[Rob!]

Plus people seem to be forgetting that it was for a laugh. If she was trying to impress, she'd have come up with better lyrics than "I'm on the ground I'm on the ground. My boobs are out and in your face"

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by sampvt

desperate wanabee attempt at fame. Sounded ****e and like any other kareoke night at the pub. She isnt anything special and looks bloody awful.

Took the words right outta my mouth.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I know some people really do spew hateful hurtful comments like they are far more superior to others.

Also known as cyber bullies.

Oh come off it..it's hardly cyber bullying, the worst anyone has said in this thread is she is a wannabe.

Nothing nasty, spiteful or hurtful about that if that's what they think then why let it bother you? hm's know they will be judged by all the minute the enter the house.

I'm sure if people wanted to watch someone singing on tv then they could watch the many tv shows that are specifically for that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

Oh come off it..it's hardly cyber bullying, the worst anyone has said in this thread is she is a wannabe.

Nothing nasty, spiteful or hurtful about that if that's what they think then why let it bother you? hm's know they will be judged by all the minute the enter the house.

I'm sure if people wanted to watch someone singing on tv then they could watch the many tv shows that are specifically for that.

So if someone said this about you you wouldn't call it cyber bullying?

You're a desperate wanabee, you sound ****e and you look bloody awful you wouldnt feel that was a case of cyber bullying?

All those things have been said in this thread and its just toxic.

But ok you carry on thinking that those words are'nt spiteful or hurtful.

[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

So if someone said this about you you wouldn't call it cyber bullying?

You're a desperate wanabee, you sound ****e and you look bloody awful you wouldnt feel that was a case of cyber bullying?

All those things have been said in this thread and its just toxic.

But ok you carry on thinking that those words are'nt spiteful or hurtful.

forum members aren't in the house to be judged though, the housemates are. plus they don't have a clue what is being said so how can it even possibly be considered as bullying?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

So if someone said this about you you wouldn't call it cyber bullying?

You're a desperate wanabee, you sound ****e and you look bloody awful you wanted feel that was a case of cyber bullying?

All those things have been said in this thread and its just toxic.

But ok you carry on thinking that those words are'ent spiteful or hurtful.

I don't think people giving their opinion on a housemates singing is cyber bullying no, it's not about me and it's a ridiculous comparison because I'm not in the house so there is no need for me to answer that.

There has been a lot worse said on here over the years about housemates so to claim that calling someone a wannabe or saying their singing is awful is cyber bullying is laughable IMO

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Sophiee

forum members aren't in the house to be judged though, the housemates are. plus they don't have a clue what is being said so how can it even possibly be considered as bullying?

You think the housemates don't scower the forums after leaving the house to see what's been said about them?

They will see all of these comments on forums and fansites so yes it is.

I know i'm morally in the right and I don't tend to call housemates vicious names but if it brings others enjoyment then carry on doing so

Its just not for me and I think its a horrible quality to have when you judge someone on their looks and mock what they do for a career.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

I don't think people giving their opinion on a housemates singing is cyber bullying no, it's not about me and it's a ridiculous comparison because I'm not in the house so there is no need for me to answer that.

There has been a lot worse said on here over the years about housemates so to claim that calling someone a wannabe or saying their singing is awful is cyber bullying is laughable IMO

Comments have been made about her looking awful.

Making derogatory comments on someones appearance is cyber bullying.

You seemed to have ignored that part.

I gave you a question on how you would feel if you read those words about you and no answer? The obvious answer is you would not feel good to read someone basically calling you ugly.

Just because worse things have been said on the forum that doesn't make it any better lol if anything it makes the forum look very chavvy.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Comments have been made about her looking awful.

Making derogatory comments on someones appearance is cyber bullying.

You seemed to have ignored that part.

Just because worse things have been said on the forum that doesn't make it any better lol if anything it makes the forum look very chavvy.

No you are clearly taking the words cyber bullying and running with it here tbh.

