[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Trust and believe she has done no damage whatsoever to her rep.

She's been exactly what we all would have hoped.

A sheep would have arse licked the public and gone in with an agenda to bringing Hopkins down....Nadia anyone...

Michelle has befriended Katie knowing how much the public despise her.

Because she can see that Hopkins is a decent person

You believe what you like, from where I'm standing she is a hate filled nasty so and so that isn't even attempting to protect one who belongs to a group she is supposed to be championing.

[Tip]

As more people go, I'm hoping that Michelle will make a judgement on how things are going and step up.

[Kazanne]

Michelle is human , we are all bitchy , two faced and hypocritical at times and yes nasty aswell. I like her,she doesn't have to fawn over anyone,unlike some.

[Jason.]

I love how the OP is desperate to restore Michelle's popularity.
It's not as if she's very unpopular. Some people still like her and she's in the Top 3 in majority of polls.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...explodes-perez

She doesn't care that you hate that she wants to be Hopkins friend.

She's the definition of fabulous

But you evidently do, considering the amount of threads you need to make on the matter.

[-Sue-]

The thing that sticks in my head is the double standard - Michelle thinks i's great to be friends with whomever you like (for which I agree) BUT her actions and words within the house prove because her BFF Katie dislikes Perez so does she...and all those that talk to Perez are tarred with the same hate .. and I just think wait? what? you can't say in one breath 'be friends with who you like' but in the next breath hate on someone who is friends with someone you do not like!

Nadia is that friend..she is the 'scorned' woman simply for whom she talks to... she is friends with Perez..(whom is a bit like marmite) but for some reason his antics ok so annoying IMO and on a daily basis I ask myself 'Perez why are you doing that' at least he is not mean or using words to ridicule hate etc...Perez is a much better person (in the house) funny over hate anyday...

all I have seen of Michelle is siding with Katie.. on every subject.. despite how hateful Katie's words could be hardly the person she says she is..little miss agreeable so she doesn't look bad? who knows..a dissapointing HM who seems to have made no attempt to get to know any of the other HM's unless they come to her

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

The thing that sticks in my head is the double standard - Michelle thinks i's great to be friends with whomever you like (for which I agree) BUT her actions and words within the house prove because her BFF Katie dislikes Perez so does she...and all those that talk to Perez are tarred with the same hate .. and I just think wait? what? you can't say in one breath 'be friends with who you like' but in the next breath hate on someone who is friends with someone you do not like!

Nadia is that friend..she is the 'scorned' woman simply for whom she talks to... she is friends with Perez..(whom is a bit like marmite) but for some reason his antics ok so annoying IMO and on a daily basis I ask myself 'Perez why are you doing that' at least he is not mean or using words to ridicule hate etc...Perez is a much better person (in the house) funny over hate anyday...

all I have seen of Michelle is siding with Katie.. on every subject.. despite how hateful Katie's words could be hardly the person she says she is..little miss agreeable so she doesn't look bad? who knows..a dissapointing HM who seems to have made no attempt to get to know any of the other HM's unless they come to her

Absolutely not.

Michelle has her own problems with Perez.

Michelle has and always will be a pioneer.

She's a leader not a follower.

She may be slightly more passive in this house, but she has her opinions

[bots]

It would be nice if people opened their eyes to the true nature of their favourite rather than try and find excuses for everything that they do and say

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It would be nice if people opened their eyes to the true nature of their favourite rather than try and find excuses for everything that they do and say

She hasn't DONE anything. She's stayed true to her self.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

She hasn't DONE anything. She's stayed true to her self.

Not saying much, is it

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Absolutely not.

Michelle has her own problems with Perez.

Michelle has and always will be a pioneer.

She's a leader not a follower.

She may be slightly more passive in this house, but she has her opinions

Ok so why is she hating on Nadia? guilt by association? Nadia has done her no wrong other than talking with Perez.. but yet Michelle has made no attempt to get to know Nadia.. (Nadia clearly can't approach Michelle as her and Katie are joined at the hip) But Nadia has at least made the effort.. to talk to all of her fellow HMs Michelle IMO sits by katie and that's it!..everyone has to come to her!

In the house Michelle is not being who she says she is..

