[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Suze

Well apparently in the balloon task according to the rest of the housemates, Gary couldn't act and lost the task for them, so how can he be acting in the BB house then? Can't have it both ways can some

this could be down to any number of reasons -

[Josy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

If Gary was a housemate in civilian BB, with no "fame" everyone would be baying for him to be booted!

I doubt it.

He has interesting things to say, he is interesting to watch, he hasn't said a bad word about anyone in there and yet look how they have treated him.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

I doubt it.

He has interesting things to say, he is interesting to watch, he hasn't said a bad word about anyone in there and yet look how they have treated him.

If I hadn't watched celeb apprentice I would be convinced Gary was a poor old man being picked on too. But I'm a bit dubious. He was disruptive and a wind up at times and he drove them nuts on it as well. You seen a lot more of him in action. He had bad social skills, he was rude, inconsiderate and not a team player. When they tried to reason with him he would thank them and say he loved them so that hasn't changed either. He didn't have much of a hearing problem either, but that may have gotten worse.

Two shows with around 24 people - they can't all be uncaring and heartless to whatever degree, it doesn't compute. So it's common sense to assume the main problem stems from Gary himself. I don't think he's fake, I think that is just him. I fully believe what the HM's are saying and I think the editing is misleading. 40 minutes of live feed can't possibly give a true picture. I was hoping that he would drive them all mad, and he is - only we are not really seeing why so we are missing out, I think.
He certainly causes controversy wherever he goes, which makes him a great HM!

[CaudleHalbard]

People are far too black and white about this. It could be partially an act and/or not very good acting.... but just good enough to fool the viewers.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

People are far too black and white about this. It could be partially an act and/or not very good acting.... but just good enough to fool the viewers.

Or it could be that most of his fans don't really give two hoots and watch him because they like him.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Josy

Or it could be that most of his fans don't really give two hoots and watch him because they like him.

If Gary was a housemate in civilian BB, with no "fame" everyone would be baying for him to be booted!

[Suze]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

If Gary was a housemate in civilian BB, with no "fame" everyone would be baying for him to be booted!

You don't know that at all, that is an assumption. However, it is also a moot point as he is not in ordinary BB, he is in Celeb BB, and the biggest Celeb and imho the most entertaining Celeb in that house also

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Suze

You don't know that at all, that is an assumption. However, it is also a moot point as he is not in ordinary BB, he is in Celeb BB, and the biggest Celeb and imho the most entertaining Celeb in that house also

I don't find him entertaining even on the carefully edited highlights.

We are never shown the bits where he barges into people's conversations, tells housemates to shut up etc etc. Clearly this happens from comments by other housemates.

You can be sure if this civilian BB, and the producers were not trying to protect their "big star", we would see a fuller picture.

[NotAWannabe]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

If Gary was a housemate in civilian BB, with no "fame" everyone would be baying for him to be booted!

Gary and Helen in the same house. Now that would have been interesting.

[mary poppins]

Gary is not fake he's rude! We are not being shown it enough and every time the other hm have a go at him over it the public scream bullying.

Having watched last nights Show again I believe everyone was upfront and honest (Stephanie was a bit over the top).

People were on here giving out about dee's reason for George, her reason was the high pitched screeching voice at 2 in the morning

Claire gave the same reason no one mentions it here.

Stephanie and James were laughing and joking at the table she shouldn't have been given a warning and her noms shouldn't have been discounted.

There are nine or ten people in that house who are looking for a little bit of respect from Gary...they can't all be wrong...no matter what age you are respect works both ways.

BB are definitely very manipulative this time round.

They will wait till the last couple of day and show all his faults and that's when the public goes bonkers!

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

People are far too black and white about this. It could be partially an act and/or not very good acting.... but just good enough to fool the viewers.

The hardened BB viewers look for all things within a HM and at the end of the day it is the best player which should win. I honestly cannot see anything of worth with the Brits in there and, with the exception of Frenchy, the other Americans.

[LukeB]

i dont think gary is fake!

he is 70 years old! of course he will have problems by then its natural,

yes it can be annoying when someone repeats yourself over and over but gary is nearly deaf and its unfair on others moaning(meaning the housemates) about it, he did not ask for it did he?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by ebandit

not surprisingly gary is a product of hollywood messy hair carefully held in place with spray

he has been taught 'spirituality' but lacks compassion/awareness to best utilise what he has learned

an academy nominated actor who was shown without direction to be a poor actor ( balloons task ? )

does gary wear a hearing aid? if not...............why not?

a 'tough guy' actor unwilling to spend the night outside during a british summer.............under shelter with a nice warm blanket

Mark L

Spirituality is something which comes from within, we cannot really be taught it. Many shy away from any suggestion of different aspects of life.

He was brilliant in the balloon test but of course the rest didnt want to save him, they thought they knew best. At 70 leaway should be made for someone not to have to sleep out in the cold. Many a Hm, some in their 50s, have been let off tasks because of medical reasons. It was just unfortunate that this was made public to the whole house. We seem to have forgotten also one or two others being annoyed with it all. Not to worry though, they arent Gary so it is ok. They were allowed the sympathy and comfort of the other HMs. It isnt the warm blanket that counted, it was the fact that the body was doubled up. Gary put up with it until 1.30am he tried his hardest to get comfortable but he even had trouble getting up to find the loo. He had the courage to ask to go inside, rightly so it was granted.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by ebandit

not surprisingly gary is a product of hollywood messy hair carefully held in place with spray

he has been taught 'spirituality' but lacks compassion/awareness to best utilise what he has learned

an academy nominated actor who was shown without direction to be a poor actor ( balloons task ? )

does gary wear a hearing aid? if not...............why not?

a 'tough guy' actor unwilling to spend the night outside during a british summer.............under shelter with a nice warm blanket

Mark L

Outside at night with the temp at between 6-8 degrees centigrade is not an easy thing, even less so for someone in their 70's.

