[Livia]

I'd frankly rather life in a house full of Garys than have to breathe the same air as a self-important tosspot like James or a knucklehead like David.

[michael21]

entertainment is good

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

And isn't Gary allowed to have an opinion on things then? because that's all it was, an opinion. Do you think James would have reacted the way he did in reply to that had George or Stephanie said it? I honestly don't.

No, because they wouldn't have said it in the first place as he was just encouraging her. Did you see the look on Lauren's face as well? It amuses me that Gary is a wind up, and I hope he keeps it up.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by G1dds

Of course Gary is no Saint - nor have I thought he is being bullied.......as we have seen, he is more than capable of holding his own and is even a bit of a wind up merchant

However, the majority of the house are so far up their own asses, that they are showing their own lack of ability to be patient etc and are working in a narrow minded pack mentality. It's their own downfall and makes Gary a brilliant hm to watch

That's a brilliantly summed up post, Gidds.

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd frankly rather life in a house full of Garys than have to breathe the same air as a self-important tosspot like James or a knucklehead like David.

Same here.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

What David said in retort, which was backed up by both Leslie and Stephanie was 'well if you go lay on your bed, i'll do some more for you'

I thought he started going on about how ungrateful he is, stormed away, then came back and said he'd do it for him. I could be wrong though. I did think there was no need really for Gary to say one wasn't enough repeatedly, but also no need for david's reaction

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I thought he started going on about how ungrateful he is, stormed away, then came back and said he'd do it for him. I could be wrong though. I did think there was no need really for Gary to say one wasn't enough repeatedly, but also no need for david's reaction

Well yeah he did, but that in itself shows that he wanted to help him, he might have said he was ungrateful and stormed off, but he came back from his own free will and said he'd help him, only to be treated with more rudeness in the bedroom

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Yeah I agree. When Gary first said "that one ice pack won't be enough" David could have easily just said "yeah true but it might be worth a try", but instead he turned it into a debate about how ungrateful Gary is. They have such a sensitive trigger for Gary and are ready to jump on him for any little thing.

That's not what happened!
David said to him to get onto his bed and he'd go and get more. When he brought it to him Gary once again didn't thank him and when he offered to help Gary said abruptly that he was capable of doing it himself. That's when David lost it and walked off. I don't see how anyone could think that was appropriate behaviour when someone is trying to help you.

[bots]

Its pure intolerance toward Gary. For whatever reason, and I think its as shallow as their jealousy of his stardom, they can't "best" him individually so have to attack him as a pack. The same is true of Frenchie imo. The housemates that do well will be those that show some compassion and understanding, and that doesn't just apply in the BB house, if they are not careful,they will all be known for their behaviour to Gary above all else they have done in their careers.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by jet

That's not what happened!
David said to him to get onto his bed and he'd go and get more. When he brought it to him Gary once again didn't thank him and when he offered to help Gary said abruptly that he was capable of doing it himself. That's when David lost it and walked off. I don't see how anyone could think that was appropriate behaviour when someone is trying to help you.

Dont think i would be happy with someone who was already been irate with me for needing help.

I do agree that Gary could have said thankyou and he may well have done if David had not have been so irate with him.
In the house he said to David he would need more, David was almost jumping down his throat at Gary for stating he needed more.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Dont think i would be happy with someone who was already been irate with me for needing help.

I do agree that Gary could have said thankyou and he may well have done if David had not have been so irate with him.
In the house he said to David he would need more, David was almost jumping down his throat at Gary for stating he needed more.

He was getting irate with him because he kept saying that he'd do more for him once Gary went and laid down on his bed, but Gary just kept repeating that it wasn't enough

[Pincho Paxton]

Gary is slightly annoying, and the house is easily annoyed. You have to pick between someone who is slightly annoying, and somebody who is easily annoyed. They cancel each other out. So you ignore those traits, and you are left with a person's other traits. Gary's other traits are intelligence, humour, and acting skills. That deck of cards is the winner.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Dont think i would be happy with someone who was already been irate with me for needing help.

I do agree that Gary could have said thankyou and he may well have done if David had not have been so irate with him.
In the house he said to David he would need more, David was almost jumping down his throat at Gary for stating he needed more.

David didn't jump down his throat at all. Maybe you should watch it back?

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

He was getting irate with him because he kept saying that he'd do more for him once Gary went and laid down on his bed, but Gary just kept repeating that it wasn't enough

Yes i know that but who want someone helping who is practically shouting in annoyance at you because you ask for more

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by jet

David didn't jump down his throat at all. Maybe you should watch it back?

Yes he did. Soon as Gary said it wasnt enough David snapped right back.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yes i know that but who want someone helping who is practically shouting in annoyance at you because you ask for more

He didn't once shout at him.. And if he doesn't want someone getting annoyed, let them get on with it, or do it himself, he can't have it both ways

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

I agree that he isn't 'insufferable'. Far from it. But I think that he was certainly rude when David brought him the ice pack. He complained that one wasn't enough and didn't even thank him. Now, if Rikki or James had acted like that would it be rude?
The convo with Lauren - James was encouraging Lauren in something she wanted to do and Gary was mumbling away about not 'pushing' her at the start of the scene - that is what I saw anyway. He likes to wind people up imo. But I love him, he's great to watch.

If I were Lauren I would make my own mind up but Gary is correct in as much as it was singing, dont force it. James says he was forced and it did him good but that was dancing. A very cruelling thing as the limbs must get so tired he would have needed that extra spurt. To force the voice is to damage it and confidence needs to be built up gradually imo.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

He didn't once shout at him.. And if he doesn't want someone getting annoyed, let them get on with it, or do it himself, he can't have it both ways

As far as we were shown Gary never asked David to do anything, the same thing you just posted can be swung round the other way, if you are going to get annoyed at someone you are supposedly helping then it's probably best you don't act as though you care in the first place.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

He didn't once shout at him.. And if he doesn't want someone getting annoyed, let them get on with it, or do it himself, he can't have it both ways

Well he did, he got on with it himself.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

As far as we were shown Gary never asked David to do anything, the same thing you just posted can be swung round the other way, if you are going to get annoyed at someone you are supposedly helping then it's probably best you don't act as though you care in the first place.

Gary probably didn't ask for help, but he was getting it anyway, he should have been a bit more grateful.. but because David got annoyed with him that means he doesn't care? If he didn't care, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to help him in the first place.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Gary probably didn't ask for help, but he was getting it anyway, he should have been a bit more grateful.. but because David got annoyed with him that means he doesn't care? If he didn't care, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to help him in the first place.

Someone was probably asked to go to the hatch and get the ice.

David getting annoyed, called Gary a prick numerous times and then continuing to mumble under his breath and then moan to the other housemates tells me he doesn't care.

David cares about David. IMO.

[Bluerang1]

Gary was the same way on the Apprentice. He caused problems there too

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Well he did, he got on with it himself.

he did, but only after David had enough of his rudeness and told him to do it himself

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Someone was probably asked to go to the hatch and get the ice.

David getting annoyed, called Gary a prick numerous times and then continuing to mumble under his breath and then moan to the other housemates tells me he doesn't care.

David cares about David. IMO.

That's beyond the point, David was still trying to help him, he chose to do it, he didn't have to, he could have let someone else, or Gary do it himself, but he chose to... and he was met with rudeness and Gary being ungrateful for the help, he had every right to get annoyed

[jet]

David was being helpful, Gary was ungrateful and rude not to thank him. Is it not common courtesy to thank someone when they bring you something instead of complaining that it's not enough?