[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by wannashag

I think they're both wary of each other and have been from the start. I don't think I've seen them have a single conversation with each other.

Helen hasn't been afraid to say anything to the other housemates but said nothing to Ashleigh.

I think Helen is more fearful of Ashleigh then Ashleigh is of Helen.

So why hasn't Ashleigh faced Helen and told her what she thinks instead of whispering in corners or the DR,lol,Helen isn't afraid of Ashleigh,more that BB has already warned her about her behaviour,

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I like both as they're offering a lot to the series.

Good old Mock telling it like it is

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So why hasn't Ashleigh faced Helen and told her what she thinks instead of whispering in corners or the DR,lol,Helen isn't afraid of Ashleigh,more that BB has already warned her about her behaviour,

As I said in the first line of my post, they're both wary of each other, but as time goes on Ashleigh is becoming aware that Helen is afraid of her and is not going to confront her and that's making Ashleigh become more confident and more outspoken.

I don't know why Helen has been wary of Ashleigh, she's had no problem from the very start to say what she likes to the other housemates, but she hasn't said a dickie bird to Ashleigh.

It's just my opinion of how I'm seeing it at the moment, I could be totally wrong but I think Helen fears her.

[Jords]

Poll isnt specific enough for me.

Love
Like
Ok < Ashleigh
Meh
Dislike
Hate
Detest < Helen

[Hofman]

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by wannashag

As I said in the first line of my post, they're both wary of each other, but as time goes on Ashleigh is becoming aware that Helen is afraid of her and is not going to confront her and that's making Ashleigh become more confident and more outspoken.

I don't know why Helen has been wary of Ashleigh, she's had no problem from the very start to say what she likes to the other housemates, but she hasn't said a dickie bird to Ashleigh.

It's just my opinion of how I'm seeing it at the moment, I could be totally wrong but I think Helen fears her.

But as I said,i don't think Helen is wary of Ashleigh,but she IS aware she has to watch herself and what she says because BB has already warned her and even Helen is aware of Ashleighs age.I really don't think its Ashleigh Helen is wary of but BBs wrath

[LemonPen]

Originally Posted by Hofman

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

This

[M X]

Ashleigh >>> Helen

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Hofman

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

Agreed.

[mrflibble]

I like Ashleigh, don't like Helen.

[AarynGriesfan]

I love Ashleigh and dislike Helen, but they both need to stay for entertainment sake. Best rivalry in years!

[Patricia4]

I don't like Helen

[Rob4]

I dislike both of them, but Helen does at least make me laugh sometimes. Ashleigh just comes across as being so negative all of the time.

[HBB1508]

I dislike both of them.

[Ellen]

Helen has made me laugh, Ashleigh has not so it would be Helen.

[Vanessa]

Ashleigh is just like one of those mean girls off that movie. Sly and manipulative. There's absolutely nothing about her that i like.

[jet]

Originally Posted by wannashag

I think they're both wary of each other and have been from the start. I don't think I've seen them have a single conversation with each other.

Helen hasn't been afraid to say anything to the other housemates but said nothing to Ashleigh.

I think Helen is more fearful of Ashleigh then Ashleigh is of Helen.

This ^^^
I dislike Helen and Ashleigh is my 4th favourite, after Mark, Matthew and Chris.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Hofman

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

Great post hofmangot it in a nutshell

[Vanessa]

Asheligh says she's miserable because of Helen. So if Helen was not there she would not be sly and manipulative? As if!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Hofman

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

It was Helen who was shown giving him support, doesn't mean no -one else did. I'd be surprised if all of the girls didn't have a word with him in fact. They can't show every scene of the aftermath of his speech.

If Helen wasn't there, it would be a happier house. This was confirmed on last nights HL's when the HM's were saying it was nice 'with just us' and not wanting them to come back!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

It was Helen who was shown giving him support, doesn't mean no -one else did. I'd be surprised if all of the girls didn't have a word with him in fact. They can't show every scene of the aftermath of his speech.

If Helen wasn't there, it would be a happier house. This was confirmed on last nights HL's when the HM's were saying it was nice 'with just us' and not wanting them to come back!

Helen herself even thought the house was better without her there

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Asheligh says she's miserable because of Helen. So if Helen was not there she would not be sly and manipulative? As if!

Be very wary of people like this.... She's miserable as she can't control helen like some of the others is all.

[smeagol]

Originally Posted by Hofman

I have to remember that when Chris did his speech it wasn't his friend Ashleigh that offered support it was Helen.

Ashleigh has become so negative, it's worse than Helen for me as she is being 2 faced and manipulative. She hasn't made me laugh or feel any emotional attachment.

So given the choice I would rather keep Helen

are people really that naive , there were 5 girls in that room ashleigh is friends with chris do you think they havn't spoken. do people really buy this im a good person act that all started with the final warning. and the blatant bb edits to show another side cause of the backlash they are getting to remove her.

see helens tears during chris's speech she was thinking of her self not him
then see ashleighs tears during his speech. they were real emotion.
thats the difference between good and evil. one is woe is me the other is compassion

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Be very wary of people like this.... She's miserable as she can't control helen like some of the others is all.

What others does she control?

On the contrary, Helen can't control Ashleigh like she can the others...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

What others does she control?

On the contrary, Helen can't control Ashleigh like she can the others...

danielle and matthew are dancing like puppets to her tune, and the chrisses are pretty much sucked in too.