[ttw]

Originally posted by ice_maiden02
I need a thread like this, thanks.

'That's why people in India are so thin, they get ill' (from the badly cooked food)...

This was not what was said also..

They where talking about the way Shilpa cooked the chicken , they where also talking about the meal Shilpa cooked and they felt ill from.

Jo then said that they get ill and are thin in India because they eat Shilpa's food.

Is was a nasty comment but also not racist.

She was simply making a direct insult towards Shilpa's cooking and was not generalising Shilpa's cooking to all Indian food.

[ttw]

Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
When Shilpa came out with bleach on her face Danielle said "she wants to be white"

Yes , but look at the context in which she made this comment.

Shilpa had bleach on her face. We all know bleach is used to lighten hair and some people do use it to make their skin lighter.

By making the comment " she wants to be white " she was implying this as Shilpa was rubbing bleach on her face.

Ofcourse again it was a nasty thing to say, but not racist.

Pretty ignorant though.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw

Yes , but look at the context in which she made this comment.

Shilpa had bleach on her face. We all know bleach is used to lighten hair and some people do use it to make their skin lighter.

By making the comment " she wants to be white " she was implying this as Shilpa was rubbing bleach on her face.

Ofcourse again it was a nasty thing to say, but not racist.

Pretty ignorant though.

Seriously, just take the quotes for what they are and dont try defending them.

All youre proving is that you dont fully understand the English language, or the concepts therein. (no offence)

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

Seriously, just take the quotes for what they are and dont try defending them.

All youre proving is that you dont fully understand the English language, or the concepts therein. (no offence)

Don't worry no offense taken.

I am just defending them because I have defended them against racism and wouldn't have done so for no reason.

Is that quote from Danielle racist because she said 'she wants to be white' because she believes Shilpa wants to have white skin and white features and live in a white country?

I would agree so if it was a passing comment in a random conversation. But it was said only in relation to the bleach being put on her skin - ofcourse I could be wrong and that is what Danielle is thinking and believes, but I do not know this, neither does anybody else kno this. All everyone is doing is making their own judgements on what they have seen.

[Diablo]

It seems to me like everything they say is being scrutinised for allegedly racist comments.. Ignorance, stupidity and nastiness are not the same as racism... I am a Shilpa fan and I do not like they way she has been treated but I think the vast majority of this race row stuff is inaccurate..

[The_Hitman]

Well in your stubborn quest to prove all this with semantics, you are basically theorising that racism doesnt even exist.

Just accept it, then you can start to form some credible opinions on what is actually happening.

[Diablo]

so what your saying is that if I dont agree with you then i'm wrong..

I dont know how you got racism doesnt exist from my post.. and I am not on any "quest" just giving my opinion on the forum just like you and everyone else here..

[Mike]

I actually think you have it spot on and it's got beyond a joke now, quite alot of people are using the word 'racism' to every word that Danielle or Jade say, not sticking up for them because they have both been bang out of order on a number of occasions but at the same time some people need to chill a bit and stop bringing up racism in every topic.

[Diablo]

Originally posted by Mike
I actually think you have it spot on and it's got beyond a joke now, quite alot of people are using the word 'racism' to every word that Danielle or Jade say, not sticking up for them because they have both been bang out of order on a number of occasions but at the same time some people need to chill a bit and stop bringing up racism in every topic.

phew.. thank god somene agrees with me.. lol

we will end up needing a thread solely for CBB talk that doesn't revolve around this topic..

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Diablo
so what your saying is that if I dont agree with you then i'm wrong..

I dont know how you got racism doesnt exist from my post.. and I am not on any "quest" just giving my opinion on the forum just like you and everyone else here..

I wasnt talking to you.

[Diablo]

LOL.. ok then..

[charming]

Originally posted by ttw

Yes , but look at the context in which she made this comment.

Shilpa had bleach on her face. We all know bleach is used to lighten hair and some people do use it to make their skin lighter.

By making the comment " she wants to be white " she was implying this as Shilpa was rubbing bleach on her face.

Ofcourse again it was a nasty thing to say, but not racist.

Pretty ignorant though.

Why would thicko say she wants to be white, when Shilpa clearly told them she needs to lighten ther facial hair to blend in with her skin tone, as she has hair removal surgery and the growth is darker?

And by saying "she wants to be white" is saying "she wants to be white" . Theres nothing more to it, read it as it is and not anything else. Its very easy to read and very easy to understand

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by Mike
I actually think you have it spot on and it's got beyond a joke now, quite alot of people are using the word 'racism' to every word that Danielle or Jade say, not sticking up for them because they have both been bang out of order on a number of occasions but at the same time some people need to chill a bit and stop bringing up racism in every topic.

The way I see it Mike, the problem is, just because the majority of the hate and spite directed at Shilpa is probably due to her being very beautiful, dignified and intelligent, people are trying to use this to mask the slight tone of definite racism involved as well.

Dont get me wrong, this is clearly more about jealousy and spite, than racism, but there is a small measure of racism involved.

It should NOT be ignored.

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman
Well in your stubborn quest to prove all this with semantics, you are basically theorising that racism doesnt even exist.

Just accept it, then you can start to form some credible opinions on what is actually happening.

Show me the flaws in my statements then, don't just tell me I'm wrong .

I totally believe there is racism in the world, it is very present and moreso then alot of people know. I am not blind to that at all being mixed race myself.

But in this case and from what I have seen and heard I don't believe this is racism.

Ignorance yes , racism no ... and some people may argue there is no difference between the two but there is

[ttw]

Originally posted by charming

Why would thicko say she wants to be white, when Shilpa clearly told them she needs to lighten ther facial hair to blend in with her skin tone, as she has hair removal surgery and the growth is darker?

And by saying "she wants to be white" is saying "she wants to be white" . Theres nothing more to it, read it as it is and not anything else. Its very easy to read and very easy to understand

I agree with you that Danielle is a thicko , but why does it mean she is racist?

[ttw]

Originally posted by The_Hitman

No Mike, the problem is, just because the majority of the hate and spite directed at Shilpa is probably due to her being very beautiful, dignified and intelligent, people are trying to use this to mask the slight tone of definite racism involved as well.

Dont get me wrong, this is clearly more about jealousy and spite, than racism, but there is a small measure of racism involved.

It should NOT be ignored.

I agree that the hatred is mainly due to jealousy ect.

But I believe if they didn't 'hate' her and these similar comments were made, it would be recognised as just ignorance and stupidity. But as it is in hand with the 'hate' people intepret it as racism.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by ttw
But I believe if they didn't 'hate' her and these similar comments were made, it would be recognised as just ignorance and stupidity. But as it is in hand with the 'hate' people intepret it as racism.

Well all we can act on is what we have seen and heard, and like this thread gives examples, we have seen or heard one or two examples of racism.

[mansi]

Originally posted by kizwiz

Totally agree with you there. How many threads do we have on this?

Yes its a topic of discusion BUT a thread like this only makes the situation worse in my opinion

These threads wouldn't have been made if it weren't for those bitches and their taunts towards shilpa. They're the root cause of all the problem and chaos that's going on right now