[LukeB]

love chris, i dont blame him! he probs want no one after him!

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I agree Ruby I loved him but tonight was just too much, as much and all as it is a game prostrating himself in front of Hel to save himself is a step too far

I hate to say it.....but he did come across as cringey

Saying that i do still like him and loved his chat re Steven in the diary room

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I hate to say it.....but he did come across as cringey

Saying that i do still like him and loved his chat re Steven in the diary room

his DR is still immense

[Rageofangels]

He's just not very interesting in the house, and doesn't stand up for himself. However his diary room comments are gold, and for that alone he should win.

[Apenguin]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Do not trust this man. His diary room entries are very well thought out, he ingratiates himself with others by bitching about who he thinks he can get away with.

I thought his Diary room chats at first were funny..Now boring everything he says or does is for self Gratification!

Originally Posted by sampvt

His convo with ash has done him a load of harm. He is a real player but he is not only playing the game, he is trying to flip Pav and make his final pass easier. I cant wait to see the fall out if he is overturned.

I don't like how Chris has set his sights on Pav the guy at least deserves a chance, I like a housemate who plays the game I don't have a problem with that! But Chris has spotted something weaker in Pav & he has gone for the Jugular vein!

[Northern Monkey]

Acting

[CaudleHalbard]

Chris is trying to make himself popular by dissing Pav.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by sampvt

He has to be on Corrie after this for sure.

Tyrone's Brother he never knew he had.

[LukeB]

big brother is a game show

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

big brother is a game show

And like all games its not whether you win, its how you play the game. Using tactics is game playing and acceptable. Telling lies or using subterfuge is cheating and winning by cheating isn't allowed.

Chris has crossed over from tactics to cheating now by using false emotion which amount to deception and is called cheating.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

And like all games its not whether you win, its how you play the game. Using tactics is game playing and acceptable. Telling lies or using subterfuge is cheating and winning by cheating isn't allowed.

Chris has crossed over from tactics to cheating now by using false emotion which amount to deception and is called cheating.

what ever

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

what ever

Whoops, someone cant hack it. Im only saying what everyone else is. constructive criticism is healthy.

[MojoNixon]

Biggest gameplayer...how? He can analyze other housemates? Helen, Ash, Mark, Pav, Ashleigh, Zoe, Winston ain't gameplayers???

[Bedouin]

He's a fairly genuine, nice guy. He doesn't express his gripes toward the right people though imo, he should be more upfront (without being confrontational). It's quite irritating how he'll complain about someone and then act pleasantly around them.

[vixenk99]

Originally Posted by Bedouin

He's a fairly genuine, nice guy. He doesn't express his gripes toward the right people though imo, he should be more upfront (without being confrontational). It's quite irritating how he'll complain about someone and then act pleasantly around them.

I do agree with this but (there's always a but) having to live with people 24/7 has got to be tough. I think I'd do the same. No matter how much I disliked a person, I would be pleasant and civil for the sake of getting thru each day.

[mrflibble]

Why is it not ok for people to bitch about people they don't like? Whether it's Helen, Ashleigh, Chris or anyone else. It's just a little harmless bitch.

I don't consider it game playing to want to get along with people you're stuck in a house with 24/7. I think he genuinely wants to see the good side of everyone and get to know that good side. He's never tried to manipulate anyone or backstab any of his friends. He's never bullied or been nasty to anyone. I think Chris is treating the house as a workplace and trying to be cordial to everyone.

And if you look at the context for his DR about Steve, it was after they discovered that Steven was going to nominate them, as Chris explained spot on. And he was never nasty about him either, he called him a 'plonker'; he could've easily have just called him a dick or similar, it was a 'friendly' insult. His comments with Ash were then after Steven got evicted and Steve's friends were emotional. Unlike Steven's gang, he is able to feel sympathetic towards people he's not that close with. I suppose he was feeling a little like he was part of the blame for them feeling that way and felt a little guilty. There was probably a rush of emotions and he then felt like a newbie/person he really doesn't like should've gone rather than a 'plonker'.

I think he was also trying to save face after Steven was seemingly trying to influence their nominations next week, so they would focus on Pav rather than him. While I think that their behaviour towards Pav isn't nice and could be seen as bullying, no-one has any loyalties to Pav and I think they think he's an intruder and someone who could potentially ruin their time in the BB house. This is the only element of game playing that I've seen from Chris and I don't think it's that terrible a thing to do.

I think Chris's feelings are completely genuine, including his conversation with Helen and his comments to Ash. Helen said that Ash is 'close' with Chris, so I guess there is an element of friendship there that we just haven't seen, so it seems out of place for him to be saying those things to Ash. Chris has also said numerous times that he's been trying with Helen since the beginning, he feels like they've bridged a gap and that she's changed and she can be quite charming to the people in there when she's not being a nasty cow. I'm sure 7 weeks in that house takes its toll on anyone and I think he's just feeling more outwardly emotional now.

[JayBlaze]

Liked Chris the first few weeks but now he's turned into a over dramatic merkin. Kissin Helens arse, would love to see the reactions if Pav somehow managed to stay next week. The house would meltdown

[vixenk99]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

Why is it not ok for people to bitch about people they don't like? Whether it's Helen, Ashleigh, Chris or anyone else. It's just a little harmless bitch.

