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VTS was the reason why we could never get Conor out of the house.
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i don't know i mean look at Pav and Zoe getting more votes than Bianca
This, Biannca was clearly the biggest character of the 3 and she still got the least votes.
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VTS was the reason why we could never get Conor out of the house.
Agree.

I don't get why so many love VTS.

VTE was present throughout the entire eleven years on Channel 4, and those series are held in much higher regard than BB12 and BB13, which had VTS.

VTE didn't ruin BB5/BB6/BB7, as far as I remember.
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This, Biannca was clearly the biggest character of the 3 and she still got the least votes.
Yes, and in BB13.
The first eviction, Conor got a massive 65%, leaving Victoria and Lydia battling out with a modest 17%.

I don't remember Conor being entertaining at all in the first week, to warrant having such a massive landslide of votes to save.

VTS encourages the "tween vote".
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Agree.

I don't get why so many love VTS.

VTE was present throughout the entire eleven years on Channel 4, and those series are held in much higher regard than BB12 and BB13, which had VTS.

VTE didn't ruin BB5/BB6/BB7, as far as I remember.
VTE did kill that series imo, by the time you enter week 8 you just want to slit your own wrists.

Well not literally.

But I do get your point that series with VTE in them do tend to be more popular than the ones with VTS.
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Yes, and in BB13.
The first eviction, Conor got a massive 65%, leaving Victoria and Lydia battling out with a modest 17%.

I don't remember Conor being entertaining at all in the first week, to warrant having such a massive landslide of votes to save.

VTS encourages the "tween vote".
My worst nightmare.

Well 2nd to heights.
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VTE did kill that series imo, by the time you enter week 8 you just want to slit your own wrists.

Well not literally.

But I do get your point that series with VTE in them do tend to be more popular than the ones with VTS.
Oh yeah, I forgot you rage quit that series.
But still, most evictions would've been the same with a VTS, in BB7.

Grace still would've had fewer votes than Nikki in a VTS. Probably like 82% to Save Nikki, and 18% to Save Grace.

Lea would definitely still have gone over Richard in a VTS. Richard = 60% to Save, and Lea = 40% to Save.

Imogen again would've got fewer votes than Richard, in a VTS. Richard = 67% to Save, and Imogen = 33% to Save.

The only eviction which needed VTS, was Week 8.
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i don't know i mean look at Pav and Zoe getting more votes than Bianca
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But still, most evictions would've been the same with a VTS, in BB7.

Grace still would've had fewer votes than Nikki in a VTS. Probably like 82% to Save Nikki, and 18% to Save Grace.

Lea would definitely still have gone over Richard in a VTS. Richard = 60% to Save, and Lea = 40% to Save.

Imogen again would've got fewer votes than Richard, in a VTS. Richard = 67% to Save, and Imogen = 33% to Save.

The only eviction which needed VTS, was Week 8.
Lea had more fans than Richard though so that could've swung the other way.

Sadly you have a point on the others though as the public was too entwined with Dull Pete.
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If anything Bianca had the most airtime
...yes, that's what I said. Airtime doesn't equal votes.
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...yes, that's what I said. Airtime doesn't equal votes.
Biannca had more life in her 3 day stint than most of the cast put together though which was a shame.
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I always think it's slightly mad when you realise that Dexter would have gone first if it had been VTS in BB14.
Tbh, the fact that Conor stayed as long as he did will forever shade VTS for me. Plus, VTE resulted in some incredible evictions last year.
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Yes, vote to evict got rid of Tamara last year - but vote to save got rid of Biannca in the same series so I don't really know why the vote to save argument is so often used, especially when the 'golden era' of Big Brother all used vote to evict.
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Yes, vote to evict got rid of Tamara last year - but vote to save got rid of Biannca in the same series so I don't really know why the vote to save argument is so often used, especially when the 'golden era' of Big Brother all used vote to evict.
TBH, if BB15 had been VTS, Channel 5 would've only got about 100,000 votes cast throughout the entire series - seriously who'd actually spend money voting to save a BB15 housemate.

The only evictions in BB15 that would've had a different outcome would be Week 3 and Week 4.
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VTS was the reason why we could never get Conor out of the house.
Very true. For every entertaining housemate worth keeping that VTS might save, it also tends to keep around some of the nastiest housemates because being awful is apparently entertaining too for some. Not to mention some housemates who you'd expect to survive on VTS have ended up leaving.

I enjoy seeing the horrible ones being evicted with a majority eviction vote, it's just satisfying for me (much more so than having them kept around and essentially endorsing their behaviour). Also, that was the format used on C4 for many years (the same BB that people always accuse C5 BB of being inferior to) so I don't personally get the issue some people have with VTE.
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TBH, if BB15 had been VTS, Channel 5 would've only got about 100,000 votes cast throughout the entire series - seriously who'd actually spend money voting to save a BB15 housemate.

The only evictions in BB15 that would've had a different outcome would be Week 3 and Week 4.
Well people spent lots of money voting for people to win in the final, so I don't see why they wouldn't vote to keep their fave housemate in... as it gets them one step closer to the final
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Jale going in week 1 would have been perfect tbh
Tbh under VTS every week this is how it probably would've gone during BB15.

Btw anyone that survives the week they got evicted irl will just go up in the next round.

Week 1 - Danielle vs Jale vs Tamara - Tamara evicted
Week 2 - Ash vs Chris vs Christopher vs Marlon vs Pauline vs Steven - Steven evicted
Week 3 - Ash vs Chris vs Christopher vs Danielle vs Jale vs Marlon vs Pauline vs Toya vs Winston - Pauline evicted
Week 4 - Ash vs Christopher vs Mark vs Matthew vs Winston - Ash evicted
Week 5 - Ashleigh vs Chris vs Christopher vs Jale vs Matthew vs Toya - Toya evicted
Week 6 - Still would've been the same picks
Week 7 - Ashleigh vs Jale vs Matthew vs Pav vs Zoe - Pav evicted
Week 8 - Chris vs Jale vs Matthew vs Zoe - Zoe evicted
Week 9 - Chris vs Christopher vs Jale vs Mark vs Matthew vs Winston - Mark & Matthew evicted
The Final - Ashleigh vs Chris vs Christopher vs Jale vs Helen vs Winston


6th Place - Chris
5th Place - Jale
4th Place - Winston
3rd Place - Christopher
2nd Place - Ashleigh
Winner - Helen

So there was a few differences, but not as big as some would like it.
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Well he had more fans than Steven who didn't have any, and with Pauline I'm assuming that her haters would vote for him just to see her leave.
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It was hard with Matthew, but he did have a cultish fan base that definitely would've had him beat Ash in week 4.
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