[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

well the public has a deep history of sexism and racism so,

People psychologically tend to support people of the opposite gender in unisex competitions of any kind, and that's what I think it is as the male audience tends to always support female contestants on BB, but it doesn't get noticed as much because about 70% that vote on any Reality Show is older women, and then about 15 to 20% are teen girls.

Basically no sexism is involved really just psychology.

I do agree with you that there is racism on BB, or if not racism then xenophobia as any black culture from the black contestants always sees them hated and booted out the door.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

People psychologically tend to support people of the opposite gender in unisex competitions of any kind, and that's what I think it is as the male audience tends to always support female contestants on BB, but it doesn't get noticed as much because about 70% that vote on any Reality Show is older women, and then about 15 to 20% are teen girls.

Basically no sexism is involved really just psychology.

I do agree with you that there is racism on BB, or if not racism then xenophobia as any black culture from the black contestants always sees them hated and booted out the door.

Well, guess what. You think you are a genius of psychotherapy... You are wrong. Females vote more than me. So what????

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Well, guess what. You think you are a genius of psychotherapy... You are wrong. Females vote more than me. So what????

Well it means that it's more likely for them to get the result that they want than you will on the result that you want.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

We all know Harry, Jade and Sam will be evicted shortly and Chloe has the best chance of winning but she will be lucky to get to the final.

What a flop series as highlighted by one of the worst male casts making it further than the much stronger female cast. It would not surprise me if we get an all-male final.

Nikki please come back and win

Jade isn't going anywhere there are plenty of heads on the block before her. Sam and Chloe will out before her

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Jade isn't going anywhere there are plenty of heads on the block before her. Sam and Chloe will out before her

(Both females )

[ruiphillips]

The females have been utter **** this series. tbh

[Macie Lightfoot]

The fact that a woman has been evicted first every year, the fact that black women are almost always evicted at the first opportunity, the fact that Channel 5 almost only casts women who are actresses/models/sex workers, the fact that Channel 5 issued a statement saying that Hazel had it come when Daley almost raped her, the fact that the public sympathized with Siavash when he cheated on his girlfriend because they hated Noirin, etc.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

The fact that a woman has been evicted first every year, the fact that black women are almost always evicted at the first opportunity, the fact that Channel 5 almost only casts women who are actresses/models/sex workers, the fact that Channel 5 issued a statement saying that Hazel had it come when Daley almost raped her, the fact that the public sympathized with Siavash when he cheated on his girlfriend because they hated Noirin, etc.

Its women that vote on this show its women that vote each other out . Daly nearly raped Hazel ?. What planet do you live on their was never any rape attempt at all or insinuation your dreaming stuff up now.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Its women that vote on this show its women that vote each other out .

that doesn't change the fact that it's sexist, and in that case self-loathing.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

that doesn't change the fact that it's sexist, and in that case self-loathing.

I call it female nature .

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

The fact that a woman has been evicted first every year, the fact that black women are almost always evicted at the first opportunity, the fact that Channel 5 almost only casts women who are actresses/models/sex workers, the fact that Channel 5 issued a statement saying that Hazel had it come when Daley almost raped her, the fact that the public sympathized with Siavash when he cheated on his girlfriend because they hated Noirin, etc.

Interesting...you think Channel 5 is sexist against Hazel (female!) in this case?

Presumably, you would be quoting them as racist against Daley (black!) had they taken the opposite angle.

That's very neat. If they're not sexist, they're racist and vice versa!

Of course, all these arguments do is dilute the power of genuine victims of such behaviour.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Absorption

Interesting...you think Channel 5 is sexist against Hazel (female!) in this case?

Presumably, you would be quoting them as racist against Daley (black!) had they taken the opposite angle.

That's very neat. If they're not sexist, they're racist and vice versa!

Of course, all these arguments do is dilute the power of genuine victims of such behaviour.

I haven't mentioned anything about black males being discriminated against (have there been any examples, really) so no, I would not have taken the opposite angle. It was very clear that Daley was out of order. HOWEVER,

http://www.digitalspy.com/british-tv...peMmdjAH5jw4Lt

Channel 5 also suggested that it was a matter of editorial integrity to show the scenes - as it may have impacted viewers' voting decisions - and alleged that Hazel did not appear too distressed by the situation, partly because she did not confide in fellow housemate Dan.

