[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Allegedly.

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.

That's the whole point though, as Ted Heath is no longer with us, anyone can say anything without fear of legal recourse. It could easily be a pack of lies, but it does no harm to investigate it in detail. Its not so long ago that Jimmy Saville was considered some sort of saint. Without the press and others publicising it, none of that would have come out. I still remember the BBC denying it was even possible at the time the story broke. Remember also the MP's expenses scandal and how that was broken by the press too

Allegations of this nature have to be investigated thoroughly, like them or loathe them, that's what the press is for.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly.

The way these things are conducted by the media is disgraceful,so called newspapers today for instance, have Edward Heath branded guilty already.
Yet as yet, there is not a single alleged incident that it appears could stand up in court.

Once the rotten media circus gets into full swing, it mystifies me then as to how it can ever really be,beyond all doubt,that anyone can be assumed to be guilty of such acts.

I really just don't know about this one but this is yet another scenario where the 'alleged' abuses can never be put to the person,who has all this going on as to them without ever being able to defend themselves against same.

Yes thats so Wrong of the Mirror.
They need to find his Security People
who had to protect him until he died
or something more solid

[hijaxers]

Wait and see Ted heath was a very evil man

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Wait and see Ted heath was a very evil man

Wait and see's right. Because without evidence the rest of your post means nothing. I doubt you know any more about him and his personal life than anyone else on here.

[empire]

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

[the truth]

the amount of money were spending investigating the deeds of dead people decades ago its a wonder weve got any resources left to uncover all the abuses going on NOW AND IN THE FUTURE?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by empire

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

Are you from Jersey Empire, wasn't there a scandal in that area involving a childrens home that children regularly disappeared from and they were found on the grounds?

[empire]

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

[Livia]

Originally Posted by empire

intruth it was no secret in jersey, that health would take boys from the childrens home, and take them on his boat, and come back with no children on it, the police know not to dare take on the establishment, or they would take there pensions, or die in a nasty accident,

Originally Posted by empire

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

Those are very serious allegations. If I thought for one moment that there was one iota of truth in what you're saying, I would forward your posts to the police. However, I think you just watch too much telly.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by arista

If this is True?
then its shocking.

They can not prove it
unless others come forward.

Oh ffs.... How much longer are we going to put up with this crap, the destruction of our most respected citizens their reputations shredded because some ****ing aids riddled rent boy thinks he can make a few bob selling lies to the Newspapers.

And these people are not around to defend themselves..

Disgusting... What sort of sad society have we become ?

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by empire

a relative of mine, was in the police forces, and knows two officers, who worked in jersey, and it was no secret, in the force, about ted health, those kids where dumped into the sea, you don't know what those mps, are into,

I read this for the first time the other day. Been claimed for a while it seems.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh ffs.... How much longer are we going to put up with this crap, the destruction of our most respected citizens their reputations shredded because some ****ing aids riddled rent boy thinks he can make a few bob selling lies to the Newspapers.

And these people are not around to defend themselves..

Disgusting... What sort of sad society have we become ?

'Most respected citizens' all animals are equal Nedusa you know that. Why are you suggesting the accuser has AIDS?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I read this for the first time the other day. Been claimed for a while it seems.

Claims without evidence are meaningless.

[Kizzy]

I doubt there will be a trail of semen from the nearest childrens home to his grave so they'll prob go to plan B and seek witnesses.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I doubt there will be a trail of semen from the nearest childrens home to his grave so they'll prob go to plan B and seek witnesses.

What a glib and rather sickening reply.

Witnesses are evidence, so long as their stories can be corroborated. That's what I meant. I assumed that would be obvious to most people. Clearly I was wrong.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

What a glib and rather sickening reply.

Witnesses are evidence, so long as their stories can be corroborated. That's what I meant. I assumed that would be obvious to most people. Clearly I was wrong.

But true enough sadly.
Is the 'rent boy' not evidence then? Let's hope there are more victims.. sorry, 'evidence' to come forward then.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

But true enough sadly.
Is the 'rent boy' not evidence then? Let's hope there are more victims.. sorry, 'evidence' to come forward then.

Do you understand the word "corroborate"?

Enough now Kizzy, I'm putting you back on ignore. This constant verbal fencing with you is so tedious.

[Kizzy]

Yes I do, that's fine I'm not fencing with you I'm just having my say on the topic.

[the truth]

isn't there a time limit on these claims? The way there is on claims of neglect against the nhs?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by the truth

isn't there a time limit on these claims? The way there is on claims of neglect against the nhs?

I was interested in that as well but apparently the rest of Europe it is 12 years with the exception being the UK in which there is no limit.
http://www.theopinionsite.org/should...on-sex-crimes/

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Livia

Claims without evidence are meaningless.

I never said otherwise.

Edit: Jimmy Savile's nephew says a friend was abused by Ted Heath today. He also says Savile took him to paedophile parties.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-Cornet.html

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

I was interested in that as well but apparently the rest of Europe it is 12 years with the exception being the UK in which there is no limit.
http://www.theopinionsite.org/should...on-sex-crimes/

TYPICAL ...BASKET CASE UK
they'll be claiming against Lloyd George next ffs
there has to be a time limit....meanwhile we can claim against dead great great great grandparents....but we cant claim if the wrong kidney is taken out after a few years....INSANE...WHY HAS NO POLITICIAN EVEN ADDRESSED THE INFINITE TIME LIMIT ON THIS NONSENSE

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Those older white powerful men...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Those older white powerful men...

DEAD