[jet]

Originally Posted by smeagol

if people start liking this vile disgrace of a human. i will give up on people for good.
i would give in that there is any decent people left at all

if this place went helen devil worshipers i'd close my account lol

There's no accounting for tastes smeagol.

[Kizzy]

I hope she is.

[rusticgal]

People may warm to her because she has calmed down.....the only reason she has calmed down and 'seemingly' more likeable is cos she is on her final warning for being a foul mouthed goby bitch.
She is totally holding back...and all of you who are starting to like her are oblivious to this fact.

[smudgie]

Make that a very big pot of cream Videostar.
And put plenty on.

She is just vile through and through, can't find a redeeming thing about her.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Make that a very big pot of cream Videostar.
And put plenty on.

She is just vile through and through, can't find a redeeming thing about her.

Im just playing devils advocate.

[smeagol]

the way i see it. if someone can like a person thing like her.someone that vile then they are not the type of person i want to know.
we have our favs etc but that woman is evil , she is not some bitchy housemate she is a vile human being in every way.
i really dont get how anyone can truely like someone like that. it tells me a lot about people

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by smeagol

the way i see it. if someone can like a person thing like her.someone that vile then they are not the type of person i want to know.
we have our favs etc but that woman is evil , she is not some bitchy housemate she is a vile human being in every way.
i really dont get how anyone can truely like someone like that. it tells me a lot about people

Anybody would swear that she has murdered babies or something. She is loud, proud and upfront. Will tell people to their faces exactly what she think about them. I would much rather someone like that than someone who would just go off into a little group and slag me off behind my back.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Anybody would swear that she has murdered babies or something. She is loud, proud and upfront. Will tell people to their faces exactly what she think about them. I would much rather someone like that than someone who would just go off into a little group and slag me off behind my back.

Since she got the warning she has been slagging people off behind their backs. I've heard her on several occasions. Did you not hear her slagging Ashleigh off to Kim and Jale tonight and Jale laughing her fool of a head off? She's lodged firmly up Helen's ass now.
Why doesn't Helen tell Ashleigh what she thinks of her then?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by jet

Since she got the warning she has been slagging people off behind their backs. I've heard her on several occasions. Did you not hear her slagging Ashleigh off to Kim and Jale tonight and Jale laughing her fool of a head off? She's lodged firmly up Helen's ass now.
Why doesn't Helen tell Ashleigh what she thinks of her then?

I'm not saying she isn't averse to gossiping, she's a woman, it's what you all do... /sarcasm

What i'm saying is that she is not afraid to face up to somebody if the need arises. For that, I respect her.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I'm not saying she isn't averse to gossiping, she's a woman, it's what you all do... /sarcasm

What i'm saying is that she is not afraid to face up to somebody if the need arises. For that, I respect her.

If the need arises? She faces up to people for the most trivial of things. And you respect her vile rants? My my.
I'm a man too, by the way.

[Achilles]

And so it begins

[rionablue]

I don't think Helen will be liked when she leaves the house. She will probably get the most boos on final night than anyone has ever got in a final. I don't like her and I thought she was awful the first few weeks. I don't like her voice and I don't like the fact that she can be vicious when bitching about anyone. However after tonights episode I think I dislike Ashleigh more. Helen has bitched to peoples faces in many instances and told them how she feels about them. Ashleigh should be a big girl and tell whichever housemates she is bitching about with Danielle, just how she feels, and while she is at it try and mingle with at least SOME of the ****ing housemates

[AarynGriesfan]

She's a horrible human being who the voting public will never like.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by AarynGriesfan

She's a horrible human being who the voting public will never like.

I agree with you but i can't help grinning when i read a statement like that written by someone called 'AarynGriesfan'.

[psychtracker]

The odds of Helen winning are absolutely miniscule. I'd say there's at least a 50% chance she's either gonna 'walk', get ejected by BB for abusive behavior or lose the finals ticket.

If she does make it to the finals, on 'best behaviour', for the last week or so...she may pick up some votes for 'entertainment value', but i can't see her doing better than around 4th or 5th. Way too much baggage, plus we all know as long as she stays there..there will be many more abusive pissy rants to come.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

The odds of Helen winning are absolutely miniscule. I'd say there's at least a 50% chance she's either gonna 'walk', get ejected by BB for abusive behavior or lose the finals ticket.