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

Ok so why is she hating on Nadia? guilt by association? Nadia has done her no wrong other than talking with Perez.. but yet Michelle has made no attempt to get to know Nadia.. (Nadia clearly can't approach Michelle as her and Katie are joined at the hip) But Nadia has at least made the effort.. to talk to all of her fellow HMs Michelle IMO sits by katie and that's it!..everyone has to come to her!

In the house Michelle is not being who she says she is..

She's hating on Nadia because Nadia has come into the show with an agenda and pre conceptions about people. Preconceptions she will NOT LOOK PAST.

Michelle and nadia get on, but Nadias complete refusal to see Perez for what he is because it would some how be her allowing Katie H to win is just ridiculous.

The whole issue in the house boils down to Nadias Preconceptions about Katie

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

She's hating on Nadia because Nadia has come into the show with an agenda and pre conceptions about people. Preconceptions she will NOT LOOK PAST.

Michelle and nadia get on, but Nadias complete refusal to see Perez for what he is because it would some how be her allowing Katie H to win is just ridiculous.

The whole issue in the house boils down to Nadias Preconceptions about Katie

Nadia knows what Perez is after all she is friends with him! But the point is Nadia see's Perez for how he treats her (makes her laugh) and the injustice done by Katie H (and some other members of the house) everytime he walks into a room. Nadia is a great lady... the mum.. the parental figure...(hard to turn off the defense mechanism)..

I can see why Nadia backs away from Katie H (her opinions words IMO are dreadful enough for me to put tampons in my ears vile words making my ears bleed) ugh! Katie just says the most god-awful things Im sorry but I would want to stay away from that too not my idea of fun or entertainment!

Just a shame that Michelle hasn't really interacted with other HMs and that all day long everyday she seems glued to katie *sigh*

for me Michelle is about as entertaining as cleaning my oven..(did not watch or know of her show before CBB started) complete clean slate.. for me there is just no entertainment.. at least Perez can simply stand up against a glass window and wave and Katie goes nuts! lol that to me is funny.. its not nasty its not mean its simply standing there .. waving.. no hate.. noone got harmed but Katie and Michelle lost the plot over it! lol

[Lostie!]

My issue isn't even simply that she's friends with Hopkins. Alicia liked her by the end, that didn't taint my opinion of her. Michelle, and not her friendships, is to blame for her own behaviour that contradicts how she claimed she would be before entering the house.

Alicia developed a friendship with Hopkins and still vocally challenged her whenever she said something she disagreed with. Michelle says nothing and puts it down to the fact that "you're never going to change her". It's not about changing her, it's about standing by your own principles. Or alleged principles, which I say because Michelle herself dabbled in not-very-nice behaviour herself, especially where Alicia was concerned.

I haven't seen the "I'll say it to your face / I defend the underdogs" Michelle in there, and that's why I've gone off her. I don't think she's a bad person or a bully, but she's underwhelmed me (and evidently some others). We're entitled to feel that way, regardless of your militant opposition to anything slightly anti-Michelle.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

My issue isn't even simply that she's friends with Hopkins. Alicia liked her by the end, that didn't taint my opinion of her. Michelle, and not her friendships, is to blame for her own behaviour that contradicts how she claimed she would be before entering the house.

Alicia developed a friendship with Hopkins and still vocally challenged her whenever she said something she disagreed with. Michelle says nothing and puts it down to the fact that "you're never going to change her". It's not about changing her, it's about standing by your own principles. Or alleged principles, which I say because Michelle herself dabbled in not-very-nice behaviour herself, especially where Alicia was concerned.

I haven't seen the "I'll say it to your face / I defend the underdogs" Michelle in there, and that's why I've gone off her. I don't think she's a bad person or a bully, but she's underwhelmed me (and evidently some others). We're entitled to feel that way, regardless of your militant opposition to anything slightly anti-Michelle.

Nicely put

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

My issue isn't even simply that she's friends with Hopkins. Alicia liked her by the end, that didn't taint my opinion of her. Michelle, and not her friendships, is to blame for her own behaviour that contradicts how she claimed she would be before entering the house.

Alicia developed a friendship with Hopkins and still vocally challenged her whenever she said something she disagreed with. Michelle says nothing and puts it down to the fact that "you're never going to change her". It's not about changing her, it's about standing by your own principles. Or alleged principles, which I say because Michelle herself dabbled in not-very-nice behaviour herself, especially where Alicia was concerned.