People are giving their opinion, if that involves her looks or career whatever then that's up to them as long as it's not over the top hate posts then it's within the forum rules (I'm personally not really one for commenting on that kinda thing) but its only their opinion, if they were repeatedly bashing her looks every single time they posted then it could possibly be classed as cyber bullying at a long stretch but otherwise they are judging the housemates like every single person does that comes on here to discuss BB they just choose to do it in that way.

Cyber Bullying isn't a throwaway comment/opinion, it's repeated harassment so it's actually pretty insulting for you to accuse people in this thread of bullying a housemate for dissing her singing especially when the minute those people walked into the BB house they knew they would be judged on every little thing btw.

Oh and in reply to your edit.. you tried turning the discussion personal that is why I never answered the question because it's a pointless comparison and invalid point.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

No you are clearly taking the words cyber bullying and running with it here tbh.

People are giving their opinion, if that involves her looks or career whatever then that's up to them as long as it's not over the top hate posts then it's within the forum rules (I'm personally not really one for commenting on that kinda thing) but its only their opinion, if they were repeatedly bashing her looks every single time they posted then it could possibly be classed as cyber bullying at a long stretch but otherwise they are judging the housemates like every single person does that comes on here to discuss BB they just choose to do it in that way.

Cyber Bullying isn't a throwaway comment/opinion, it's repeated harassment so it's actually pretty insulting for you to accuse people in this thread of bullying a housemate for dissing her singing especially when the minute those people walked into the BB house they knew they would be judged on every little thing btw.

Oh and in reply to your edit.. you tried turning the discussion personal that is why I never answered the question because it's a pointless comparison and invalid point.

I whole heartedly believe that commenting on a housemates appearance is out of line I have a 13 year old brother who found out people had been posting about him on facebook. Not directly to him but he found out and he absolutely felt the lowest of the low, bullied, attacked and belittled. It wasn't said to his face but about him and that's what happens on the forums.

Perhaps that's why I have such a strong opinion on the matter and it does offend me when people post unnecessary nasty comments based on appearance especially when it has nothing to do with the actual point of the thread its totally off topic and posted to just be nasty.

If you agree with it that's fine but I think I morally am in the right but that's just my opinion.

Lets agree to disagree yeah?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

I whole heartedly believe that commenting on a housemates appearance is out of line I have a 13 year old brother who found out people had been posting about him on facebook. Not directly to him but he found out and he absolutely felt the lowest of the low, bullied, attacked and belittled. It wasn't said to his face but about him and that's what happens on the forums.

Perhaps that's why I have such a strong opinion on the matter and it does offend me when people post unnecessary nasty comments based on appearance especially when it has nothing to do with the actual point of the thread its totally off topic and posted to just be nasty.

If you agree with it that's fine but I think I morally am in the right but that's just my opinion.

Lets agree to disagree yeah?

I actually don't agree with insulting a housemates physical appearance to be honest and when I see it happen a lot of the time it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable but I suppose that's just some peoples way of showing their dislike for that person or something, I don't really know.

I don't have a problem with negative comments about someone's 'talents' though because that's all just opinions and if Zoe is as used to the showbiz industry as what's been posted then I'm sure she will be thick skinned enough to deal with criticism.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Josy

I actually don't agree with insulting a housemates physical appearance to be honest and when I see it happen a lot of the time it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable but I suppose that's just some peoples way of showing their dislike for that person or something, I don't really know.

I don't have a problem with negative comments about someone's 'talents' though because that's all just opinions and if Zoe is as used to the showbiz industry as what's been posted then I'm sure she will be thick skinned enough to deal with criticism.

Yeah totally with the talent thing, I think it just makes people look slightly bitter when saying someone cant sing or is talentless when they have travelled the world as a lead in a massive musical.....Actually several musicals.

They don't actually believe she cant sing I believe they just like hating on people for any reason and if someone has a talent its the best way to insult that.

I just have a problem with people judging people on their appearance and its been happening for years with people calling Josie a fat bitch and Jade a pig its just out of order and has nothing to do with who they are.

A person doesn't choose to look like that so judge them on their personality that's what BB is all about.

