[Christmas Dynasnow]

lady sonia she aint

[Liam-]

I was one of them, I've just had a name change since then

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I was one of them, I've just had a name change since then

What was your old name ?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What was your old name ?

LiamPRW

[Jack_]

Regardless of who it is or whether you like a housemate or not or whether they're a person down the street or your arch enemy, there is nothing wrong with being an escort, a prostitute, a stripper, a model, a cam girl etc etc etc

Each to their own, live and let live, their body, not yours, etc etc etc. Same ****, different year. Still irrelevant as ever.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Regardless of who it is or whether you like a housemate or not or whether they're a person down the street or your arch enemy, there is nothing wrong with being an escort, a prostitute, a stripper, a model, a cam girl etc etc etc

Each to their own, live and let live, their body, not yours, etc etc etc. Same ****, different year. Still irrelevant as ever.

Once they step over the threshold into the BB house we can judge them

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Once they step over the threshold into the BB house we can judge them

Yes...judge them on their actions in the house. I'm not disputing that, that's the point of the show. But what relevance does someone's life outside the house have to their appearance on a television show? The point of Big Brother (and most other reality shows with civilian contestants for that matter) is to judge all of the participants with a blank slate based upon what they do on the show, not on how they live their lives outside of it which quite frankly is no one's business.

I understand you and others don't like Harry, and I also understand the reasons why based on her behaviour in the house, but I really don't understand what is relevant about what a housemate's career is outside of the house, who they're friends with, what they do, etc etc. We don't see that inside of the house so fishing for information to criticise them with just seems very petty and unnecessary to me.

And as a separate point - regardless of any of this, take away the fact we're talking about Big Brother. There is nothing wrong with being a prostitute, a stripper, a cam girl etc etc etc. It's their body and their life, so long as everything is consensual and above board, I don't see the issue.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes...judge them on their actions in the house. I'm not disputing that, that's the point of the show. But what relevance does someone's life outside the house have to their appearance on a television show? The point of Big Brother (and most other reality shows with civilian contestants for that matter) is to judge all of the participants with a blank slate based upon what they do on the show, not on how they live their lives outside of it which quite frankly is no one's business.

I understand you and others don't like Harry, and I also understand the reasons why based on her behaviour in the house, but I really don't understand what is relevant about what a housemate's career is outside of the house, who they're friends with, what they do, etc etc. We don't see that inside of the house so fishing for information to criticise them with just seems very petty and unnecessary to me.

And as a separate point - regardless of any of this, take away the fact we're talking about Big Brother. There is nothing wrong with being a prostitute, a stripper, a cam girl etc etc etc. It's their body and their life, so long as everything is consensual and above board, I don't see the issue.

Defend Harry, slag off Marc, me finks double standards at hand here.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Defend Harry, slag off Marc, me finks double standards at hand here.

Excuse me? Marc is my favourite of the newbies, one of my favourite housemates of the entire series and also the housemate I want to win at the moment

Where on earth have I slagged off Marc?

Defend Marc, slag off Harry in your case more like

[Knispel]

This is from a link on her twitter to her cam setup page

"Frequently Asked Questions...
Q. Can I take you shopping? A. Of course, but I will need proof of your funds first. I am liable to spend at least Ł2000. Oh and yes, you must carry my bags.
Q. Can I pay you to pretend to be my girlfriend at an event? A. Yes you can, I have done this many times before. This is not an excuse to get me into bed, I still won't have sex with you.
Q. Can I be your financial slave/sugar daddy? A. Yes you may, but a prior warning - my appetite for bleeding your wallet dry is insatiable...
Q. Will You meet me for sex? A. I HAVE NEVER BEEN PAID FOR SEX. I have been offered Ł13500 for half an hour in a hotel room and I turned it down because the offer was too low, so please DO NOT offend me by asking... MY LITTLE PRINCESS PUSSY IS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR YOU... You're not worthy!!!! "

