[the truth]

no shes not as clever as shes pretending to be......she also assumed kellie was a fantastic lovely brave person, when in fact hes a nasty horrible bloke

[Marsh.]

Oh here we go. Benefits debate.

[waterhog]

i am thinking we need to close the big brother thread and start a debate a topic of morals etc and work ethic.

i am sorry to say you are all missing the point of big brother - judge them on what you are seeing and bare in mind you might be manipulated so try to keep a over all view.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by waterhog

i am thinking we need to close the big brother thread and start a debate a topic of morals etc and work ethic.

i am sorry to say you are all missing the point of big brother - judge them on what you are seeing and bare in mind you might be manipulated so try to keep a over all view.

No one's missing the point. She in "celebrity" Big Brother because she's been in a TV show on the strength of her being a benefits claimant. Of course people will use that knowledge.

[joeysteele]

I don't know anything as to her criminal conviction,it was said she was no longer on benefits.
However,that would not necessarily stop her going to a College to do a course anyway, even if she had one.
As I see it she now has a higher public profile and I think she would get a lot of support along the way if she wanted to do some work as to helping and advising others.
Experiences of life, all that can go wrong as well as what is right can be one of the best ways to learn anyway.

As for Waterhog's poems, I quite enjoy them myself,a good many I disagree with as to the content but they are for me a strong part of this forum now.