[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Pushing independence onto a child before they are developmentally ready is actually hugely detrimental to long-term self esteem and confidence, believe it or not. Might seem counterintuitive but it's a pretty well established fact.

Pushing children out of their comfort zone before they are ready results in an abnormal anxiety response. Repeating this established has the pavlova effect of creating a link between "unfamiliar situations" and "fear and anxiety", with the net result eventually being an adult who becomes fearful and anxious when confronted with unfamiliar situations (and they probably won't even know why they feel that way).

no, it's not an established fact at all. you need to stop reading Jenny mcarthy and alicia silverstone blogs.

children are not fragile little mommy's babies that those overprotective i love being a mommy, moms would have you think, the evidence actually goes the other way. children are incredibly capable of adapting to independence as long as they are surrounded by supportive parents that don't treat them with cotton wool.

you are just so wrong. it's insane how wrong you are.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think it's important to teach children to be independent and confident in themselves as quickly as possible. It's important for parents to push their children to learn for themselves, take risks, and be able to provide for themselves eventually, obviously it's also important for parents to also be supportive and to care for children while they are learning.

I believe it's always a good idea to build children's confidence by encouraging them to be as independent as possible. It just makes more sense that a child that is more capable of thinking for themselves and providing for themselves will be more successful.

I believe this long term breast feeding movement by some mothers is not helpful to a child's long term development. i believe it is a form of co-dependency, and co-dependency is a very toxic form of relationships.

So true Alex - Examination of most Serial Killer's childhoods reveal this 'unnatural' type of bond with their mothers.

It's NOT the norm. and it's freaky.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So true Alex - Examination of most Serial Killer's childhoods reveal this 'unnatural' type of bond with their mothers.

It's NOT the norm. and it's freaky.

well, i don't think serial killers are an appropriate pool to study, they are rare and usually have some kind of traumatic brain injury...

it's really not appropriate to compare serial killers to average human beings.

i'm definitely not saying that breast feeding too long leads to people being serial killers.

[user104658]

Unless she's trying to breastfeed you, Livia? Is she? Has this woman tried to forcibly feed you her milk? Because that's a whole other thread.

[arista]

Yes 6 year old
does not need to be breast feed
by that age its time to move on


Back on Topic

[Jake.]

this is the breast thread I've seen all day

[lostalex]

i feel uncomfortable judging about what women do to care for children. i'm a man so really i can't judge.

i'm only speaking from what i've noticed and or read. i don't think this woman should be persecuted or face any legal consequences, i'm just expressing my personal opinion.

[smudgie]

Poor kid.

It's one thng still sucking on the end of a titty at 6, its a sin and shame when your mother posts you at it for all to see on social media.
I should imagine she will have to have tough little shoulders to carry all the stck she will get from her peers, especially as she gets older.
The age does appear oddly old to me, but then mine were off baby milk of any kind at 6 and 4 months respectively
Ohhhh, and neither of them Have suffered in any way from it.

[user104658]

I guess, relevant to the thread topic, whether this is child driven or driven by the mother worth a personal crusade / not wanting her baby to grow up (both of these things do happen of course)... It certainly has absolutely nothing to do with sexual gratification or "paedophilia".

I maintain that anyone who sees breastfeeding and immediately make some connection to sex, are the ones who have a problem that they should look into.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I guess, relevant to the thread topic, whether this is child driven or driven by the mother worth a personal crusade / not wanting her baby to grow up (both of these things do happen of course)... It certainly has absolutely nothing to do with sexual gratification or "paedophilia".

I maintain that anyone who sees breastfeeding and immediately make some connection to sex, are the ones who have a problem that they should look into.

I agree TS, I don't think it has anything to do with sexual gratification at all.
Perhaps it makes either/both of them feel more secure or loved.
I just think it is wrong to go so public with it , for the child's sake.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I agree TS, I don't think it has anything to do with sexual gratification at all.
Perhaps it makes either/both of them feel more secure or loved.
I just think it is wrong to go so public with it , for the child's sake.

That much I agree with, many parents are far too quick to disregard their children's privacy and autonomy and assume that they have the right to decide for them. That applies to all sorts of things really... I can't stand it when parents think that they "own" their kids.

... I actually know a girl whose nearly 30 and her parents still behave that way.

[user104658]

I'm convinced that people are confused and think that nipples are tiny penises. This is the only explanation for the revulsion / outrage.

And don't get me started on people comparing breastfeeding to taking a piss or a ****... I'm usually a Freud skeptic but things like this make me reconsider I've even seen breastmilk compared to semen. It's absolutely insane.

If someone covered my cornflakes in bull spunk I'd be ****ing fuming.

[the truth]

tell me the bit about squeezing her breasts through railings again.......

[the truth]

surely a non exhibitionist can breast feed with a small blanket covering her breasts...of course the liberals believe one can get ones baps out anywhere and everywhere and to not allow this at all times and places is misogyny.....lets see how the same people react when the nudists turn up in tescos

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

surely a non exhibitionist can breast feed with a small blanket covering her breasts...of course the liberals believe one can get ones baps out anywhere and everywhere and to not allow this at all times and places is misogyny.....lets see how the same people react when the nudists turn up in tescos

This thread hasn't at any point been about breastfeeding in public, truth...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by stephmonroe

I could never brest feed my son I think it's disgusting and inhumane to force sexual contact at that age.

This is the saddest thing I have ever read.

[Anaesthesia]

Originally Posted by stephmonroe

I could never brest feed my son I think it's disgusting and inhumane to force sexual contact at that age.

Steph, what do you actually think your breasts are FOR?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by stephmonroe

I could never brest feed my son I think it's disgusting and inhumane to force sexual contact at that age.

I'm going to assume you're trolling, rather than just stupid.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by stephmonroe

I could never brest feed my son I think it's disgusting and inhumane to force sexual contact at that age.

Most ridiculous post I've seen in Serious Debates for a long time. And let's face it, there has been some stiff competition.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most ridiculous post I've seen in Serious Debates for a long time. And let's face it, there has been some stiff competition.

Certainly the most ridiculous since the one where arts students were being conscripted and trained by robot dogs, to be futuristic ninja soldiers who defuse nuclear bombs.

No... actually this is more ridiculous.

[kirklancaster]

Power to Stephmonroe - It's high time every woman realised that breasts are exclusively for PARTNERS.