[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by troy4783

How will they do that though because there is no more nominations ? I hope they just open Vote To Win on Friday Helen probably wouldn't even go in a Midweek eviction it would most likely be Ash or Pav if he stays on Friday.

They all face the vote bar Helen? I don't know.

They'll probably not have an eviction but some kind of midweek money twist or something.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

But vote to win is the FINAL. if she goes out first, that's her problem. But she was in the final lineup

She isn't there on the final night, in that scenario if she went out.
That is where the free pass takes her to not out before the night of the final..

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

She isn't there on the final night, in that scenario if she went out.
That is where the free pass takes her to not out before the night of the final..

How do you know that's where the free pass takes her? If she's in the final lineup, she's in the final. If she gets evicted before, then she was still part of the final vote. The pass does not say she'll be there on the final night. The whole final week is... The final.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

They all face the vote bar Helen? I don't know.

I just find that extremely doubtful. You might like to see it, as Ashleigh might go in a final eviction vote over the boring men. But imagine the girl topping every popularity poll being evicted on the Monday before the vote to win opens.

Of course, they may just do a Vote to win from this Friday until next Friday, and have 6 there on the final night. That's what most people would probably want.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

I just find that extremely doubtful. You might like to see it, as Ashleigh might go in a final eviction vote over the boring men. But imagine the girl topping every popularity poll being evicted on the Monday before the vote to win opens.

Of course, they may just do a Vote to win from this Friday until next Friday, and have 6 there on the final night. That's what most people would probably want.

No, I'm guessing what they could do.

You overestimate the number of sh*ts I give about the final.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

How do you know that's where the free pass takes her? If she's in the final lineup, she's in the final. If she gets evicted before, then she was still part of the final vote. The pass does not say she'll be there on the final night. The whole final week is... The final.

Because it's a pass to the FINAL.

Not a place in the final week, not a place in the final lineup. THE. FINAL. Of which there is only one.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

How do you know that's where the free pass takes her? If she's in the final lineup, she's in the final. If she gets evicted before, then she was still part of the final vote. The pass does not say she'll be there on the final night. The whole final week is... The final.

Because it is where all housemates who previously got a free pass to the final went to, the final night.
Even Luke S who got his pass to the final.

They have to be there for the final votes on the final night otherwise they have not been taken to the final at all.
In other words, no matter where they are placed,they have to come out of the final on the final night of the series.

[Ross.]

VTW pls

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because it's a pass to the FINAL.

Not a place in the final week, not a place in the final lineup. THE. FINAL. Of which there is only one.

Nope. The pass could just be to the final... As in it stops once the final vote starts. Show me the fine print that says exactly what it means.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because it's a pass to the FINAL.

Not a place in the final week, not a place in the final lineup. THE. FINAL. Of which there is only one.

Well done, you said it far more briefly than I did.

[Johnnyuk123]

The final twist will be that Tamara is announced the winner for being the first voted out.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Because it is where all housemates who previously got a free pass to the final went to, the final night.
Even Luke S who got his pass to the final.

They have to be there for the final votes on the final night otherwise they have not been taken to the final at all.

If they haven't made the final night it's because they didn't have enough votes in the final vote to get there. Helen's pass took her up to the final as far as I recall. That's it.

In other words, no matter where they are placed,they have to come out of the final on the final night of the series.

Disagree.

And if the producers use that to somehow justify another eviction that leads to one of the more popular housemates going out before the Vote to win, then they will once again be pissing off the viewers.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Nope. The pass could just be to the final... As in it stops once the final vote starts. Show me the fine print that says exactly what it means.

I would agree with this, as when Helen got her pass they did say congratulations you are now a big brother finalist - so if they announce to the house this Friday after the eviction that everyone is now a finalist in big brother then I would take it that Helens pass is finished as she would then be a finalist - semantics I know but that's how I see it.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Her pass takes her to the final. Leaving anytime before that final is not the "final lineup".

They said Ashleigh was immune from eviction and she was put up anyway, they put Chris up for eviction after a task that turned out to be irrelevant. They CAN turn Helen's pass to the final into pass to the final week, if they WANT TO. There would NOTHING unfair about it whatsoever, especially as it was UNFAIR for her to receive it in the first place and they have already twisted everything this series anyway.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I would agree with this, as when Helen got her pass they did say congratulations you are now a big brother finalist - so if they announce to the house this Friday after the eviction that everyone is now a finalist in big brother then I would take it that Helens pass is finished as she would then be a finalist - semantics I know but that's how I see it.

Is that what they said? I can't remember. But anyone who is involved in the final lineup in a vote to win is obviously a finalist regardless of whether they go out in a midweek vote freeze.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

Nope. The pass could just be to the final... As in it stops once the final vote starts. Show me the fine print that says exactly what it means.

Because the finale is the final night. Common sense. She has a pass that means she's there from the first day to the final day.

You don't like that, but it is what it is.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because the finale, is the final night. She has a pass that means she's there from the first day to the final day.

No, she has a pass that means she gets to the final... She is a finalist the moment the vote to win opens, regardless of whether or not she comes last and goes out on a Wednesday

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

No, she has a pass that means she gets to the final... She is a finalist the moment the vote to win opens, regardless of whether or not she comes last and goes out on a Wednesday

Exactly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

They said Ashleigh was immune from eviction and she was put up anyway, they put Chris up for eviction after a task that turned out to be irrelevant. They CAN turn Helen's pass to the final into pass to the final week, if they WANT TO. There would NOTHING unfair about it whatsoever, especially as it was UNFAIR for her to receive it in the first place and they have already twisted everything this series anyway.

Yes, a vague mention of immunity from one eviction is the same as a "pass to the final".

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because the finale is the final night. Common sense. She has a pass that means she's there from the first day to the final day.

The final begins the moment the vote to win does. Those are the finalists. If she's there and goes out first, then she was still a finalist. That's what her pass said she was according to the poster above.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

No, she has a pass that means she gets to the final... She is a finalist the moment the vote to win opens, regardless of whether or not she comes last and goes out on a Wednesday

You can't put common sense where there is none.

[Jack_]

Big Brother finalists are housemates that are present in the house on the very last day during the final show...yes that's right...the actual final. The last show. The Final. The show where Emma evicts everyone from the house and crowns a winner. The same show that happens on the last day of every series ever. Remember that? It's called the final, and that's what Helen has a pass to. Not the final week, or the final 'line up' (which by the way is all of the people present on the last day, if you're evicted before the final you aren't a finalist)...the actual final.

So can people drop the act of pretending they don't know what a pass to the final means because they're desperate to have her leave before the end. You just know if that pass had gone to a dullard we wouldn't be having this ridiculous discussion which only has one answer to it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

The final begins the moment the vote to win does. Those are the finalists. If she's there and goes out first, then she was still a finalist. That's what her pass said she was according to the poster above.

No. The final night is Friday 15th. FRIDAY 15th August. Not Monday, not Wednesday, not tomorrow, NEXT FRIDAY.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You can't put common sense where there is none.

Okay... Seeing as I've been banned a couple of times for responding to these sort of responses, I'll just leave you to the insults.

[VanessaFeltz.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Brother_15_(UK) Look at this: Helen, Ashleigh and Ash are finalist