[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

[Fendertele]

BB should tell Dee to run up and down the library room stairs 20 times, I bet she will say 'I can't do it', but it's only a game Dee, Gary was saying for health reasons and his limitations he could not go on the scrap heap....

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Fendertele

BB should tell Dee to run up and down the library room stairs 20 times, I bet she will say 'I can't do it', but it's only a game Dee, Gary was saying for health reasons and his limitations he could not go on the scrap heap....

Dee can **** off....just because Gary isn't falling for her gameplan. Dee has had it easy in there...she is wallowing in the comforts and has yet to be challenged. Let's see her reaction when she is...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I've said before, Dee has been paid to spend a lot of time sitting on her ENORMOUS arse thinking about things... so she probably thinks she knows better than people who've had other things to do.

yep spot on. shes sat on her backside smoking fags all her life? now shes acting like a life guru? what a joke. gary has been out there living the life of 20 men.....and yet she is more arrogant she is more impatient, she is the one who thinks she knows everything, whereas gary is still learning and growing and living in wonderment at the infinite mysteries of the universe. im actually beginning to think we english are small minded narrow minded little people. watching this and many other reality tv shows over the years, the americans have been far more open minded. our lot in there always hunt in packs, always act as bullies towards the bigger american characters. after 15+ years of relaity shows like big brother, i think we can safely say a pattern has developed.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

just because a person is a lazy chav smoking and swearing all day in a brummie accent doesnt mean theyre down to earth. she is in fact more arrogant and impatient than the movie legend.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

I know it's a game show.

She still took the easy way out. IMO.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

Yeah I thought this myself actually, it's easier for them to agree with the 'pack' so they do it.

[puzzled]

It was comic, though, watching Dee give her unsolicited (stupid) advice about how to act on a reality show, to Gary. What was she thinking?

[Patricia4]

He's no fool it make's me laugh

[Vanessa]

I don't like Dee. She isn't a celeb and she's boring as well. What does she actually do in there?

[jet]

Neither of them did themselves any favours in that clip. I don't think Gary is taking the game too seriously. He shouldn't be made to sleep outside with his health problems, end of story. The other HM's should care about him physically more than they seem to and I wonder why some of the ladies of the house aren't more concerned for his welfare. Not meaning to be sexist, but I hope you know what I mean. Do Dee, Claire etc even bother to have ordinary conversations with him one to one?

As for Gary, I dislike the way he shut Dee down by saying he has genius and brilliance and he has left his body twice; because it wasn't relevant to the conversation and gives the impression that he thinks she is a lesser being than him because she hasn't had the dubious experience of dying twice. Everyone is on their own level of awareness/ a spiritual journey or whatever you want to call it, and brushing others opinions or attitudes off (whether they are right or wrong) by telling them you are 'spiritually' superior only suggests that you are, well, not.
It makes for riveting viewing though.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

What i don't get is, the people who support him, claim he does no wrong.. but if everyone in the house except one person, says he's difficult to live with and he's rude etc, surely they can't all be wrong?

a group of shallow bullies are always wrong

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

because honesty pays longer term and because were watching . she exposed herself as shallow judgemental cowradly lazy and fake.....ironically shes more arrogant and far lazier than hollywood royalty

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dee told him the truth and he did not like it.

she didnt say the truth at all, she just went with the crowd of bullies.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by the truth

she didnt say the truth at all, she just went with the crowd of bullies.

100% agree with you, the way she behaved was to do with the pack mentally of James, Leslie, Stephanie, Kellie and even George. For somebody who protrays herself to be a caring person (as she tries to in Benefit Street) she was very disrepectful of Gary's health and age and it was because of his health that he couldn't do the scrap heap. Dee has 100% gone down in my estimation (I actually can;t believe I like her at first).