None of your examples indicate that he's fake either.

[HBB1508]

I don't think it's Gary that is fake I think it's all in the editing - Gary admits he spits on the floor but we haven't been shown this at all - I couldn't live with someone who did that, yet they show Lauren peeing in the pool. I get the feeling we are all being played on this one - even though I find Gary very entertaining I get the feeling a lot of his bad behaviour isn't being shown.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I don't think it's Gary that is fake I think it's all in the editing - Gary admits he spits on the floor but we haven't been shown this at all - I couldn't live with someone who did that, yet they show Lauren peeing in the pool. I get the feeling we are all being played on this one - even though I find Gary very entertaining I get the feeling a lot of his bad behaviour isn't being shown.

You mean Gary admitted he spat on the floor then said he knows he can't do that now? I'm pretty sure they were talking about during the Agents task too when he had to eat horrible things.

It was mentioned only once it's not as if they are all saying it and I'm sure that would have been a very valid nomination reason had it still been happening..

So what about the live feed then? we saw the isolating on there even more than the edited highlights?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Josy

You mean Gary admitted he spat on the floor then said he knows he can't do that now? I'm pretty sure they were talking about during the Agents task too when he had to eat horrible things.

It was mentioned only once it's not as if they are all saying it and I'm sure that would have been a very valid nomination reason had it still been happening..

So what about the live feed then? we saw the isolating on there even more than the edited highlights?

That was disgusting tbh and Madam Dee goes to Stephanie to comfort her and tell her that they will both go to the DR the next day. Stephanie had been caught out in more ways than one, she was sulking in her bed. James was lecturing Gary in his condescending way and then comforting Stephanie and the pair of them made fun of Gary. Mmmm spoilt child syndrome and egoistic male and Gary says "thankyou".....

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jules2

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That was disgusting tbh and Madam Dee goes to Stephanie to comfort her and tell her that they will both go to the DR the next day. Stephanie had been caught out in more ways than one, she was sulking in her bed. James was lecturing Gary in his condescending way and then comforting Stephanie and the pair of them made fun of Gary. Mmmm spoilt child syndrome and egoistic male and Gary says "thankyou".....

Yeah I know, that's one of the most annoying things.

Gary hasn't said a bad word about any of them in there yet every time James gives him one of his 'talking to's' Gary ends up apologising? wtf

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah I know, that's one of the most annoying things.

Gary hasn't said a bad word about any of them in there yet every time James gives him one of his 'talking to's' Gary ends up apologising? wtf

He hasn't, I am really also getting more annoyed at James too for the way he really talks down to him,even when he is trying to do something constructive as to Gary.

All this nonsense of I have tried to be a friend to you and it just gets thrown back is ridiculous, the only reason,I think, In the main, that James does try anything with Gary is because he was 'asked' to by BB early in the series.

From much of his actions with Gary, it seems he is doing what BB asked him too very reluctantly.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Josy

You mean Gary admitted he spat on the floor then said he knows he can't do that now? I'm pretty sure they were talking about during the Agents task too when he had to eat horrible things.

It was mentioned only once it's not as if they are all saying it and I'm sure that would have been a very valid nomination reason had it still been happening..

So what about the live feed then? we saw the isolating on there even more than the edited highlights?

To be fair he could be alluding to the task but he may not be and yes it would be a valid reason for nominating him but maybe there are other reasons that fit in with the whole BB scenario.

I watched the live feed last night and quite honestly - apart from the end in the kitchen I didn't see much of him being isolated - just some rather mean comments when people had finished speaking to him BUT they are aware that they are on live feed and I'm sorry to say that I find it all very manipulated since it moved onto C5 hence I just can't buy in to the whole Gary is being bullied bit at the moment.

Just my opinions I'm afraid.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

To be fair he could be alluding to the task but he may not be and yes it would be a valid reason for nominating him but maybe there are other reasons that fit in with the whole BB scenario.

I watched the live feed last night and quite honestly - apart from the end in the kitchen I didn't see much of him being isolated - just some rather mean comments when people had finished speaking to him BUT they are aware that they are on live feed and I'm sorry to say that I find it all very manipulated since it moved onto C5 hence I just can't buy in to the whole Gary is being bullied bit at the moment.

Just my opinions I'm afraid.

Fair enough.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I don't think it's Gary that is fake I think it's all in the editing - Gary admits he spits on the floor but we haven't been shown this at all - I couldn't live with someone who did that, yet they show Lauren peeing in the pool. I get the feeling we are all being played on this one - even though I find Gary very entertaining I get the feeling a lot of his bad behaviour isn't being shown.

I thought this too last night,he admitted to spitting on the floor and people claim he's being bullied about hygiene I wonder why ? dirrrttttyyyyy gett !!

[Pincho Paxton]

Gary is not fake.

[ebandit]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Gary is not fake.

gary is an actor...............do you expect to see him without his make up?

F A K E !

saying everyone is his friend.............saying thanks! to those who criticise

he is acting......................F A K E !

Mark L

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ebandit

gary is an actor...............do you expect to see him without his make up?

F A K E !

saying everyone is his friend.............saying thanks! to those who criticise

he is acting......................F A K E !

Mark L

You sure do dot a lot!