[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Listen, I wanted marlon to stay, but BB can do whatever they want

If people just let them they can. But you know what, they got in trouble when they did what they did with Nikki...

And when you have a person saying they want to go, then all the people who would have liked to have gone in, and maybe even auditioned are rightly peeved

Come off it. Part of the reason she wants to go is why so people want to switch off... helen's free pass to the final.

I dont want these new idiots to be able to evict anyone but please stop saying Ashleigh is a winner

She has never had a chance in HELL!

Anyone who is topping every popularity poll out there by the distance she is had a very good chance. That is the simple and obvious truth.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Tellymix is the most accurate poll, it's got every eviction right basically [bar Ash v Matthew], but all of BB13 & BB14 was right including the final's, with Luke A & Sam winning [Despite other forums all having Deana, and Dexter/Gina as winning]

Ashleigh - 28%
Chris - 23%
Mark - 16%
Winston - 8%

The top 3 is a certainty if it was vote to win right now...

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

Of the people you mentioned, only 2 actually won, so not really getting your point................

The winner of each series was mentioned there, so how do you come to the view that only 2 won? Every one I mentioned was either the winner or top 3.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

The uncrowned winner? Pauline topped the popularity polls does that mean she is the uncrowned winner too?

Also weren't you saying in lots of threads the past few days that as a fan of Ashleigh you paid money voting for Jale to keep Ashleigh in and were extremely pissed off at the producers because there was a chance she could be out?

Have you completely changed your mind about all that now then?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why are you clapping an incorrect post? Pauline was not winning all the polls

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

In the first week. When anyone can top the polls. Ashleigh has been topping them for the last 2 or 3 weeks.



Well yes, you see, they've so utterly rigged the show now, what's the point? There was a part of me that wouldn't have minded seeing her go on Monday. The very idea the person who is topping every popularity poll going out because they've decided the voters no longer count would be par for the course this series.

But you keep on defending this crap. TIBB will be the last site standing soon enough. BB Spy must be fed up with it all after launching that petition. Total Big Brother's gone.

Who cares if she is topping the popularity poll, the forums and fan sites are not the voice of the majority of the voters, that much is clear with the way the evictions have been going since the beginning..

The fact is you were trying make a point the other day because you and others had voted tactically to keep Ashleigh in now you say you would be happy with her gone, that is a completely hypocritical way of looking at things.

I don't disagree with you that the public not having a say in two evictions is pathetic but that's nothing at all to do with Ashleigh and you going round saying they are manipulating the show to stop her from staying/winner whatever is getting tedious.

There is no reason for them to care enough about Ashleigh or any other housemate for that matter to come up with these massive twists to suit an agenda.

The reason I defend them and say it isn't rigged/fixed/whatever is because they gave us the info in advance, everyone was informed last week there would be an eviction and that the public wouldn't vote, with vote to evict they are well within their rights to do that, we were told there would be new housemates but nope that wasn't good enough, people started going on about a secret house and the producers deciding on whether to use it or not depending on who was evicted blah blah blah, it was all bull****, there was always going to be an immediate eviction, no secret house and 3 newbies it's as simple as that.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Why are you clapping an incorrect post? Pauline was not winning all the polls

I was talking about TiBB.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

We need to keep her in though for the dynamic with Helen.

There wont be any Mock,it would have happened before now if it was going to happen.

[MeMyselfAndI]

oh, I'm talking about the public & in general, where Ashleigh would easily place in the top 3

I found BBspy week 2 poll [Can't find tellymix's], but that is the next accurate

Jale 34.5%
Kimberly 17.6%
Chris 13.4%
Christopher 9.1%
Toya 3.6%
Ashleigh 3.4%
Matthew 3.0%
Mark 2.9%
Danielle 2.7%
Helen 2.5%
Ash 2.4%
Winston 2.3%
Marlon 1.1%
Pauline 0.8%
Steven 0.6%

I don't think she would have been in the top 5 in the TiBB main poll either tbh........ Think thats an overexaggeration

[MeMyselfAndI]

At least if she goes we can claim she would have easily won I supose, considering how she is one of the public's choice if you check all social media/all big brother polls/youtube comments

[Josy]

Um anyone that goes you could claim they could have won, doesn't make it true but if it makes you feel better go right ahead.

[MeMyselfAndI]

TiBB Poll, Josy

Week 2 - favorite housemate

Jale 24.3%
Chris 22.0%
Kimberly 15.2%
Christopher 10.2%
Winston 5.4%
Mathew 4.2%
Mark 2.9%
Ashleigh 2.6%
Danielle 2.6%
Toya 2.2%
Helen 2.0%
Ash 1.9%
Marlon 1.7%
Pauline 1.6%
Steven 1.3%

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

Who cares if she is topping the popularity poll, the forums and fan sites are not the voice of the majority of the voters, that much is clear with the way the evictions have been going since the beginning..

Really? The only eviction Tellymix called wrong was Matthew/Ash. And as has been pointed out the people who have topped the polls in the latter half of their series have included Aaron, Deana, Adam, Luke A, Gina, Dexter and Sam. Every one of those names finished top 3 or won.

The fact is you were trying make a point the other day because you and others had voted tactically to keep Ashleigh in now you say you would be happy with her gone, that is a completely hypocritical way of looking at things.

It's not hypocritical at all. On a show that is now so heavily manipulated it would almost be the best thing for the person you're supporting to go out that way.

