[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I've said before, Dee has been paid to spend a lot of time sitting on her ENORMOUS arse thinking about things... so she probably thinks she knows better than people who've had other things to do.

yep spot on. shes sat on her backside smoking fags all her life? now shes acting like a life guru? what a joke. gary has been out there living the life of 20 men.....and yet she is more arrogant she is more impatient, she is the one who thinks she knows everything, whereas gary is still learning and growing and living in wonderment at the infinite mysteries of the universe. im actually beginning to think we english are small minded narrow minded little people. watching this and many other reality tv shows over the years, the americans have been far more open minded. our lot in there always hunt in packs, always act as bullies towards the bigger american characters. after 15+ years of relaity shows like big brother, i think we can safely say a pattern has developed.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Livia

Like I've said before, Dee has been paid to spend a lot of time sitting on her ENORMOUS arse thinking about things... so she probably thinks she knows better than people who've had other things to do.

Dee has now lost her top spot with Oddschecker. George is now 1st Gary 2nd and Dee 3rd. I hope she stays there or goes to the bottom of the pile along with Leslie and the Pratt girl.

[Kizzy]

She was wrong there there's no getting away from it. But the part about the out off body when she says 'that's as maybe' I think he hears 'I don't believe you'.

[Josy]

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

I agree Josy, she did it twice to him as well this is why he was trying to explain about going to the DR. They will all nominate him asap but let us hope he overcomes as he will be hurt. I can see one or two of the others being hurt as well.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

I know it's a game show.

She still took the easy way out. IMO.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a gameshow. why would she chose a hm that may mean she would be up in a nom situation in the future?

because honesty pays longer term and because were watching . she exposed herself as shallow judgemental cowradly lazy and fake.....ironically shes more arrogant and far lazier than hollywood royalty

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

just because a person is a lazy chav smoking and swearing all day in a brummie accent doesnt mean theyre down to earth. she is in fact more arrogant and impatient than the movie legend.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

I also like Dee and believe her to be down to earth but, having watched the clip, I felt that she might have thought she was back in Benefit Street giving a lecture to Fungi. There seems to be a tendency in the BB house to have a pack mentality (apart from Audley, Clare or Edele joining in) where they follow each other. Dee agreeing with Kellie that Leslie has a nasty side (behind Leslies back) shows that she is not as innocent as the game she is playing - friends to all but for herown convience.

Yeah I thought this myself actually, it's easier for them to agree with the 'pack' so they do it.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Josy

I like Dee but when I watched this last night my first thought was she took the easy/cowards way out in that task, she chose Gary because he was the easy option there and she didn't want to upset any of the other housemates IMO.

Yes!These were my thoughts exactly.

[Pincho Paxton]

Gary complained because of health reasons. Perfectly good excuse to complain. He was a farm worker, he wouldn't care about being outside otherwise.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dee told him the truth and he did not like it.

[Fendertele]

BB should tell Dee to run up and down the library room stairs 20 times, I bet she will say 'I can't do it', but it's only a game Dee, Gary was saying for health reasons and his limitations he could not go on the scrap heap....

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Fendertele

BB should tell Dee to run up and down the library room stairs 20 times, I bet she will say 'I can't do it', but it's only a game Dee, Gary was saying for health reasons and his limitations he could not go on the scrap heap....

Dee can **** off....just because Gary isn't falling for her gameplan. Dee has had it easy in there...she is wallowing in the comforts and has yet to be challenged. Let's see her reaction when she is...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dee told him the truth and he did not like it.

she didnt say the truth at all, she just went with the crowd of bullies.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by the truth

she didnt say the truth at all, she just went with the crowd of bullies.

100% agree with you, the way she behaved was to do with the pack mentally of James, Leslie, Stephanie, Kellie and even George. For somebody who protrays herself to be a caring person (as she tries to in Benefit Street) she was very disrepectful of Gary's health and age and it was because of his health that he couldn't do the scrap heap. Dee has 100% gone down in my estimation (I actually can;t believe I like her at first).

[the truth]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

100% agree with you, the way she behaved was to do with the pack mentally of James, Leslie, Stephanie, Kellie and even George. For somebody who protrays herself to be a caring person (as she tries to in Benefit Street) she was very disrepectful of Gary's health and age and it was because of his health that he couldn't do the scrap heap. Dee has 100% gone down in my estimation (I actually can;t believe I like her at first).

im proud to say i never fell for her..like so many fake talentless celebrities in the uk, when you scratch the surface theres nothing underneath........all front and no back , a total fraud....shes a lazy fake hypocrite who has sat on her lard arse , smoking most of her life........gary has lived his life, hes danced with the devil and come out to tell the tale....i have the utmost respect for gary, i am in awe of the man

[jet]

Originally Posted by the truth

im proud to say i never fell for her..like so many fake talentless celebrities in the uk, when you scratch the surface theres nothing underneath........all front and no back , a total fraud....shes a lazy fake hypocrite who has sat on her lard arse , smoking most of her life........gary has lived his life, hes danced with the devil and come out to tell the tale....i have the utmost respect for gary, i am in awe of the man

I'm genuinely interested to hear why you are in awe of him? I understand that he has made some great films, he has been through a lot with his accident, brain surgery etc. He is an interesting eccentric and obviously has 'lived' as he is 70. I like him a lot, but apart from all that I can't say I find him particularly inspiring or profound in any way. In fact I find him quite close minded in his belief that he is spiritually superior because he claims to have 'knowledge' from the other side that makes him brilliant and a genius....and others are lesser mortals.
I'd like him to tell what that knowledge is, or to show that he is a great guru instead of just stating it as a fact while showing nothing really to back it up. In other words, he's all talk really.
I think he's a good man, and an interesting and lovable one, but I don't get the adulation.

[puzzled]

It was comic, though, watching Dee give her unsolicited (stupid) advice about how to act on a reality show, to Gary. What was she thinking?

[Patricia4]

He's no fool it make's me laugh

[Vanessa]

I don't like Dee. She isn't a celeb and she's boring as well. What does she actually do in there?

[jet]

Neither of them did themselves any favours in that clip. I don't think Gary is taking the game too seriously. He shouldn't be made to sleep outside with his health problems, end of story. The other HM's should care about him physically more than they seem to and I wonder why some of the ladies of the house aren't more concerned for his welfare. Not meaning to be sexist, but I hope you know what I mean. Do Dee, Claire etc even bother to have ordinary conversations with him one to one?

As for Gary, I dislike the way he shut Dee down by saying he has genius and brilliance and he has left his body twice; because it wasn't relevant to the conversation and gives the impression that he thinks she is a lesser being than him because she hasn't had the dubious experience of dying twice. Everyone is on their own level of awareness/ a spiritual journey or whatever you want to call it, and brushing others opinions or attitudes off (whether they are right or wrong) by telling them you are 'spiritually' superior only suggests that you are, well, not.
It makes for riveting viewing though.

[the truth]

define the moment or the moment defines you.......the moment define dee, a lazy coward.