[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't get it. She couldn't provide for her kids so she claimed benefits, now she can provide for her kids so she's not claiming benefits. What else would you want her to do? ****ing stupid reason not to like somebody.

No decent person is ever going to attack another simply because that other is on benefits. However, when it is apparent that someone is not only abusing the benefits system but is also on a national TV show where she has exposed herself as a foul-mouthed, vindictive, vicious, 2 faced, backstabbing, lying self-seeker, then that's a different matter. Add to the forgoing, the fact that she also stole £13,000 from the needy, then take into account that she organised master classes in duping the benefits system, and has the temerity to deny ever drinking champagne in the face of dozens of photos taken on a luxury holiday which show her swigging magnums of the stuff, and I think you may start to understand why she is so unpopular on here. Finally, her reason for claiming benefits was that she was suffering depression and unable to work. I have seen no sign of that depression in those dozens of holiday photos referred to, or in her tv appearances. A miraculous recovery worthy of Lourdes.

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No decent person is ever going to attack another simply because that other is on benefits. However, when it is apparent that someone is not only abusing the benefits system but is also on a national TV show where she has exposed herself as a foul-mouthed, vindictive, vicious, 2 faced, backstabbing, lying self-seeker, then that's a different matter. Add to the forgoing, the fact that she also stole £13,000 from the needy, then take into account that she organised master classes in duping the benefits system, and has the temerity to deny ever drinking champagne in the face of dozens of photos taken on a luxury holiday which show her swigging magnums of the stuff, and I think you may start to understand why she is so unpopular on here. Finally, her reason for claiming benefits was that she was suffering depression and unable to work. I have seen no sign of that depression in those dozens of holiday photos referred to, or in her tv appearances. A miraculous recovery worthy of Lourdes.

hallelujah

[JoshBB]

She had benefits because she needed them, the same way pensioners need them in some scenarios. That's not scrounging.

[abhorson]

Never heard of her before BB and i hope not to after BB.

Just another in long list of shows like TOWIE, GS, binmen, scrappers that get lucky. Won't include MIC because they are wealthy anyway.

[ThriceShy]

Dee should not even be there. BB seems very keen these days to reward undeserving people. Connor, Helen and now Dee.

Thieving scroungers should not be lauded and rewarded on live TV.

[Forgetmenot]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Dee should not even be there. BB seems very keen these days to reward undeserving people. Connor, Helen and now Dee.

Thieving scroungers should not be lauded and rewarded on live TV.

The public rewarded Helen and I assume Conner. Dee is allowed to get on with her life.BB invited gopher to this show, she did not aim a gun st BB heads and demand a place::

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Forgetmenot

The public rewarded Helen and I assume Conner. Dee is allowed to get on with her life.BB invited gopher to this show, she did not aim a gun st BB heads and demand a place::

Some of the public rewarded Helen.

Conner rewarded himself.

With Dee, i agree.

[ThriceShy]

Don't forget that Dee was stealing the money to give to crack dealers.

She is a veritable robin hood. Robbing from poor vulnerable people to give it to even poorer smackheads.

[cushty]

This is my last post on this thread. After reading all the excuses given for Dee, I still cannot see how she can say she has turned her life round by not receiving benefits now. If you think that receiving money for being in BB is earning it then think again. She is doing no different to what she does at home (free meals, rent free and smoking like a trooper). When BB finishes how long will it be before she is back on benefits? Watch this space.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by cushty

This is my last post on this thread. After reading all the excuses given for Dee, I still cannot see how she can say she has turned her life round by not receiving benefits now. If you think that receiving money for being in BB is earning it then think again. She is doing no different to what she does at home (free meals, rent free and smoking like a trooper). When BB finishes how long will it be before she is back on benefits? Watch this space.

She finished being on benefits BEFORE Big Brother.

They're all receiving a fee for appearing on a television show. That's how TV works.

If in the future she struggles to find work when her 5 minutes of fame inevitably ends then she's entitled to it.