Channel 5 added that Big Brother changed its usual format to show both the confrontation and Daley's eviction in one episode, so that no viewers were left wondering what had happened, but controversially also suggested that Hazel had some responsibility for the incident.

Claiming that Hazel was not a "naive debutante", the broadcaster claimed that she was a "dominant and aggressive force" during the duo's previous playfighting and that she was "fully aware of her feminine charms and was unashamed about using them to get her way".

"The simple inalienable fact is that, but for Hazel's aggressive sexual conduct, the confrontation which results in Daley's eviction would not have occurred - or at least would not have occurred in the way it did," Channel 5 added.

Sorry, but this is a ****ing disgusting and inexcusable stance to take.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I haven't mentioned anything about black males being discriminated against (have there been any examples, really) so no, I would not have taken the opposite angle. It was very clear that Daley was out of order. HOWEVER,

http://www.digitalspy.com/british-tv...peMmdjAH5jw4Lt



Sorry, but this is a ****ing disgusting and inexcusable stance to take.

As I seem to remember it Hazel tried to pull his pants down then slapped him on the ass .he retaliated by getting right up in her face and threatening to headbutt her . BB was right to kick him out however Hazel should have almost certainly have been kicked out as well for her part in it . I fail to seen the part of it where daly nearly raped Hazel that you claimed a few posts back your desperately fishing for nonsense to support your stance which is based on pure emotions and not facts.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

As I seem to remember it Hazel tried to pull his pants down then slapped him on the ass .he retaliated by getting right up in her face and threatening to headbutt her . BB was right to kick him out however Hazel should have almost certainly have been kicked out as well for her part in it . I fail to seen the part of it where daly nearly raped Hazel that you claimed a few posts back your desperately fishing for nonsense to support your stance which is based on pure emotions and not facts.

That's the same scene I saw too.

It doesn't fit Macie's agenda though so it didn't happen that way.

[Pete.]

Women do not represent all of the voters lol. It's mainly white women voting out black women then? That's scary

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Umm, sorry. If you don't think the female voters are in the majority you are deluding yourself.

Listen, a middle aged white woman went tonight so bringing up racial prejudice says more about you than anything else. Grow up.

only after a black woman went two weeks ago?

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

only after a black woman went two weeks ago?

Are you forgetting Makosi one of the most popular HM's of all time is a black Woman

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Are you forgetting Makosi one of the most popular HM's of all time is a black Woman

Only with select people online. If you remember her reaction on final night - and how I'd imagine the general public remembers her - it's far from popular.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by MB.

Only with select people online. If you remember her reaction on final night - and how I'd imagine the general public remembers her - it's far from popular.

And if someone for whom the crowd calling her a 'liar' on finale night was them at their kindest during that interview is your best example of the public liking black women then... oh dear.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by MB.

Only with select people online. If you remember her reaction on final night - and how I'd imagine the general public remembers her - it's far from popular.

Aaron, white male, got booed. He won. Who are these select?

Are you subtlety calling the voters racist?

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

only after a black woman went two weeks ago?

Look, I'm not getting involved in those discussions. I liked her alot. She shouldn't have gone but you are looking at all her positives without her negatives. The casual viewer mostly saw her talking about pus*y. That's how the edited it. Get mad at them not the voters.

[Daniel.]

The public is obviously sexist when it comes to BB

Is there any point debating to people who can't see it?

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

The public is obviously sexist when it comes to BB

Is there any point debating to people who can't see it?

Obviously not now that we've got a definitive answer. Thanks,

[Macie Lightfoot]

You also forgot the part where he threw her down on the bed and put his hands around her throat, and Channel 5 puts the blame on Hazel because she apparently said at one point that she likes being choked in sex or whatever and it absolutely was a potential rape scenario, there's nothing emotional about it. If you can't see that you're in denial.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

You also forgot the part where he threw her down on the bed and put his hands around her throat, and Channel 5 puts the blame on Hazel because she apparently said at one point that she likes being choked in sex or whatever and it absolutely was a potential rape scenario, there's nothing emotional about it. If you can't see that you're in denial.

No rape happened no rape was insinuated its all in your head im afraid