[Crimson Dynamo]

Now they are attacking women

Youtube video

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Now they are attacking women

Youtube video

Please stop saying 'they'. we are not a collective army or 'one', i am completely disgusted by the violence

[Denver]

That man needs a taste of his own medicine voilence is far worse then homophobia

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by adamski94

That man needs a taste of his own medicine voilence is far worse then homophobia

Tell that to the families of victims of homophobia who killed themselves.

Words can be just as harmful and dangerous as actions.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Tell that to the families of victims of homophobia who killed themselves.

Words can be just as harmful and dangerous as actions.

Too true. Like Antisemitism and racism, it's bullying pure and simple, and there is absolutely no justification for any bully to pick on anyone else ever, just because he feels he can. It's always sweet to me when the supposed 'victim' retaliates and 'masters' the bully.

I won't shed any tears for the bastard. If he 'lived and let live' he wouldn't have got a pasting. Simple as.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Tell that to the families of victims of homophobia who killed themselves.

Words can be just as harmful and dangerous as actions.

What gives someone the right to beat someone lifeless? If everyone battered someone everytime the said something nasty to them we would all be serving time in prison

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by adamski94

What gives someone the right to beat someone lifeless? If everyone battered someone everytime the said something nasty to them we would all be serving time in prison

Sorry? I don't recall suggesting anything of the sort. I wasn't even talking about the video in the post you replied to, merely your claim that "violence is worse than homophobia", which I disagree with because of the amount of people who've died (either through murder or suicide) because of homophobia. Why does either have to be worse when they're both terrible?

As for the video, I don't think the other guy should have done what he did, he went way too far. That said, like I said before people can snap when pushed far enough. His actions being wrong doesn't automatically make the other guy a victim deserving of sympathy if he did indeed taunt him with homophobic slurs imo.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Sorry? I don't recall suggesting anything of the sort. I wasn't even talking about the video in the post you replied to, merely your claim that "violence is worse than homophobia", which I disagree with because of the amount of people who've died (either through murder or suicide) because of homophobia. Why does either have to be worse when they're both terrible?

As for the video, I don't think the other guy should have done what he did, he went way too far. That said, like I said before people can snap when pushed far enough. His actions being wrong doesn't automatically make the other guy a victim deserving of sympathy if he did indeed taunt him with homophobic slurs imo.

But was the man homophobic to start with?

[Kizzy]

It doesn't show what the guy did.... it's a really brutal attack though, even if the guy was homophobic it doesn't justify this :/

[Samm]

To be honest I don't really care about the guy if he said something homophobic, the attack is wrong I agree

but this would be getting a different reaction if he said something racist

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

To be honest I don't really care about the guy if he said something homophobic, the attack is wrong I agree

but this would be getting a different reaction if he said something racist

Racist, sexist, whatever it doesn't excuse this level of violence.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

To be honest I don't really care about the guy if he said something homophobic, the attack is wrong I agree

but this would be getting a different reaction if he said something racist

How perfectly true Sam.

[Glenn.]

No one can really comment unless you're in that situation. Sometime disgusting people deserve disgusting consequences.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Glenn

No one can really comment unless you're in that situation. Sometime disgusting people deserve disgusting consequences.

Never been insulted, oh I have ... I didn't kick them half to death though :/

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Never been insulted, oh I have ... I didn't kick them half to death though :/

Quite admirable, but your choice of reaction does not automatically render someonme elses as wrong. Who knows if this gay guy had not suffered a lifetime of being bullied because of his own very personal sexuality? Who knows whether he had previously been badly beaten by a gang of fascist homophobic brain-deads, or even hospitalised by such when hopelessly outnumbered?

The simple inescapable truth is; that had the obnoxious bully kept his big mouth shut and lived and let live, he would not have had his ass whupped.

If only every schoolkid who right at this moment is suffering bullying could 'turn' and comprehensively whup their tormentors. If only every battered wife could do the same. If only every innocent Jew who is being spat on or abused for no other reason than he is a Jew could retaliate and whup their bullying fascist abusers.

If only.

I won't lose one moment's sleep over this bullies come-uppance - nor shed one crocodile tear.

Yes, the gay guy might have 'gone too far' but he wouldn't have 'gone' at all would he? if the obnoxious bully had not invaded his personal space and left him alone.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Quite admirable, but your choice of reaction does not automatically render someonme elses as wrong. Who knows if this gay guy had not suffered a lifetime of being bullied because of his own very personal sexuality? Who knows whether he had previously been badly beaten by a gang of fascist homophobic brain-deads, or even hospitalised by such when hopelessly outnumbered?

The simple inescapable truth is; that had the obnoxious bully kept his big mouth shut and lived and let live, he would not have had his ass whupped.