http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=2316320

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Knispel

This is from a link on her twitter to her cam setup page

"Frequently Asked Questions...
Q. Can I take you shopping? A. Of course, but I will need proof of your funds first. I am liable to spend at least Ł2000. Oh and yes, you must carry my bags.
Q. Can I pay you to pretend to be my girlfriend at an event? A. Yes you can, I have done this many times before. This is not an excuse to get me into bed, I still won't have sex with you.
Q. Can I be your financial slave/sugar daddy? A. Yes you may, but a prior warning - my appetite for bleeding your wallet dry is insatiable...
Q. Will You meet me for sex? A. I HAVE NEVER BEEN PAID FOR SEX. I have been offered Ł13500 for half an hour in a hotel room and I turned it down because the offer was too low, so please DO NOT offend me by asking... MY LITTLE PRINCESS PUSSY IS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR YOU... You're not worthy!!!! "

http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=2316320

The BIB is the only important thing from that, proving she is not a prostitute and now those petty accusations can be put to bed

[y.winter]

Yes she is. No decency there.

[fitz2k2]

google her vids

[Vicky.]

As a dominatrix, I imagine sometimes she may go further than the role actually requires, if the cash is there.

Same as escorts really..people will tell you til they are blue in the face that escorts don't sleep with their clients..and I would bet some don't, but many do. I actually know 2 escorts (well, one ex) who claim that its just glorified (and more expensive) prostitution. One is my partners fathers current partner. She got up to 400 quid an HOUR for sleeping with the guys, one hundred for the usual 'date' rubbish.

I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, honestly, if I was in that line of work and an attractive guy paid me an extra 500 quid to sleep with him, it would be happening. This is an extremely controversial opinion and I expect to get slated for it, however, I do not see it as that much different to a woman (or man, but thats not as common) allowing someo0ne to buy her drinks all night to sleep with her

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As a dominatrix, I imagine sometimes she may go further than the role actually requires, if the cash is there.

On her site she specifically states she does NOT sleep with clients and has turned down substancial sums.

[bots]

She is primarily a cam model. You can be a dominatrix on cam too. Also, much of this domination stuff revolves around finance rather than anything sexual where the dominated just hands over their cash .... takes all sorts

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As a dominatrix, I imagine sometimes she may go further than the role actually requires, if the cash is there.

Same as escorts really..people will tell you til they are blue in the face that escorts don't sleep with their clients..and I would bet some don't, but many do. I actually know 2 escorts (well, one ex) who claim that its just glorified (and more expensive) prostitution. One is my partners fathers current partner. She got up to 400 quid an HOUR for sleeping with the guys, one hundred for the usual 'date' rubbish.

I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, honestly, if I was in that line of work and an attractive guy paid me an extra 500 quid to sleep with him, it would be happening. This is an extremely controversial opinion and I expect to get slated for it, however, I do not see it as that much different to a woman (or man, but thats not as common) allowing someo0ne to buy her drinks all night to sleep with her

Hellsbell, didn't realise it was that lucrative.
I agree with you 100%, I can't see anything wrong with it at all.
As long as it's a personal choice and you enjoy it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Hellsbell, didn't realise it was that lucrative.
I agree with you 100%, I can't see anything wrong with it at all.
As long as it's a personal choice and you enjoy it.

I know. I can't completely honestly say I wasn't slightly tempted by that tbh.

She was a 'high-class' escort, as apparently that makes a difference Not sure what the requirements are to earn as high, considering she was addicted to heroin at the time too

[DemolitionRed]

She's a financial Dominatrix and she admitted this on the first few days in the house. This apparently means she mainly does this stuff online via cam and takes money for it.

I looked her up when she first entered the house and found about a dozen videos of her being spanked. Naughty schoolgirl type stuff.

She once did some modelling for House of Harlot and Torture Garden, so she's been a fetish model but I would of thought she's now too big.

She uses the word 'wife' as a term of endearment. Lots of people on social media sites now name best friends as 'brother/sister' and so on. Wife normally means someone you live with and get on well with and that you probably have a sexual relationship with them but that could be casual or serious or it could just be put out there to say she's unavailable.

Harry is very comfortable with her own body. She's equally comfortable sleeping in a bed with a friend, even if that friend happens to be a man.

IMO none of those things make her a slapper, though I do see financial domination as a greedy and manipulative way to make money. Sex work often involves no sex at all but if its titillating then in my opinion it is sex work.... I say, each to there own. If its not hurting anyone why slate it.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

She's a financial Dominatrix and she admitted this on the first few days in the house. This apparently means she mainly does this stuff online via cam and takes money for it.

