[poppsywoppsy]

Helen certainly is now bringing out the sob story

I have a child, boo hoo, I am homesick, boo hoo

She only ever puts the least effort in tasks, wanted to stop it early last night too, it is all about her.

I am sick of her, her voice, her moods and her moaning, day after day after day.

[HBB1508]

I really don't want Helen to win - she has sailed through thanks to her pass and made other HM's lives a misery with her nastiness - that should not be a winner.

[Ammi]

..I can only speak for myself but I personally wouldn't want to see a Helen win although I'd like to think and do think that she has learned something about herself from this experience and hope she continues on that path...if the winner has to do with discussions/talking points etc then Helen would indeed be a worthy winner but how many of those talking points have been to the positive about Helen's character..very few compared to the negative in her behaviour in the house..and that's why Helen leaves a lot to be desired in what I would be wanting in an ultimate winner ideally...I have no thoughts about her life outside the house/know very little about it except for what I've read on the forum and was not even aware of her before she went into the house so my 'judgement' is purely on her time in the house but there has been lots to 'judge' so it's enough...she's not to blame for everything no, but she has to take acceptance for her portion of blame in situations and be more aware of her flaws.....

..as for Ashleigh..she is also far from perfect, I know that... but she has showed such class, dignity and tenacity with her time in the house that I have grown to admire her very much so would for me make a far better winner...her age is irrelevant to me other than be mentioned in terms of the fine qualities she has shown in comparison to much older housemates who could learn something from someone so very young..age does not bring fine qualities..if a person is of poor quality in personality, it will just make them older and of equal poor quality..we learn from the young just as much as they learn from us and Ashleigh has much she can teach...she also happens to be beautiful imo, so her beauty will be mentioned in a way that any housemate who is perceived as physically attractive would also be and is, whether male or female...there's nothing new there..an attractive housemate will have comments on their looks..if that's the only reason why some vote..?..then that's completely up to them but there are many reasons why people would and will vote for Ashleigh that are attached to her character alone...

..Chris also has many fine qualities, he's also not perfect either and he seems to be very shaky atm in terms of his emotions ..but he's always had great insight into his thoughts on other housemates and maybe it's just a glitch..I hope he gets through it and reaches the final...Christopher would also be a worthy winner imo..maybe the most worthy in a strange way because I think he's someone who people don't take to and are irritated by to a large extent and I think he knows this but as he's perfectly nice and warm and caring, I think it frustrates and confuses him..but I think the win would mean so much to him..an acceptance for who he is from the public..?...and maybe also a win that would be unexpected by his fellow housemates who have dismissed him as of a lesser importance in terms of competition....so I think his win would be amazing....

[gm47]

there's only ever going to be 1 winner....... and thats Ashleigh !!

Helen and Ash have absolutely NO chance....does anyone actually believe they will ??

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by gm47

there's only ever going to be 1 winner....... and thats Ashleigh !!

Helen and Ash have absolutely NO chance....does anyone actually believe they will ??

No of course we don't,but no harm in wanting that,same as you want Ashleigh to win,who imo has done nothing to warrant a win,It should and will be,Winston,Mark Christopher or Chris.

[gm47]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

same as you want Ashleigh to win,who imo has done nothing to warrant a win,It should and will be,Winston,Mark Christopher or Chris.

I don't mind if Ashleigh/Christopher or even Winston wins but I do believe Ashleigh will win.

You say she won't.... what odds would you give me that she will ??

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by gm47

I don't mind if Ashleigh/Christopher or even Winston wins but I do believe Ashleigh will win.

You say she won't.... what odds would you give me that she will ??

Where did I say she wouldn't win? we all know how the GBP are,she could well win,I said imo she doesn't deserve the win over the ones I named,There have been lots of BB winners that I thought weren't worthy.

[gm47]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where did I say she wouldn't win?
.

not that it really matters but you said "It should and will be,Winston,Mark Christopher or Chris." which obviously means you don't think Ashleigh would.

[dyfed]

I don't believe for one minute she has changed,as Louisa said on bots,she has poison running through her vains.....she isn't pulling wool over my eyes....

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by dyfed

I don't believe for one minute she has changed,as Louisa said on bots,she has poison running through her vains.....she isn't pulling wool over my eyes....

I was really shocked that so many that night on BOTS were rooting for Helen.
The audience were defending her. It made me feel quite ill

[jet]

Originally Posted by Tarryn

I was really shocked that so many that night on BOTS were rooting for Helen.
The audience were defending her. It made me feel quite ill

That was on BOTP. The 'experts' love a HM who is a train wreck and always excuse their behaviour because they have to appear sympathetic and the audience have to clap their words of wisdom.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by jet

That was on BOTP. The 'experts' love a HM who is a train wreck and always excuse their behaviour because they have to appear sympathetic and the audience have to clap their words of wisdom.

I was like

[hijaxers]

Helen has zero chance of winning - who would even know she had a child - she never seems to mention it and i've not noticed her missing her offspring at all !!

[Beso]

she's just a giant vaginal hole, no more no less.

[aimat2]

Helen and her sidekick Ash have no chance at all