[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

You're post became invalid when you mentioned the Aaron incident.

He was naked and slapping his dick on Joel. He bent over and spread his ar*ehole in Joel's face. How in the name of christ that put you off Joel I do not know. Nonsense.

Mate that was quality.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

You're post became invalid when you mentioned the Aaron incident.

He was naked and slapping his dick on Joel. He bent over and spread his ar*ehole in Joel's face. How in the name of christ that put you off Joel I do not know. Nonsense.

Because he got his friend thrown out over a drunken joke gone wrong, BB had already told Aaron off earlier in the night so there was no need for Joel to stick the Knife in more.

My biggest issue with Joel is how he rehearses everything that he does, he didn't really care about Sam's eviction, just that it made him look good to “not want to vote anyone of them out” Nick felt much more genuine with his defense of Sam because it was much more subtle and looking less like he was trying to impress the public (btw I dislike Nick more than Joel) my other issue with Joel is that he'll only take on people who are either thick (Danny) or people that are in such a rage in the heat of the moment that they can't articulate themselves properly (Sarah) and of course his gonna look better in the arguments when you see the other two behave like the way they did, but if you look at the underlining factor of both arguments they have more valid points in their arguments against Joel than he does against them.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Because he got his friend thrown out over a drunken joke gone wrong, BB had already told Aaron off earlier in the night so there was no need for Joel to stick the Knife in more.

My biggest issue with Joel is how he rehearses everything that he does, he didn't really care about Sam's eviction, just that it made him look good to “not want to vote anyone of them out” Nick felt much more genuine with his defense of Sam because it was much more subtle and looking less like he was trying to impress the public (btw I dislike Nick more than Joel) my other issue with Joel is that he'll only take on people who are either thick (Danny) or people that are in such a rage in the heat of the moment that they can't articulate themselves properly (Sarah) and of course his gonna look better in the arguments when you see the other two behave like the way they did, but if you look at the underlining factor of both arguments they have more valid points in their arguments against Joel than he does against them.

He got Aaron thrown out?... Are people actually listening to themselves?

He got bollock naked. He mounted a teenager. He mounted him and slapped his dick on him. Flashed his dick towards him. Spread his arsehole in his face. A *****ing drunk joke gone wrong?!... Honestly, WTF?

Sarah and Danny had it in for Joel from day 1. They saw someone that people might like and were whispering about him. The 4 in 4 out thing was terrible but at least it put to bed the inevitable Sarah, Danny, Kieran, Chloe clique. Danny was resourcful though and recruited others, I'll give him that.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

He got Aaron thrown out?... Are people actually listening to themselves?

He got bollock naked. He mounted a teenager. He mounted him and slapped his dick on him. Flashed his dick towards him. Spread his arsehole in his face. A *****ing drunk joke gone wrong?!... Honestly, WTF?

Sarah and Danny had it in for Joel from day 1. They saw someone that people might like and were whispering about him. The 4 in 4 out thing was terrible but at least it put to bed the inevitable Sarah, Danny, Kieran, Chloe clique. Danny was resourcful though and recruited others, I'll give him that.

You do realise that Aaron's not much older than Joel right?

And I agree that Sarah and Danny have always had it in for Joel, but I do think that Joel has given them reasons for him to be disliked by them now as his not very loyal, he got Sarah's friend out of the house and then started dancing around wearing women's clothing like nothing had happened.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by LuciaX

Well that was never going to happen because Danny just made the decision and the two sheep nodded their heads like good little lambs for their shepherd.

Joel just didn't want a say in it. Sometimes your posts are a little stupid

Same way I saw it.

[TheMachine]

You are very blatant with your posts beetle, discredit Joel because you think hes Jack's biggest comp?.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by TheMachine

You are very blatant with your posts beetle, discredit Joel because you think hes Jack's biggest comp?.

I suspect Chloe will win to be honest

[Jamesy]

Why would Joel walk because he disagrees with ONE thing that is thrown at them. Plus when he could potentially have Ł126k this time next week. Hardly going to walk out in protest when there could be a big lump sum coming his way.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

Why would Joel walk because he disagrees with ONE thing that is thrown at them.

He's the one who's trying to make it look like he's taking a principled stance. But the truth is he isn't.

