[the truth]

the author of the letter was a very odd choice??

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by jet

Helen is as hard as nails. She was the the only one to not cry over the other HM's letters. I thought it would have been nice though for her to get a letter from her son...I really really wanted to hear that, so it was disappointing. I wonder how she felt that it wasn't from her boy?
I was a bit astounded when her friend said her son was on a diet and would be glad to get cheeseburgers when Helen returned home. It made me think of an overweight kid whose Mum fed him junk food instead of cooking a decent meal for him. Why would the friend say that - it seemed like a dig to me.

I thought that remark was very odd aswell, about her son been on a diet

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Helen is as hard as nails. She was the the only one to not cry over the other HM's letters. I thought it would have been nice though for her to get a letter from her son...I really really wanted to hear that, so it was disappointing. I wonder how she felt that it wasn't from her boy?
I was a bit astounded when her friend said her son was on a diet and would be glad to get cheeseburgers when Helen returned home. It made me think of an overweight kid whose Mum fed him junk food instead of cooking a decent meal for him. Why would the friend say that - it seemed like a dig to me.

Oh lets just all guess that she feeds her kid junk now,jeez and people say she's nasty,he may be overweight,doesn't mean she feeds him junk food,but if it makes you feel better to have another stick to beat her with,so be it.Why would you be 'astounded' he's not your child?

[poppsywoppsy]

I have read that she has said herself she became out of control at an early age and may have been one of the causes of her parental breakup.

She had anger problems at school too.

She must have had a lot of surgery from the look of her earlier photos but I think they have done a really good job on her too.

He ex boyfriend concerns me a lot, I won't write about him on here but if googled there is a lot of info about him and her which might be worrying for Ash.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Bedouin

Well whether she knows it or not yet it's probably better that she doesn't see her parents. To keep abusive and dysfunctional people in your life is to invite and cultivate a bad lifestyle.

Her parents are also obviously completely terrible if she became a sex worker and was pregnant as a teenager, and furthermore if they disowned her because of these results of their completely awful parenting.

It's crystal clear that she had a very bad childhood by every indicator that she has given. And yet I see someone who is also very affectionate, and compassionate, so she has potential.

It's not crystal clear at all as we know **** all about her life growing up.

We do know that her brothers are doing alright though. Ones a nurse and the other is at uni.

[Ellen]

Dont know why it is a big deal. She doesnt have anything to do with her father & limited contact with her mother so her letter came from her best friend. Her best friend obviously thinks a lot about her which came across in the letter. Regarding her son which i think is wrong to speculate about & make it a reason to have a go at her for been a bad mother.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Dont know why it is a big deal. She doesnt have anything to do with her father & limited contact with her mother so her letter came from her best friend. Her best friend obviously thinks a lot about her which came across in the letter. Regarding her son which i think is wrong to speculate about & make it a reason to have a go at her for been a bad mother.

Very well said, that is a low blow by any standards Ellen.

A good and fair post again from you too. Actually if I was in the Bb house, I wouldn't want letters from home, especially when I knew family and friends were able to watch me if they wanted to anyway.

Like you I saw no issue at all of getting a letter from her friend, a friend who she is likely closer to than anyone else other than her son of course.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

her dads a doctor and he is divorced from her mom,she left home early and their relationships is strained I believe

Why am I not surprised !! But would have thought she would have got a message from her son ,it's not like he's a baby..

[CaudleHalbard]

Her son has probably been getting a bit of stick at school and from his friends about his embarrassing 'prossie' mother.

I'm am not in the least surprised Helen did not get a message from him.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Why am I not surprised !! But would have thought she would have got a message from her son ,it's not like he's a baby..

He's 10, I actually wasn't even allowed to watch BB when I was 10,had he sent the letter, there would have been uproar likely that her son had been used to try to improve her image possibly.

The likely outrage at her 10 year old watching this programme so late each night and as to this series content particularly, would have begged the question who had she entrusted the care of her child to while being in the house.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Her family are embarrassed by her.

Even ash wondered if his mum would tell him in his letter to keep away from her...

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's 10, I actually wasn't even allowed to watch BB when I was 10,had he sent the letter, there would have been uproar likely that her son had been used to try to improve her image possibly.

The likely outrage at her 10 year old watching this programme so late each night and as to this series content particularly, would have begged the question who had she entrusted the care of her child to while being in the house.

He doesn't have to watch the show to tell his mum he loves her or miss her,if he can't write...draw a picture.

[CaudleHalbard]

Does he even live with her, do we know?