I don't disagree with you that the public not having a say in two evictions is pathetic but that's nothing at all to do with Ashleigh and you going round saying they are manipulating the show to stop her from staying/winner whatever is getting tedious.

So do you honestly think they didn't make the decision to do what they did on Monday knowing full well what the result was going to be? DO you seriously believe they are not pulling these stunts with certain outcomes in their mind? You're a very naive person if you do.

There is no reason for them to care enough about Ashleigh or any other housemate for that matter to come up with these massive twists to suit an agenda.

The reason I defend them and say it isn't rigged/fixed/whatever is because they gave us the info in advance.

They didn't confirm anything until the very last moment. They even didn't do the nominations live in case it didn't work out the way they were expecting.

I find it hilarious that the viewers of this show are so easily taken in by them.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

TiBB Poll, Josy

Jale 24.3%
Chris 22.0%
Kimberly 15.2%
Christopher 10.2%
Winston 5.4%
Mathew 4.2%
Mark 2.9%
Ashleigh 2.6%
Danielle 2.6%
Toya 2.2%
Helen 2.0%
Ash 1.9%
Marlon 1.7%
Pauline 1.6%
Steven 1.3%

What even is that? and what are you referring to?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Josy

Um anyone that goes you could claim they could have won, doesn't make it true but if it makes you feel better go right ahead.

well nope, as the public have no say, so a very popular housemate is likely to be evicted, and I wouldn't claim that if Danielle went [my favorite]

but the 4 frontrunners are atm, by fact:
Mark, Ashleigh, Chris & Winston

and if any of them are evicted this Friday, ALL had a very good chance of winning, just basic thoughts/logic

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

Um anyone that goes you could claim they could have won, doesn't make it true but if it makes you feel better go right ahead.

Yes you could, but what I'm saying is that a person who is topping every popularity poll is likely to go because of a twist the producers knew would have a strong chance of leading to that result. Just like they knew nominations would probably lead to Marlon being evicted (though they kept their options open just in case)

Can you really not see what they're doing?

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Josy

What even is that? and what are you referring to?

The main thisisbigbrother poll on the front page on week 2, the week she was evicted, you claimed she was topping the thisisbigbrother poll's, she was not. [I don't refer to poxy polls on the forum with like 10 votes]

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Why are you clapping an incorrect post? Pauline was not winning all the polls

It's not incorrect. Pauline was most popular and favourite to win in week 1. Week 2 saw all of that fall off a cliff. So Josy's post was correct, "current" popularity means nothing in terms of winning. We're only halfway, anything can happen within 1 week never mind 5.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Really? The only eviction Tellymix called wrong was Matthew/Ash. And as has been pointed out the people who have topped the polls in the latter half of their series have included Aaron, Deana, Adam, Luke A, Gina, Dexter and Sam. Every one of those names finished top 3 or won.



It's not hypocritical at all. It's fans of a person on a show that is now so heavily manipulated it would almost be the best thing for the person you're supporting to go out that way.




So do you honestly think they didn't make the decision to do what they did on Monday knowing full well what the result was going to be? DO you seriously believe they are not pulling these stunts with certain outcomes in their mind? You're a very naive person if you do.



They didn't confirm anything until the very last moment. They even didn't do the nominations live in case it didn't work out the way they were expecting.

I find it hilarious that the viewers of this show are so easily taken in by them.

No I don't believe they made the decision of what to do on Monday because we had been sent information, confirmed information before that not really sure what you aren't getting there tbh. And I'm not naive.

Can you not understand how your point about noms isnt making any sense? they done the noms before hand because they had no time, regardless of whether they were face to face or not it was going to be the same outcome

My point still stands that you saying they are manipulating this show around Ashleigh to stop her from winning is absolutely ridiculous.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

The main thisisbigbrother poll on the front page on week 2, the week she was evicted, you claimed she was topping the thisisbigbrother poll's, she was not. [I don't refer to poxy polls on the forum with like 10 votes]

I never claimed Pauline was topping anything on the week she was evicted, maybe you need to read my posts again.

IIRC Pauline topped the favourite poll and the profile favourites on the first week of the show.

[Marsh.]

What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?

She was nothing but wallpaper for 3 weeks so your presumptions that she could win in another 5 weeks is laughable.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Josy

No I don't believe they made the decision of what to do on Monday because we had been sent information, confirmed information before that not really sure what you aren't getting there tbh. And I'm not naive.

They knew Marlon was going to get the most nominations ever since he pressed the button! FFS.

Can you not understand how your point about noms isnt making any sense? they done the noms before hand because they had no time, regardless of whether they were face to face or not it was going to be the same outcome

Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact that the decision to do it was made when they knew full well Marlon was the one most likely to get them.

My point still stands that you saying they are manipulating this show around Ashleigh to stop her from winning is absolutely ridiculous.

Really? So they send in 3 new housemates, giventhem the power to evict whoever they want, when there's a girl in there who keeps saying she wants to go? You don't see where that's likely to lead?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?

She was nothing but wallpaper for 3 weeks so your presumptions that she could win in another 5 weeks is laughable.

I have been asking that too

To say the producers are manipulating the entire show around her to prevent her from staying or winning is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

I actually can't believe people truly think that

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What exactly do the producers benefit from manipulating the show to prevent Ashleigh from winning?

Well I don't know... Given that there was a petition to stop them from doing this sort of thing with evictions/the public vote and they've instead decided to do it twice, maybe they just get a kick out of rubbing the fans noses in it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Well I don't know...

See, you're crying about conspiracy theories that you can't even justify.