[the truth]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

100% agree with you, the way she behaved was to do with the pack mentally of James, Leslie, Stephanie, Kellie and even George. For somebody who protrays herself to be a caring person (as she tries to in Benefit Street) she was very disrepectful of Gary's health and age and it was because of his health that he couldn't do the scrap heap. Dee has 100% gone down in my estimation (I actually can;t believe I like her at first).

im proud to say i never fell for her..like so many fake talentless celebrities in the uk, when you scratch the surface theres nothing underneath........all front and no back , a total fraud....shes a lazy fake hypocrite who has sat on her lard arse , smoking most of her life........gary has lived his life, hes danced with the devil and come out to tell the tale....i have the utmost respect for gary, i am in awe of the man

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Disappointed in Dee, she was just talking bs.
Gary moaned about the task because he was not going to be sleeping outside overnight with his back/other health probs. Once BB had clarified he would not be sleeping outside at night he got on with it.
They all get on? again bs. Apart from the fact most of them have been calling him names and moaning about him from day dot i dont think i have seen Dee speak to him, she knows damn well some of them do not get on with him.

Unfortunately she is following the rest of them and it is a shame, i thought she had a bit more about her.

I think this is when things maybe start to backfire on Dee with the public.
I thought her answers were wrong but she thought they were 'safe' ones to make as they got at Gary.

She came across really patronsing too in their talk,Gary was,in his way, a step ahead of her and she didn't like that at all in my view.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I've said before, Dee has been paid to spend a lot of time sitting on her ENORMOUS arse thinking about things... so she probably thinks she knows better than people who've had other things to do.

Dee has now lost her top spot with Oddschecker. George is now 1st Gary 2nd and Dee 3rd. I hope she stays there or goes to the bottom of the pile along with Leslie and the Pratt girl.

[the truth]

define the moment or the moment defines you.......the moment define dee, a lazy coward.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

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I think this is when things maybe start to backfire on Dee with the public.
I thought her answers were wrong but she thought they were 'safe' ones to make as they got at Gary.

She came across really patronsing too in their talk,Gary was,in his way, a step ahead of her and she didn't like that at all in my view.

Definitely!
When she realized she was starting to make herself look silly she started talking much faster and her accent got stronger which i think she did so that Gary would lose track in the conversation and she could just walk off making comments about him that were too quiet for him to hear but loud enough so that the cameras and other housemates would pick them up!

I really have given her a chance but over the last couple of days she's become very tactical by going with the majority who take delight in ridiculing Gary because he's an easy target!

If Gary had pissed in the pool they would have gone absolutely ****ing NUTS but because it was Lauren it was barely commented on!

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Definitely!
When she realized she was starting to make herself look silly she started talking much faster and her accent got stronger which i think she did so that Gary would lose track in the conversation and she could just walk off making comments about him that were too quiet for him to hear but loud enough so that the cameras and other housemates would pick them up!

I really have given her a chance but over the last couple of days she's become very tactical by going with the majority who take delight in ridiculing Gary because he's an easy target!

If Gary had pissed in the pool they would have gone absolutely ****ing NUTS but because it was Lauren it was barely commented on!

I agree with all that, all good points.

[jet]

Originally Posted by the truth

im proud to say i never fell for her..like so many fake talentless celebrities in the uk, when you scratch the surface theres nothing underneath........all front and no back , a total fraud....shes a lazy fake hypocrite who has sat on her lard arse , smoking most of her life........gary has lived his life, hes danced with the devil and come out to tell the tale....i have the utmost respect for gary, i am in awe of the man

I'm genuinely interested to hear why you are in awe of him? I understand that he has made some great films, he has been through a lot with his accident, brain surgery etc. He is an interesting eccentric and obviously has 'lived' as he is 70. I like him a lot, but apart from all that I can't say I find him particularly inspiring or profound in any way. In fact I find him quite close minded in his belief that he is spiritually superior because he claims to have 'knowledge' from the other side that makes him brilliant and a genius....and others are lesser mortals.
I'd like him to tell what that knowledge is, or to show that he is a great guru instead of just stating it as a fact while showing nothing really to back it up. In other words, he's all talk really.
I think he's a good man, and an interesting and lovable one, but I don't get the adulation.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm genuinely interested to hear why you are in awe of him? I understand that he has made some great films, 167 movies/tv shows over 50 years...phenomenal

he has been through a lot with his accident, brain surgery etc.

thats an understatement. the accident happened decades ago. hes also half deaf, he also has no ego. he is on a journey, learning growing experiencing

He is an interesting eccentric and obviously has 'lived' as he is 70.

damned by faint praise. hes not necessarily eccentric, he just appears so compared to the one dimensional english puppets weve thrown him in with. he has his own unique original individual spirit. and hes not afraid to say it. brits have become homogenous cowards. we need gary buseys to put a mirror up to us and how contrived fake shallow and frankly boring and unoriginal weve become. being unoriginal is unforgivable.