I don't consider it game playing to want to get along with people you're stuck in a house with 24/7. I think he genuinely wants to see the good side of everyone and get to know that good side. He's never tried to manipulate anyone or backstab any of his friends. He's never bullied or been nasty to anyone. I think Chris is treating the house as a workplace and trying to be cordial to everyone.

And if you look at the context for his DR about Steve, it was after they discovered that Steven was going to nominate them, as Chris explained spot on. And he was never nasty about him either, he called him a 'plonker'; he could've easily have just called him a dick or similar, it was a 'friendly' insult. His comments with Ash were then after Steven got evicted and Steve's friends were emotional. Unlike Steven's gang, he is able to feel sympathetic towards people he's not that close with. I suppose he was feeling a little like he was part of the blame for them feeling that way and felt a little guilty. There was probably a rush of emotions and he then felt like a newbie/person he really doesn't like should've gone rather than a 'plonker'.

I think he was also trying to save face after Steven was seemingly trying to influence their nominations next week, so they would focus on Pav rather than him. While I think that their behaviour towards Pav isn't nice and could be seen as bullying, no-one has any loyalties to Pav and I think they think he's an intruder and someone who could potentially ruin their time in the BB house. This is the only element of game playing that I've seen from Chris and I don't think it's that terrible a thing to do.

I think Chris's feelings are completely genuine, including his comments to Ash. Helen said that Ash is 'close' with Chris, so I guess there is an element of friendship there that we just haven't seen, so it seems out of place for him to be saying those things to Ash.

That was really well said, thanks for that, I agree!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

Why is it not ok for people to bitch about people they don't like? Whether it's Helen, Ashleigh, Chris or anyone else. It's just a little harmless bitch.

I don't consider it game playing to want to get along with people you're stuck in a house with 24/7. I think he genuinely wants to see the good side of everyone and get to know that good side. He's never tried to manipulate anyone or backstab any of his friends. He's never bullied or been nasty to anyone. I think Chris is treating the house as a workplace and trying to be cordial to everyone.

And if you look at the context for his DR about Steve, it was after they discovered that Steven was going to nominate them, as Chris explained spot on. And he was never nasty about him either, he called him a 'plonker'; he could've easily have just called him a dick or similar, it was a 'friendly' insult. His comments with Ash were then after Steven got evicted and Steve's friends were emotional. Unlike Steven's gang, he is able to feel sympathetic towards people he's not that close with. I suppose he was feeling a little like he was part of the blame for them feeling that way and felt a little guilty. There was probably a rush of emotions and he then felt like a newbie/person he really doesn't like should've gone rather than a 'plonker'.

I think he was also trying to save face after Steven was seemingly trying to influence their nominations next week, so they would focus on Pav rather than him. While I think that their behaviour towards Pav isn't nice and could be seen as bullying, no-one has any loyalties to Pav and I think they think he's an intruder and someone who could potentially ruin their time in the BB house. This is the only element of game playing that I've seen from Chris and I don't think it's that terrible a thing to do.

I think Chris's feelings are completely genuine, including his conversation with Helen and his comments to Ash. Helen said that Ash is 'close' with Chris, so I guess there is an element of friendship there that we just haven't seen, so it seems out of place for him to be saying those things to Ash. Chris has also said numerous times that he's been trying with Helen since the beginning, he feels like they've bridged a gap and that she's changed and she can be quite charming to the people in there when she's not being a nasty cow. I'm sure 7 weeks in that house takes its toll on anyone and I think he's just feeling more outwardly emotional now.

..absolutely, it's a bit like a working environment only more intense in that it's an environment where the people around you are not people/personalities you would necessarily choose as friends and may even completely clash with in some cases but inevitably, you do have to find a ground to get along with that person for the environment of others and your own self-preservation..but also, to 'let off steam' now and again when you find something/someone particularly irritating is also important..the thing with the BB house is that it's all so intensified because they can't get away from each other so letting off steam may be more frequent or it could just be highlighted more for manipulation....

[Yaki da]

I couldn't care less about his bitching. It's his bloody crying and acting up that puts me off

"We've grown!"

"You're the only reason I'm still here"

How anyone can listen to a grown man say **** like this and not throw up is beyond me.

[gm47]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I couldn't care less about his bitching. It's his bloody crying and acting up that puts me off

"We've grown!"

"You're the only reason I'm still here"

How anyone can listen to a grown man say **** like this and not throw up is beyond me.

Yes before him saying all that to Helen he was my 2nd Fav behind Ashleigh, he's gone down big time in my estimation. sad

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by JayBlaze

Liked Chris the first few weeks but now he's turned into a over dramatic merkin. Kissin Helens arse, would love to see the reactions if Pav somehow managed to stay next week. The house would meltdown

Im getting the feeling if Chris is up he could be in trouble

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Im getting the feeling if Chris is up he could be in trouble

..ughh, I'm thinking this as well Cherie and it's depressing....

[mrflibble]

I'm not going to change my opinion on him for doing one thing I don't really agree with. I don't understand what he sees in Helen to want to be friends with her, but I'm not going to dislike him for being nice or caring for someone

[waterhog]

chris is a nice chap - so what he goes into dr to talk - cards close ot chest. brill game player.