's fair enough but I've not made any assumptions...you were the first person in this thread to bring up the fact that some of the male housemates are 'providing' and creating talking points as a way of arguing that the male cast isn't that bad, so if you don't agree with the talking points argument as means of justifying a housemate's worth why did you bring it up? That's the bit I don't get

Thats because the males are providing, my points were added to the whole discussion and theme of this thread. You've switched this around & taken this way out of context and you're confusing me now. I couldn't care less if the likes of Steven and Matthew were evicted tomorrow, i'm not justifying their stay because i don't really like them, my posts were describing that the males aren't as boring & as bad as the OP made out. This doesn't mean to say i like them all, its just a fact. The same way i'd bring up Pauline, Toya, Helen and Jale if this thread was aimed at females being boring/bad this year, i dont like any of those 4 and it wouldn't bother me if they were evicted, but they bring discussion to the rest of the forum.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Dexter not mentioned in your post, Sam is

post invalid~ error 404~

lol if you remember me last year you would know i dont like dexter.
Therefore your post is invalid brah.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Does anyone even remember anything Dexter said or did last year? I sure don't shows what a great character he was

[reece(:]

The males this year are awful, mostly fakes and bores. The only thing I can get behind is Mark & Matthew's friendship... otherwise, meh.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Almost none of these are talking points though. I'm sure there was RIVETING discussion over when Marlon tripped, what a ****ing deep moment!