Plus when he could potentially have Ł126k this time next week. Hardly going to walk out in protest when there could be a big lump sum coming his way.

In other words he isn't the principled person he's trying to make himself out to be.

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

He's the one who's trying to make it look like he's taking a principled stance. But the truth is he isn't.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

He said he refused to take part in it... which he did. That's literally all that's to it. He doesn't need to walk out of the house to show a 'principled stance', he's already done that by refusing to do a 'flash vote' to eject someone.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

That makes no sense whatsoever.

It does if you can get your head around it.

He said he refused to take part in it... which he did. That's literally all that's to it.

Right, he saw an opportunity to try to make himself look good. If he truly believed what was being asked of him and others was wrong he would protest against the production team who put him in that position. But he doesn't. He tries to make others look bad instead. It was utterly self serving.

He doesn't need to walk out of the house to show a 'principled stance', he's already done that by refusing to do a 'flash vote' to eject someone.

No he hasn't. What he showed is that he'll make it look like he's taking a principled stance and smear his opponents when a vote to win is ongoing. If he was truly opposed to what happened he would take it out on the production team who were responsible for it. But he doesn't do that, because he isn't really opposed to anything that happened tonight, he's just trying to make himself look good and make the other HMs look bad.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Joel is the only one left that deserves to win.........why would he walk!!

[Mystic Mock]

The winner can't leave before the end.

Ch5's right wing agenda would be over if he left.

[Pete.]

I hope the snake does leave

[abhorson]

That clip with Aaron's dick near Joel's butt will mean that poor Joel could never one day become PM. An Ed Miliband tombstone moment!

Just imaging it at the dispatch box. The shadow leader always waving a copy around!

[camertone]

it was unfair eviction, good for joel for abstaining..

[smudgie]

I am afraid Joel backtracked on his stance when he said he did not want Chloe to go...so he did actually have some input.
As to him not wanting to vote, that would have been up to him, the same as wanting to vote was up to the rest of them.

[jet]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I am afraid Joel backtracked on his stance when he said he did not want Chloe to go...so he did actually have some input..

Yes, he was opting out but gave an opinion on who he wanted to keep. He was taking a so called principled stance, but at the same time got his say in. In other words, he wanted it both ways.

...and did people not see the convo between Christian and Joel tonight when Christian quoted him as saying to him 'You and Danny make the decision' and Joel agreed that he said that. So he wasn't averse to the decision being made to evict a HM by someone else AT ALL, just not by him.
I've really wanted to continue to like Joel as he was one of my early favs as my previous posts show, but he is coming across to me as more sanctimonious and holier - than - thou by the day and letting others take the heat and wriggling out of the latest twist has further disappointed me. Imo if he was really serious about his principles he would have laid heavily into BB in the diary room for putting himself AND his fellow HM's in that position and showed some understanding of the dilemma that those left to choose had to face, instead of laying into the other HM's for not vetoing it.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

If you're so principled.

But will he? Will he fook.

Joel is the most honest housemate left in there. It would have been easy for him to rattle off what Danny did that he was CLOSEST to Jack and Chloe but he was uncomfortable evicting a fellow housemate like that. I love him. There isn't a shred of fakeness in him. A true winner

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Joel is the most honest housemate left in there. It would have been easy for him to rattle off what Danny did that he was CLOSEST to Jack and Chloe but he was uncomfortable evicting a fellow housemate like that. I love him. There isn't a shred of fakeness in him. A true winner

Well said, another really good post.

[Vanessa]

Joel and Cristian friendship is the best thing in there for me. Chroel to win!

[abhorson]

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

[JamesBond]

Originally Posted by abhorson

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

LOL @ cockgate.

[Lampfan]

Originally Posted by abhorson

My take on cockgate for what it is worth.

If someone tells you to repeatedly stop something of that manor from Aaron and he went even further. He deserved to go. The BB rules were quite clear and drink was no excuse.

Nonsense. Surely it was Joel's fault?... I mean people spreading their ****hole in your face is the new hello. They'll also slap their cock on you if they really like you.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Lampfan

Nonsense. Surely it was Joel's fault?... I mean people spreading their ****hole in your face is the new hello. They'll also slap their cock on you if they really like you.

Sarcasm i hope. Either that or you misread my post.