[abhorson]

Just an example. 13,000 lost their jobs in the docks in the NE about 15 years ago. Within two months there were an extra 10,000 on disability benefit for the region.

Call me cynical.

But it is still a great system for those in real need.

[cushty]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Just an example. 13,000 lost their jobs in the docks in the NE about 15 years ago. Within two months there were an extra 10,000 on disability benefit for the region.

Call me cynical.

But it is still a great system for those in real need.

I know I said previously that it would be my last post, but I just needed to state that I totally agree with you

[puzzled]

It's useless to compare people's reactions to their depression because there are several kinds of depression--major depression, atypical depression, dysthmia, psychotic depression, situational, and others. None of us knows what kind of depression Dee might have had, and we have to bear in mind that many people do recover, so her behaviour on Benefits Street doesn't indicate what she might have had, or not had, either.

Situational depression is triggered by events such as loss of a loved on, while major depression is a beast that descends for no particular reason at all.

I don't like Dee even a little bit, but only she knows how debilitating her depression was. I don't like her behaviour in the house and the way she treats people. For me, that's enough reason to dislike her, whatever the reasons for her receiving benefits.

[Jamesy]

Dee I find to be a tricky one. Just judging from her personality, to me she looks like your bog standard scrounger, she knows the benefits system inside out and knows what you can do to be able to get benefits in the long run. Depression is actually a good way to get past being pushed for a job when on benefits. As long as you go to a crap doctor they can probably diagnose you with depression in a flash, as long as you're good at acting (I know a fair few people on benefits who have done this in the short term with 'mild depression').

On the other hand, maybe Dee really was depressed, did really need benefits and really is trying to turn her life around.

Either way no one in this thread can say they're right. Unless you know Dee personally and don't go off what a benefits documentary or what local newspaper sites say, you're not going to have a clue whether Dee is a scrounger, or a woman who has had a bad past and wants to change it.

[abhorson]

Get off that Liberal pedalstall Marsh. For your own good.

Just trying to help.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by abhorson

Get off that Liberal pedalstall Marsh. For your own good.

Just trying to help.

Don't pretend to know me, you don't.

You not being able to accept others opinions is your own problem. I suggest you go away and deal with it, learn from it.

Just trying to help.

[Johnnyuk123]

Knowing many people with depression you lot on here are posting shyte way off the mark on this serious issue and it is very insulting especially to those people suffering with depression.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Knowing many people with depression you lot on here are posting shyte way off the mark on this serious issue and it is very insulting especially to those people suffering with depression.

I am one of those people.

You're spouting generalisations when the facts of the matter are that no two cases are the same. You are the one being offensive.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I am one of those people.

You're spouting generalisations when the facts of the matter are that no two cases are the same. You are the one being offensive.

No two cases on any ailment are the same. But depression is mocked by many sadly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

No two cases on any ailment are the same.

Yet you insisted Dee can't be depressed because she hasn't spoken in the diary room about it because depressed people apparently can't go three days without falling low.

[Tip]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Knowing many people with depression you lot on here are posting shyte way off the mark on this serious issue and it is very insulting especially to those people suffering with depression.

I'm trying and trying - but I'm not quite convinced by your self-professed expertise. I will try do better later

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Knowing many people with depression you lot on here are posting shyte way off the mark on this serious issue and it is very insulting especially to those people suffering with depression.

I have also known people with depression and they don't feel the need to talk about it every 3 days, as you claim is their joint cycle of depression, doesn't mean they were faking it.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

I have also known people with depression and they don't feel the need to talk about it every 3 days, as you claim is their joint cycle of depression, doesn't mean they were faking it.

Are you talking about people on medication or not on medication?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Are you talking about people on medication or not on medication?

Both... your vast generalisation of people suffering from a disease that affects people in so many different ways is staggering and borderline offensive.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Both... your vast generalisation of people suffering from a disease that affects people in so many different ways is staggering and borderline offensive.

And you are talking from experience?