Sorry to get deep lol but its a sensitive issue and people just throwing it out there like its ok isn't on.

[Pete.]

all these long responses

[Headie]

I think part of the reason for the rise in hate posts these last few years are to do with Vote to Evict. It makes us look for the bad qualities in HMs so we have a reason to evict them, instead of looking for the positive qualities so we can vote to save them.

I agree with Daniel Lewis's posts in here tbh. I've said it before and I'll say it again, HMs sign up to be judged on their character and personality, not their appearance. This isn't Britain's Next Top Model, it's Big Brother. If we voted/felt differently towards HMs based on looks then it would just be a pointless show.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

all these long responses

Welcome to a discussion that doesn't consist of one liners and gifs Pete

[Josy]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Yeah totally with the talent thing, I think it just makes people look slightly bitter when saying someone cant sing or is talentless when they have travelled the world as a lead in a massive musical.....Actually several musicals.

They don't actually believe she cant sing I believe they just like hating on people for any reason and if someone has a talent its the best way to insult that.

I just have a problem with people judging people on their appearance and its been happening for years with people calling Josie a fat bitch and Jade a pig its just out of order and has nothing to do with who they are.

A person doesn't choose to look like that so judge them on their personality that's what BB is all about.

Sorry to get deep lol but its a sensitive issue and people just throwing it out there like its ok isn't on.

Yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said there.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

She has a really good voice, she was only messing about adlibbing because they asked her to. Im sorry but the fact she is being called a desperate, wannabe, karaoke singer and Bianca isn't when she was the grinding with her tits out really says it all lol.

I think the desperate wannabe in this situation is Bianca.

Zoe isn't a wannabe she has a decent career

Exactly!! How people can call Zoe a desperate cringey wannabe because she was singing while Biannca was stripping and lapdancing on tv is absolutely beyond me!

Surely the real issue with that clip was that someone was stripping on tv, not singing?!

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Welcome to a discussion that doesn't consist of one liners and gifs Pete

Yes because I've never been in one of those

[Headie]

Not my valid post going unnoticed so Josy and Pete can have some 'banter' together

[Benji_]

I found it hilarious haha

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Exactly!! How people can call Zoe a desperate cringey wannabe because she was singing while Biannca was stripping and lapdancing on tv is absolutely beyond me!

Surely the real issue with that clip was that someone was stripping on tv, not singing?!

And many like that!! mainly men i think.

[mizzy25]

I thought she had a good voice and it made the whole situation a bit more humouros, good on u zoe

[Razor]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Exactly!! How people can call Zoe a desperate cringey wannabe because she was singing while Biannca was stripping and lapdancing on tv is absolutely beyond me!

Surely the real issue with that clip was that someone was stripping on tv, not singing?!

You can have two people craving attention at the same time. One person doesn't cancel out the other and yes Bianca has done far worst than Zoe but that's besides the point.

I honestly didnt realise she was told to sing and just thought she would start singing any old crap for attention. At first her voice sounded nice but as it went on it started to grate and the words were just nonsense. I just wanted her to stop. There was also another clip (possible on botts) where she was also singing again, hence the thread.

Lets be honest Zoe is a singer by trade so is going to try and promote herself in the house. She is there just as others are to promote herself and get into the public eye. I just dont want to see her singing every night.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Razor

You can have two people craving attention at the same time. One person doesn't cancel out the other and yes Bianca has done far worst than Zoe but that's besides the point.

I honestly didnt realise she was told to sing and just thought she would start singing any old crap for attention. At first her voice sounded nice but as it went on it started to grate and the words were just nonsense. I just wanted her to stop. There was also another clip (possible on botts) where she was also singing again, hence the thread.

Lets be honest Zoe is a singer by trade so is going to try and promote herself in the house. She is there just as others are to promote herself and get into the public eye. I just dont want to see her singing every night.

Shes been in there 4 days and been shown singing for about 2 minutes.

[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Shes been in there 4 days and been shown singing for about 2 minutes.

I was literally about to post something like this, it's barely been made a focal point at all.