[AnnieK]

Maybe Helen wanted to shield him from the glare of the show and so told whomever is looking after him not to have him do it. Maybe he did write one too but BB decided to give her the one from her friend.....maybe, maybe, maybe,.....the kids 10 so the decision will have been made by someone else...I#m sure BB won't have rung him personally and asked him to write one to which he flatly refused

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's 10, I actually wasn't even allowed to watch BB when I was 10,had he sent the letter, there would have been uproar likely that her son had been used to try to improve her image possibly.

The likely outrage at her 10 year old watching this programme so late each night and as to this series content particularly, would have begged the question who had she entrusted the care of her child to while being in the house.

He could have wrote a letter to his mom without having had to watch the show though, at the very least I would have thought that the friend might have passed on a message or some sort of an update on him for Helen?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by dyfed

He doesn't have to watch the show to tell his mum he loves her or miss her,if he can't write...draw a picture.

She already know's her son loves her just like he know's his mother loves him.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

Does he even live with her, do we know?

Yes he does live with her.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yes he does live with her.

Poor kid!

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Found this about her
http://www.express.co.uk/expressyour...lass-call-girl

I wasn't living in the uk when this story broke,sad really,but Rooney was a married man,how come he got away without being dragged through the mud,oh ya money and football !!

[CaudleHalbard]

Rooney took out a court injunction as I recall - which blocked the media from reporting on his threesome with Helen and her fellow escort, Jenny.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by dyfed

He doesn't have to watch the show to tell his mum he loves her or miss her,if he can't write...draw a picture.

That is true and he was mentioned anyway by her friend,although I forget all what she said as to him, who obviously is the one looking after him while she is in the house.
Why should there have to be a full blown message from him and as you say he doesn't have to watch the show and maybe he shouldn't be anyway.

So what is the point of him being the one to have to send a message,I see none at all.
It is no big deal at all in my opinion.

IT doesn't matter if he can write or not, why should he not be able to write,you don't know the child.
Perhaps it is just as well he isn't watching this farce of a series, I for sure wouldn't want any of my children if I had any of that age watching this series for sure.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He could have wrote a letter to his mom without having had to watch the show though, at the very least I would have thought that the friend might have passed on a message or some sort of an update on him for Helen?

Yes, very odd that the only thing the friend mentioned about her son that he was on a diet and would be glad to get cheeseburgers when his Mum got home. Made me think the friend was taking the opportunity to give him decent food instead of junk while Helen was away.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, very odd that the only thing the friend mentioned about her son that he was on a diet and would be glad to get cheeseburgers when his Mum got home. Made me think the friend was taking the opportunity to give him decent food instead of junk while Helen was away.

Really jet,I have to part company with you here, we have no idea if this child has any problems, has an illness or whatever.
We all on here have no idea as to that at all and he is not in BB himself anyway, so for me should not be used as a tool to attack Helen with in the absence of any real knowledge as to him or what he is like too.

Clearly Helen has placed him with a very responsible person,her closest friend in fact while she is in the BB house.For me that speaks volumes in itself.

I find it really sad that to get at Helen it can be to use a tiny snippet of info on a 10 year old boy who likely loves his Mother and she him too.
At 10 years of age I would never have sent a message to anyone in BB nor would I have been even allowed to by my Parents.

I actually think that is right too,'in my opinion'.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by jet

Helen is as hard as nails. She was the the only one to not cry over the other HM's letters. I thought it would have been nice though for her to get a letter from her son...I really really wanted to hear that, so it was disappointing. I wonder how she felt that it wasn't from her boy?
I was a bit astounded when her friend said her son was on a diet and would be glad to get cheeseburgers when Helen returned home. It made me think of an overweight kid whose Mum fed him junk food instead of cooking a decent meal for him. Why would the friend say that - it seemed like a dig to me.

Winston didn't cry.

[joeysteele]

leUOTE=Ellen;7110148]She already know's her son loves her just like he know's his mother loves him.[/QUOTE]

Well said Ellen, when I was at Uni I often didn't hear from my parents for months sometimes, nor they from me obviously, we know how much we cared for each other.

Shocking in my view that all sorts of 'speculation' is being thrown about on a 10 year old boy, who is not even in the house or has had any connection to same other than his Mum is in it.

Also, another point that is being overlooked,what if he had written a letter to his Mother but someone else other than Winston got to decide who got their letters and then Helen wasn't chosen to get hers.
That young lads effort could have got discarded and how may he have been left to feel then that his Mum didn't get his letter.

We hear a little bit about looking out for Ashleigh for instance because she is only 18 but unnecessary and unpleasant speculation can be made as to a 10 year old boy,whose Mother just happens to be the main hate figure of this BB series.