[lostalex]

such a silly publicity stunt. i can 500 people that would uproot a woman being slapped and chocking on a cock, that doesn't mean they all would do that to a woman though.

they should focus their energy on coming up with a solution to the problem instead of just ridiculing the people that are actually responsible for making policy. if you don't like the policy, come up with a better one. you live in a democracy!

the same people feeling so sorry for the immigrants will also be the first ones complaining about the wages falling because people are willing to do it for less, complaining about losing local culture.

mcdonalds is an immigrant too, but i bet you'd probably protest a mcdonalds opening up on your block forcing out the local burger joint, wouldn't you?

[Ammi]

..I agree with James, I think on the internet it's not necessarily that some will say what they really think but more what they think will provoke reaction and negatives will always provoke the most reaction...

..I'm a bit dubious about this as a social experiment type thing though...because if 'shaming/dehumanising' migrants is what is being fed, then doesn't this provoke a similar thing/feeling toward the 'DM reader section of society'...let's 'hate the haters', let's compare their comments to Nazi comments...it's just addressing a negative with another negative surely...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

doesn't this provoke a similar thing/feeling toward the 'DM reader section of society'...

This is a bit of a stretch surely Ammi . Justice for Daily Mail Internet Commentators! They're human too!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This is a bit of a stretch surely Ammi . Justice for Daily Mail Internet Commentators! They're human too!

..I'm really not with it this morning TS but hmmmm, not really../a stretch...if 'internet hate' has become a thing then so also has the 'hate of haters'...I mean it all builds hate on hate, doesn't it...don't we see that all of the time, someone is portrayed by the media as a hateful person or a completely negative person..(or a section of society is portrayed as such..)..so hate is directed toward them and then hate is directed toward the haters for their comments..?...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm really not with it this morning TS but hmmmm, not really../a stretch...if 'internet hate' has become a thing then so also has the 'hate of haters'...I mean it all builds hate on hate, doesn't it...don't we see that all of the time, someone is portrayed by the media as a hateful person or a completely negative person..(or a section of society is portrayed as such..)..so hate is directed toward them and then hate is directed toward the haters for their comments..?...

I guess it depends on your overall feelings towards "hatred", although I think hatred is too strong a word, and would rather go with disdain. In which case, it's (for me) perfectly justifiable to express disdain for people who choose to spit toxic, hateful and xenophobic bile over Internet comments sections. The position that immigrants should be allowed to drown / rounded up and shot with no concern at all for who they actually are as individuals, is not so justifiable.

[user104658]

In other words, I think it's wrong to hate people for arbitrary reasons (being female, being black, being gay, being a migrant) but I don't really have a problem hating people - as individuals - for demonstrably being horrible ****s.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I guess it depends on your overall feelings towards "hatred", although I think hatred is too strong a word, and would rather go with disdain. In which case, it's (for me) perfectly justifiable to express disdain for people who choose to spit toxic, hateful and xenophobic bile over Internet comments sections. The position that immigrants should be allowed to drown / rounded up and shot with no concern at all for who they actually are as individuals, is not so justifiable.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In other words, I think it's wrong to hate people for arbitrary reasons (being female, being black, being gay, being a migrant) but I don't really have a problem hating people - as individuals - for demonstrably being horrible ****s.

..but it doesn't mean that it's actual 'hate' felt because it's 'hate' expressed on the internet, I agree with James about that, I think these are often more things said for reactions so more an 'attention' thing...the things said about migrants are extreme yes, but isn't likening people's comments to Nazi comments also an extreme...?...both extreme negatives....

...tbh I'm not really with my thoughts about this yet so mine is a 'reactionary' thing as well atm but do the migrants seeking refuge really care what is said, does it really effect them whether someone has empathy or whether someone has no tolerance because all that matters to them and will make a difference in their lives are actions and positive actions, whether they be temporary or long term ones...so surely this all just detracts from that..a positive type social experiment would be to see people giving them food/blankets or shelter or whatever...to see them 'humanized' again and to see the focus kept there and not on what people say...

..anyways, I'm going to go away and think about this...

[Crimson Dynamo]

people dont like people taking the piss and i think whilst the bleeding hearts go "oh these poor people" most others think "hang on they are just a bunch of chancers"

[Samuel.]

"Bleeding heart" is as meaningless of an expression as "sympathiser"

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Samuel.

"Bleeding heart" is as meaningless of an expression as "sympathiser"

No it isn't, it has a totally different connotation.

[Kizzy]

Mind you if ( skeksis impersonator) British foreign secretary Phillip Hammond refers to them as 'marauding' it's not hard to see why those commenters feel justified in venting.