If only every schoolkid who right at this moment is suffering bullying could 'turn' and comprehensively whup their tormentors. If only every battered wife could do the same. If only every innocent Jew who is being spat on or abused for no other reason than he is a Jew could retaliate and whup their bullying fascist abusers.

If only.

I won't lose one moment's sleep over this bullies come-uppance - nor shed one crocodile tear.

Yes, the gay guy might have 'gone too far' but he wouldn't have 'gone' at all would he? if the obnoxious bully had not invaded his personal space and left him alone.

We come in half way through the kicking though so we have no idea what triggered it. It looks a bit staged to me.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Quite admirable, but your choice of reaction does not automatically render someonme elses as wrong. Who knows if this gay guy had not suffered a lifetime of being bullied because of his own very personal sexuality? Who knows whether he had previously been badly beaten by a gang of fascist homophobic brain-deads, or even hospitalised by such when hopelessly outnumbered?

The simple inescapable truth is; that had the obnoxious bully kept his big mouth shut and lived and let live, he would not have had his ass whupped.

If only every schoolkid who right at this moment is suffering bullying could 'turn' and comprehensively whup their tormentors. If only every battered wife could do the same. If only every innocent Jew who is being spat on or abused for no other reason than he is a Jew could retaliate and whup their bullying fascist abusers.

If only.

I won't lose one moment's sleep over this bullies come-uppance - nor shed one crocodile tear.

Yes, the gay guy might have 'gone too far' but he wouldn't have 'gone' at all would he? if the obnoxious bully had not invaded his personal space and left him alone.

I wasn't going to reply to her but this tbh

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Quite admirable, but your choice of reaction does not automatically render someonme elses as wrong. Who knows if this gay guy had not suffered a lifetime of being bullied because of his own very personal sexuality? Who knows whether he had previously been badly beaten by a gang of fascist homophobic brain-deads, or even hospitalised by such when hopelessly outnumbered?

The simple inescapable truth is; that had the obnoxious bully kept his big mouth shut and lived and let live, he would not have had his ass whupped.

If only every schoolkid who right at this moment is suffering bullying could 'turn' and comprehensively whup their tormentors. If only every battered wife could do the same. If only every innocent Jew who is being spat on or abused for no other reason than he is a Jew could retaliate and whup their bullying fascist abusers.

If only.

I won't lose one moment's sleep over this bullies come-uppance - nor shed one crocodile tear.

Yes, the gay guy might have 'gone too far' but he wouldn't have 'gone' at all would he? if the obnoxious bully had not invaded his personal space and left him alone.

Well, that's a nice hypothetical, am I the only person who sees this vid from the point where the guy is actually being attacked? I haven't seen what happened before.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well, that's a nice hypothetical, am I the only person who sees this vid from the point where the guy is actually being attacked? I haven't seen what happened before.

You obviously did not read or did not understand my other post a few posts up from this one, so I will repost part of it:

"We can only comment based on the premise of LT's Thread Title; "The Gays Are Fighting Back", which definitely implies that the gay guy was REACTING not ACTING.

Similarly, the preamble of the linked footage DEFINITELY STATES that the bully STARTED on the gay guy without reason and the gay guy REACTED;

"Man, insults Gay and get beat on the subway"
"A man insulted a gay, in the subway, and was beaten .."

This being the FACTS, we are justified in working from the premise that the gay guy was minding his own business and that the beaten guy was the loud-mouthed offensive aggressor."


Not so 'hypothetical' now is it?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Glenn

No one can really comment unless you're in that situation. Sometime disgusting people deserve disgusting consequences.

Absolutely correct. If the bullying prick had kept his fascist opinions to himself and lived and let live, he wouldn't have been whupped. Simple as.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Glenn

No one can really comment unless you're in that situation. Sometime disgusting people deserve disgusting consequences.

If you ask me that man wanst homophobic it was an unprovoked act and to think everyone stood there and let it happen there all disguisting creatures with no morales

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

If you ask me that man wanst homophobic it was an unprovoked act and to think everyone stood there and let it happen there all disguisting creatures with no morales

But you don't know he wasn't homophobic. And I'd say the opposite. Everyone watching obviously thought he deserved it or they would have helped.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Glenn

But you don't know he wasn't homophobic. And I'd say the opposite. Everyone watching obviously thought he deserved it or they would have helped.

I dont care whether what anybody has said or done nobody deserves to be beatento death and that man didnt look like he was moving one bit.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by adamski94

I dont care whether what anybody has said or done nobody deserves to be beatento death and that man didnt look like he was moving one bit.

Again. You don't know whether he's dead.

[Liam-]

Karma's a bitch.