I haven't seen the "I'll say it to your face / I defend the underdogs" Michelle in there, and that's why I've gone off her. I don't think she's a bad person or a bully, but she's underwhelmed me (and evidently some others). We're entitled to feel that way, regardless of your militant opposition to anything slightly anti-Michelle.

I don't know how many times i have to rake over the same things

Michelle DID NOT bitch about Alicia

She joined a conversation in which Chloe and Cami where bitching but didn't join in. She relayed Alicias story to the girls to give them some perspective on Alicias life.

She merely told the girls about the surgeries and the exes.

HOW in any way shape or form is that BITCHING?

[bots]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I don't know how many times i have to rake over the same things

Michelle DID NOT bitch about Alicia

She joined a conversation in which Chloe and Cami where bitching but didn't join in. She relayed Alicias story to the girls to give them some perspective on Alicias life.

She merely told the girls about the surgeries and the exes.

HOW in any way shape or form is that BITCHING?

With love, I'm going to stop responding to your threads because you are unable to listen to any other point of view, so responding is pointless

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I don't know how many times i have to rake over the same things

Michelle DID NOT bitch about Alicia

She joined a conversation in which Chloe and Cami where bitching but didn't join in. She relayed Alicias story to the girls to give them some perspective on Alicias life.

She merely told the girls about the surgeries and the exes.

HOW in any way shape or form is that BITCHING?

You don't have to rake over anything. You choose to respond. Simply decline to if you don't wish to discuss anything.

I never used the word "bitching" in my post, and I wasn't referring to that specific situation. Though, on that subject, someone who claims to be supportive of the underdogs then being involved in a gossip (a gossip that got particularly nasty) about the personal life of someone and voicing no objection doesn't seem right to me.

Regardless, I was speaking more generally rather than in reference to that one situation. She kicked off the banana drama by quietly telling the others about "dingbat" taking the bananas, when the "I say it to your face" Michelle should have surely confronted Alicia straight-up, and the "I support the underdogs" Michelle certainly shouldn't have used a term to insult the intelligence level of someone who was clearly a bit of a misfit with that particular group, so there's two instances right there.

Nevermind the fact that she continued to defend the nastiness of her friends (lecturing Alicia about Perez while seeing no problem with how Cami treated her, outright defending Cami when she brought Alicia's family into it) and blaming Alicia being a "victim" on herself. Victims are results of the treatment of others, and laying the blame with her was low. Again, that's not very supportive of a misfit, is it?

I don't expect a rational, calm response, because you just see an anti-Michelle post and fly into a rage. If you're sick of "raking over" things, feel free to ignore this.

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I don't know how many times i have to rake over the same things

Michelle DID NOT bitch about Alicia

She joined a conversation in which Chloe and Cami where bitching but didn't join in. She relayed Alicias story to the girls to give them some perspective on Alicias life.

She merely told the girls about the surgeries and the exes.

HOW in any way shape or form is that BITCHING?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...g-Brother.html

^^ never say never

[Samm]

It's pathetic that people have turned on her for liking Katie

Katie Hopkins & Michelle are probably one of the best CBB friendships ever <3

[camertone]

i hate her, she is a hypocrite and a bitch, she even has the bitch face to prove it.

[smudgie]

Baaaa. Baaa.
All I see is a sheep.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Baaaa. Baaa.
All I see is a sheep.

Baa Baa all i see is a forum sheep.

Its cool to like Perez on the forum because its anarchic to go against popular opinion.

your following your own heard there babes

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Baa Baa all i see is a forum sheep.

Its cool to like Perez on the forum because its anarchic to go against popular opinion.

your following your own heard there babes

Just because our opinion doesn't match yours doesn't make us bad people..just means we think differently

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Baa Baa all i see is a forum sheep.

Its cool to like Perez on the forum because its anarchic to go against popular opinion.

your following your own heard there babes

Well "babes", go find me a post showing I am a Perez fan.
He is as big a nutter as Katie H.
I can find him entertaining a weird way at times, but definitely not a fan.


As a Nadia fan, it appears I don't follow the herd.