[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Lwize

Editing is one thing, but honestly their "friendship" isn't going to continue outside the house. It's the way it has to be.

Why do so many people doubt their friendship? Is it because they look different and the age gap?

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why do so many people doubt their friendship? Is it because they look different and the age gap?

I don't doubt their friendship in the house one bit, but she does seem quite detached from him. Considering their distance and different lives outside, I just find it unlikely that they'll really keep in touch.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why do so many people doubt their friendship? Is it because they look different and the age gap?

It's because it's one of those things that occur in the BB bubble, but not outside of it. Like Kim and Steven.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Why do so many people doubt their friendship? Is it because they look different and the age gap?

Looks and age have nothing to do with it.

It's her lack of reciprocation, her telling facial expressions and her uncomfortable body language whenever he talks of 'definitely wanting to stay friends with her' that make me doubt their 'friendship' will continue out of the house.

He clearly wants it to - but she clearly doesn't.

BB has definitely been guilty of peddling the 'creepy chris' angle - the animal grooming task being an all time BB low - but aside from the editing - you can see it in her face and body language that she is nowhere near as keen on him as a friend as he is on being friends with her.


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[Achilles]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Looks and age have nothing to do with it.

It's her lack of reciprocation, her telling facial expressions and her uncomfortable body language whenever he talks of 'definitely wanting to stay friends with her' that make me doubt their 'friendship' will continue out of the house.

He clearly wants it to - but she clearly doesn't.

BB has definitely been guilty of peddling the 'creepy chris' angle - the animal grooming task being an all time BB low - but aside from that you can see it in her face and body language that she is not even 10% as keen on their friendship as he is.

We don't live in the house with them. BB edit the footage we see. I already gave a clear example of how they even edit middle of sentences out to suit the edit they want.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Achilles

We don't live in the house with them. BB edit the footage we see. I already gave a clear example of how they even edit middle of sentences out to suit the edit they want.

Yes you did.

And i gave a clear example of how Ashleigh's body language and face often looks uncomfortable when Chris talks of his desire to be close friends on the outside - that's not something that can be photoshopped or edited - she simply looks uncomfortable regardless of editing.

I mean, they haven't edited in her reaction shots from another completely different conversation and then pasted them on to her talks with Chris just to make a story line.

When Chris talks like that - she looks uncomfortable and non- reciprocal. It's all happening in the same scene, at the same time, same positions on the bed or wherever and often it happens in the same shot.

Her face says it all. And THAT hasn't been edited. Unless you think it's been CGI'd?

[mrflibble]

I think perhaps he comes on a bit strong because he's worried that when they leave Ashleigh won't be interested in being friends with him and he wants to make sure she knows that he genuinely cares for and respects her (and perhaps gauge her responses to see where he stands). I think he does know that outside the house they lead very different lives and their friendship is unlikely to hold up, but wants to hold onto it as much as possible. I understand where he's coming from if that's true, because it's very difficult for me to make friends and if I make a genuine connection with someone then I want to hold onto that friendship and will do a lot to make sure that they stick around (although I'm not as open as Chris).

But I'm not sure if his reaction was necessarily him going 'omg she said that to him and not to me', it felt like a lot of that conversation referenced previous conversations where she may or may not have said a similar thing to Chris. I think he turned away because it was getting emotional (and it was about how they BOTH love Christopher), and then followed that up with a hug because he's just very huggy. I think it was like a 'Chris and I had one of these conversations earlier, now we're having it with you and welcome to the family' kind of thing.

[tanussa]

lets face it, once danielle had left who else could ashleigh turn to, there was only chris on his lonesome and he filled the vacancy very eagerly, not a true friendship, more so on ashleighs part, its obvious chris dotes on her, but for her, he just fills a gap and gives her support, he was the only port in a storm

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Did anyone else notice Chris's reaction as he watched Ashleigh heap praise on Christopher, saying 'she will definitely be Christopher's friend for life' etc.

Chris's face!

He had just said the exact same thing to Ashleigh earlier on in the bedroom (and not for the first time) and once again - she had not reciprocated the sentiment.

But then she goes and says it to Christopher instead!

Poor Chris.

But maybe it was her way of dealing with Chris's earlier awkward 'sexy' comment about Ashleigh having stuff dribble down her chin. Perhaps it was her subtle way of letting Chris know she felt a bit off about that comment by directing her drunken warmth towards Christopher instead who (being gay) doesn't have any overtones in his relationship with her.

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It was probably Ashleighs spiteful way of getting back at Chris for daring to say Helen was hot and the sexiext housemate.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It was probably Ashleighs spiteful way of getting back at Chris for daring to say Helen was hot and the sexiext housemate.

I think so. At least Chris has very good taste in women.