I looked her up when she first entered the house and found about a dozen videos of her being spanked. Naughty schoolgirl type stuff.

She once did some modelling for House of Harlot and Torture Garden, so she's been a fetish model but I would of thought she's now too big.

She uses the word 'wife' as a term of endearment. Lots of people on social media sites now name best friends as 'brother/sister' and so on. Wife normally means someone you live with and get on well with and that you probably have a sexual relationship with them but that could be casual or serious or it could just be put out there to say she's unavailable.

Harry is very comfortable with her own body. She's equally comfortable sleeping in a bed with a friend, even if that friend happens to be a man.

IMO none of those things make her a slapper, though I do see financial domination as a greedy and manipulative way to make money. Sex work often involves no sex at all but if its titillating then in my opinion it is sex work.... I say, each to there own. If its not hurting anyone why slate it.

Thanks for that info'. It doesn't detract from the fact I think she is a s*** that hasn't got the brains to get a real job but whips old men with hernias, and sucks the toes of other women.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Thanks for that info'. It doesn't detract from the fact I think she is a s*** that hasn't got the brains to get a real job but whips old men with hernias, and sucks the toes of other women.

This is where I disagree. To me, a slut is a person who can't say 'no' and sleeps with everyone and anyone because she/he doesn't want to disappoint. We don't know that Harry sleeps around and from the sound of it, she's very particular about who she has sex with. For me, anyone in control of there own sexuality isn't a slut...I know opinions vary and this is just mine.

As for getting a real job, my question would be, does she pay taxes? does she pay National Insurance Contributions?. If she does then we can't say this isn't a real job, if she doesn't then we have every right to condemn her, especially if she's making big money. Personally I would never do the kind of work she does, even if it trebled my income but I'm certainly not going to knock someone who ventures down that route. I think Harry is the sort of person who can laugh off the derogatory name calling and that's probably why she can handle the sort of work she does.

As for her personality in the house; from what I've seen so far (I'm oversees this week so missing it) she's a mediocre house mate. Nothing special, has a bit of a fiery temper but all in all, just not very viewable.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

This is where I disagree. To me, a slut is a person who can't say 'no' and sleeps with everyone and anyone because she/he doesn't want to disappoint. We don't know that Harry sleeps around and from the sound of it, she's very particular about who she has sex with. For me, anyone in control of there own sexuality isn't a slut...I know opinions vary and this is just mine.

As for getting a real job, my question would be, does she pay taxes? does she pay National Insurance Contributions?. If she does then we can't say this isn't a real job, if she doesn't then we have every right to condemn her, especially if she's making big money. Personally I would never do the kind of work she does, even if it trebled my income but I'm certainly not going to knock someone who ventures down that route. I think Harry is the sort of person who can laugh off the derogatory name calling and that's probably why she can handle the sort of work she does.

As for her personality in the house; from what I've seen so far (I'm oversees this week so missing it) she's a mediocre house mate. Nothing special, has a bit of a fiery temper but all in all, just not very viewable.

Yeah she probably pays her NI contributions but I doubt she pays much tax.

I am not accusing her of anyting but I don't think every minute detail of her work goes on her self assessment.

'...was paid Ł80 for ****ing some old guy off.'

[jennyjuniper]

She said she charges 60 quid for foot fetishists to suck her toes and fondle her feet.- Last night she said she had given and recieved golden showers (no charge was discussed) and she is trying to promote her web cam business (according to Danny I think) So all in all, yes I would class Harry as a prostitute.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

She said she charges 60 quid for foot fetishists to suck her toes and fondle her feet.- Last night she said she had given and recieved golden showers (no charge was discussed) and she is trying to promote her web cam business (according to Danny I think) So all in all, yes I would class Harry as a prostitute.

She also said sucking her toes makes men orgasm(then quickly back peddled) so that is prostitution too ,she's so proud of her golden showers and the rest,what a lovely girl she is

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She also said sucking her toes makes men orgasm(then quickly back peddled) so that is prostitution too ,she's so proud of her golden showers and the rest,what a lovely girl she is

Her and Joel would make a good couple,they could have great 'piss' ups