If she does make it to the finals, on 'best behaviour', for the last week or so...she may pick up some votes for 'entertainment value', but i can't see her doing better than around 4th or 5th. Way too much baggage, plus we all know as long as she stays there..there will be many more abusive pissy rants to come.

..yeah, I fairly much agree with this...she went into the house with so many pre-conceived opinions from the public and she could have tried to change those a bit... but it's like she's put two fingers up to everyone since she's been in there..so I think the public are going to do the same to her as soon as they get the opportunity...

[mrflibble]

I'm liking her less and less as the show goes on and she's been my least favourite since a few days in. She's consistently horrible and hypocritical and boring. Really cannot stand the woman. It's really unfortunate that she has to be the loudest person in the house, it would be so much better off without her.

[Patricia4]

I could never warm to her I didn't like her at the start and don't like her now.

[Northern Monkey]

Yep,I have that feeling too,I think it could possibly have been planned from the start.

[Razor]

I can't see it. Everyone I know who watches the show hates her.

[MarcusMel]

One of the biggest problems about this forum and what people write is that they only see and hear what conforms to their knowledge and belief system. Reframing a viewpoint requires the ability to see the outside view looking in. Not an easy thing to do for people who are systematic or non-empathetic.

I like the phrase: People believe what they fear to be true or what they want to be true.

Why is Helen's former job despised? Could it be the fear that it is true for all young women one way or another, rather than seeing 'the job' as a way of confirming two people of unity of relationship, purpose and emotional satisfaction?

There was in 28th June BBOTPsych a very interesting clip of Helen at first saying the type of person she imagined herself to be followed by examples of her not being that person. From the outside empathetic people understand that she behaves opposite to how she would like to be because she feels as if the world is spitting on her and is fighting to feel internal contentment with herself.

Her constant feeling of inadequacy is her weakness unless something in BB turns this around then the public are probably always going to dislike (hate!) her. One of the biggest disadvantages she has at the moment are the available role models.

IF she gets to know actor Chris and starts the deep conversation talk then there is some hope that she will learn some useful coping patterns.

[psychtracker]

One thing that irks me every season on these forums, is when people selectively pick a housemate they dislike, and then go on about how they're basically nutters, mentally unsound..shouldn't be in the house et al.. But, in the case of Helen (after watching around 20x UK/Aussie BB Seasons), to my mind..she's right at the top of the tree..of a small handful of housemates who really should not be in the house. Way too much rage and other issues going on there. In the past, those housemates who are a bit close to the edge, have been evicted..walked or booted. ie. Helen obviously would've already gone by now (evicted) - under normal circumstances. But her having a ticket to the final, i find a bit worrisome. I think they probably should've booted her after the Matthew incident, she's too risky.

[jet]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

One of the biggest problems about this forum and what people write is that they only see and hear what conforms to their knowledge and belief system.Reframing a viewpoint requires the ability to see the outside view looking in. Not an easy thing to do for people who are systematic or non-empathetic.

I like the phrase: People believe what they fear to be true or what they want to be true.

Why is Helen's former job despised? Could it be the fear that it is true for all young women one way or another, rather than seeing 'the job' as a way of confirming two people of unity of relationship, purpose and emotional satisfaction?

There was in 28th June BBOTPsych a very interesting clip of Helen at first saying the type of person she imagined herself to be followed by examples of her not being that person. From the outside empathetic people understand that she behaves opposite to how she would like to be because she feels as if the world is spitting on her and is fighting to feel internal contentment with herself.

Her constant feeling of inadequacy is her weakness unless something in BB turns this around then the public are probably always going to dislike (hate!) her. One of the biggest disadvantages she has at the moment are the available role models.

IF she gets to know actor Chris and starts the deep conversation talk then there is some hope that she will learn some useful coping patterns.

So if people think she is just a nasty piece of work they aren't empathetic? Wow. I had no idea that we were supposed to analyse the HM's psyches so that we find excuses for their behavior and understand and sympathize with them all.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

So if people think she is just a nasty piece of work they aren't empathetic? Wow. I had no idea that we were supposed to analyse the HM's psyches so that we find excuses for their behavior and understand and sympathize with them all.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by jet

So if people think she is just a nasty piece of work they aren't empathetic? Wow. I had no idea that we were supposed to analyse the HM's psyches so that we find excuses for their behavior and understand and sympathize with them all.

That is not a correct logical conclusion.

As I said, you will believe what you want to be true or what you fear to be true, seeing truth is very hard.