[Kazanne]

There have been far worse things said on here ,than Helen has ever said,being so self righteous doesn't suit everyone!!!

[Lostie!]

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

A fine summary Lostie..

[bots]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

I can fully understand how it is possible to come to that view point. However her behaviour has to be judged in context. By that I mean the general mood of the house, the behaviour of others in the house and how they all interacted given the mental pressure being heaved on them by BB.

My own opinion is that none came out of it smelling of roses. However, I did try to look at their characters overall, and not just focus on one aspect to the exclusion of all others. Taking those other aspects of character into account, for me, and that is a very personal me I know, I felt Helen had more endearing qualities than any other housemate in there. Maybe others saw some of these things too, and that's why Helen ended up, a very marginal winner.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I can fully understand how it is possible to come to that view point. However her behaviour has to be judged in context. By that I mean the general mood of the house, the behaviour of others in the house and how they all interacted given the mental pressure being heaved on them by BB.

My own opinion is that none came out of it smelling of roses. However, I did try to look at their characters overall, and not just focus on one aspect to the exclusion of all others. Taking those other aspects of character into account, for me, and that is a very personal me I know, I felt Helen had more endearing qualities than any other housemate in there. Maybe others saw some of these things too, and that's why Helen ended up, a very marginal winner.

Okay but in context, the general mood of the house was brought down tremendously by Helen

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Okay but in context, the general mood of the house was brought down tremendously by Helen

Technically it was brought down by Pauline IMO. Her 2 week chicken reign dragged everyone down and then Toya, Helen, Ashleigh, Danielle just held it down in the weeks following right through to the final.

[andybigbro]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

Great post

I agree.

[Pronshi]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Her entire attitude. She just seemed to be a very unpleasant, shallow and immature person, acting like you'd expect the nasty girl at school to behave.

That's what that group (Helen, Ash, Tamara, Pauline, Steven especially) reminded me of, the mean clique at school who mock the "uncool" kids for no reason, not even trying to make an effort with them.

As soon as the Day 2 housemates arrived, she and Tamara were off to the toilet to brand Jale a "slug" and share how much they "hate" Chris. How was this not a horribly shallow judgement? It's seriously embarrassing that a 27 year old woman would act like that. But that wasn't enough for Helen, so she progressed onto targeting Jale in front of people for nothing.

Then there's the time that little gang mocked Christopher with "Boring! Booooring!" taunts when he was walking out of the room.

Not to mention how aggressive she got for very little reason. I mean, anyone who flies off the handle as badly as she did because someone whispers a comment about Truth or Dare needs to speak to someone.

As far as I'm concerned, Helen and certain others in there were definitely bullies, bullies who didn't seem to have mentally left high school.

Greatest post on this thread in a while.
Restored faith in this forum.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It's worth noting that Zoe was evicted for one comment about Tesco employees, and then Helen spends the summer spitting venom and wins.

Also, remembering that Helen was an alternate for BB13 makes so much sense when you realize that her group is pretty much the Insiders with a lot more power.

[Firewire]

still waiting on receipts

[Kizzy]

It normal... in all group situations there is an 'ingroup' and an 'outgroup', it's just groupthink.
http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_reso...20overview.htm

[the truth]

sadly it comes down to sexism again...female housemates know how sexist the show is and how the women can pretty much be as vile and abusive as they like and will never get booted from the house and will end up getting the attention and winning like helen or denise welch......pauline was horrific, toyah the same, helen horrific, ashleigh unpleasant, danielle unpleasant and fake....endless line of unpleasant women in the house of the years from the awful jade and her pack of witches, remember caroline the posh horror of a human, yet another unaccountable vile bully

[Northern Monkey]

Did you not watch BB15?

[joeysteele]

I can think of many things and I would think Helen herself could too as to how wrong she was at times and also extremely unpleasant.

That is all very different from being eligible to be cast as a 'vile' human being,that term is an extreme term and didn't apply to any housemates this series or likely any other.

So no matter what,I saw nothing at all whatsover from any of them and equally so Helen, to warrant the description of being a 'vile. human being.
For me that is really possibly being over the top.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can think of many things and I would think Helen herself could too as to how wrong she was at times and also extremely unpleasant.