I like him a lot, but apart from all that I can't say I find him particularly inspiring or profound in any way. In fact I find him quite close minded in his belief that he is spiritually superior because he claims to have 'knowledge' from the other side that makes him brilliant and a genius....and others are lesser mortals.

youre misquoting him hear and mis hearing him like all the other english housemates. (who are also anti american imho) hes never said such a thing at all.


I'd like him to tell what that knowledge is, or to show that he is a great guru instead of just stating it as a fact while showing nothing really to back it up. In other words, he's all talk really.

what do you want him to do, turn pool water into wine? even after lauren peed in it?

I think he's a good man, and an interesting and lovable one, but I don't get the adulation.

im in adulation because this is a man who has lived his life to the absolute max. in many ways for the right reasons...how many humans can really say theyve done that for the majority of their lives. he is totally out there experiencing it all, risking it all on a spit and a shoeshine......he could be sat in his hollywood mansion talking about the golden days of hollywood? instead hes out there despite it all living experiencing learning risking.......for my mind its the english in there who are the more arrogant the mentally lazier, the more ignorant and the ones who wont grow and learn....far easier to mock the crazy old yank , than actually listen learn understand and grow from his experiences

hes also got a phenomenal sense of humour, hes forgiving, hes kind, but hes never willing to earn praise or appreciation cheaply. hes true to himself at all times even under the most demanding of circumstances

i love the man. ive watched his movies my whole life. when i see a great yankee hero like that in the house , it makes me almost cry at how introverted and narrow minded we are as a people by comparison

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm genuinely interested to hear why you are in awe of him? I understand that he has made some great films, 167 movies/tv shows over 50 years...phenomenal

he has been through a lot with his accident, brain surgery etc.

thats an understatement. the accident happened decades ago. hes also half deaf, he also has no ego. he is on a journey, learning growing experiencing
He is an interesting eccentric and obviously has 'lived' as he is 70.

damned by faint praise. hes not necessarily eccentric, he just appears so compared to the one dimensional english puppets weve thrown him in with. he has his own unique original individual spirit. and hes not afraid to say it. brits have become homogenous cowards. we need gary buseys to put a mirror up to us and how contrived fake shallow and frankly boring and unoriginal weve become. being unoriginal is unforgivable.
I like him a lot, but apart from all that I can't say I find him particularly inspiring or profound in any way. In fact I find him quite close minded in his belief that he is spiritually superior because he claims to have 'knowledge' from the other side that makes him brilliant and a genius....and others are lesser mortals.

youre misquoting him hear and mis hearing him like all the other english housemates. (who are also anti american imho) hes never said such a thing at all.

I'd like him to tell what that knowledge is, or to show that he is a great guru instead of just stating it as a fact while showing nothing really to back it up. In other words, he's all talk really.

what do you want him to do, turn pool water into wine? even after lauren peed in it?
I think he's a good man, and an interesting and lovable one, but I don't get the adulation.

im in adulation because this is a man who has lived his life to the absolute max. in many ways for the right reasons...how many humans can really say theyve done that for the majority of their lives. he is totally out there experiencing it all, risking it all on a spit and a shoeshine......he could be sat in his hollywood mansion talking about the golden days of hollywood? instead hes out there despite it all living experiencing learning risking.......for my mind its the english in there who are the more arrogant the mentally lazier, the more ignorant and the ones who wont grow and learn....far easier to mock the crazy old yank , than actually listen learn understand and grow from his experiences

hes also got a phenomenal sense of humour, hes forgiving, hes kind, but hes never willing to earn praise or appreciation cheaply. hes true to himself at all times even under the most demanding of circumstances

i love the man. ive watched his movies my whole life. when i see a great yankee hero like that in the house , it makes me almost cry at how introverted and narrow minded we are as a people by comparison