That is all very different from being eligible to be cast as a 'vile' human being,that term is an extreme term and didn't apply to any housemates this series or likely any other.

So no matter what,I saw nothing at all whatsover from any of them and equally so Helen, to warrant the description of being a 'vile. human being.
For me that is really possibly being over the top.

"Stop shagging Jesus" said to a Catholic?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

"Stop shagging Jesus" said to a Catholic?

Danielle said plenty back at her too and really Danielle was the biggest contradiction to her own religion anyway.
I saw nothing from Danielle,inside and outside the house that in any way made her religion,which is the same as mine by the way, attractive in any form whatsoever.

I wouldn't take any lectures from Danielle as to any 'decent' behaviour either.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Danielle said plenty back at her too and really Danielle was the biggest contradiction to her own religion anyway.
I saw nothing from Danielle,inside and outside the house that in any way made her religion,which is the same as mine by the way, attractive in any form whatsoever.

I wouldn't take any lectures from Danielle as to any 'decent' behaviour either.

Yeah i agree about Danielle being a contradiction but as far as i know she is still a Catholic?If somebody had said 'Stop shagging Allah' to a Muslim wether they went against their religion or not,It would not be tolerated.I see no difference what religion somebody is,It was unnacceptable and could be seen as 'vile'

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Yeah i agree about Danielle being a contradiction but as far as i know she is still a Catholic?If somebody had said 'Stop shagging Allah' to a Muslim wether they went against their religion or not,It would not be tolerated.I see no difference what religion somebody is,It was unnacceptable and could be seen as 'vile'

I'd describe it as out of order and unacceptable but not 'vile'.

However Christianity gets a hammering a lot of the time from all sections of society, there is little in the way of respect for much of the Christian denominations now,never mind just Catholicism.
Although as greatly offensive Danielle would have liked it to be seen as,I think much of Danielle's own attitude as to her religion leaves far more to be desired and questioned.

Sadly, a geat deal of offensive and massive disrespect as to Christian religion now is it seems tolerated,even in the UK with little said or done to address it.

The thing is once you start to preach as to others behaviour as Danielle set out to do, then you do have to make sure you are beyond any criticism.
Otherwise you leave yourself wide open to attack to yourself as to those principles.

A rather offensive comment, yes, unacceptable, yes,worth maybe a talking to on,since it was on a national TV programme, yes.
However for that to make her overall a 'vile' human being full stop, no, not at all in my view.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

"Stop shagging Jesus" said to a Catholic?

wow...I didnt even hear that revolting comment.....absolutely disgusting

[Nedusa]

I think this woman is a vile piece of Human flotsam/Jetsam, how she managed to get washed up into the BB house is beyond me and most people. A woman with very few saving graces (if any) callous,rude,loud,gobby,obnoxious,bullying,stupid are a few of her qualities.

I'm so glad she won BB as it must have been the nightmare come true for the producers to have such an unworthy winner after 10 weeks. To come out to such a lacklustre reception with many Boo's echoing around the audience. To be publicly NOT endorsed by Emma Willis and then on BOTS later publicly insult Matthew also speaks volumes why this woman is not and never would be BB winner material.

That she got to the final by cheating (not her fault I admit) but then to go on and get the most votes is simply appalling.

I think BB15 will go down in history as the BB series that finally pushed the show to it's limits and alienated vast numbers of it's core audience. To many it was the final straw and it remains to be seen if the Non Celeb version of this show can continue next year as audience figures may never recover from this shambles.

Let's hope CBB can redress the balance.







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[CaudleHalbard]

So you won't be going to her salon then?

[Cold Sweat]

Helly Woo Woo @HelenWood86 · 24s

You're sooo lucky bb didn't show the footage of me putting your Smelly granny gruds full of ginger wheelspins on marks pillow😂 @CLASSICFOX

Maybe i'm becoming a prude in my old age... but she is vile!

[Parmy]

Lots, and she is.

[Firewire]

screaming

[Marsh.]

Not nonsense. She's a big fake.