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Nedusa · 04-09-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My opinion of him has changed...

He used to be a smarmy xenophobic tit. Now he's an obsolete xenophobic tit.

He probably got a few things right but... if you spew enough bile, there's bound to be an edible piece of carrot in there somewhere. It's still soaked in bile and would taste disgusting, though.

My opinion of him has changed as well, I used to think he was a good politician but a bit quirky and looking for a Political niche in his UKIP party.

But now I see him as a superb Politician a peoples politician who says it like he sees it. His UKIP party is desperately needed to try and counter the balance aginst the ever rising tide of immigration and religious radicalisation that is threatening to destroy this country.

Despite the outrageous media smear campaign against him during the Election and the slight gains made he has kept a dignified demeanour and continues to lead his party to hopefully bigger things in the months and years to come.

kirklancaster · 04-09-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa

My opinion of him has changed as well, I used to think he was a good politician but a bit quirky and looking for a Political niche in his UKIP party.

But now I see him as a superb Politician a peoples politician who says it like he sees it. His UKIP party is desperately needed to try and counter the balance aginst the ever rising tide of immigration and religious radicalisation that is threatening to destroy this country.

Despite the outrageous media smear campaign against him during the Election and the slight gains made he has kept a dignified demeanour and continues to lead his party to hopefully bigger things in the months and years to come.

joeysteele · 04-09-2015, 12:19 PM

My view of him hasn't changed.

I in no way dislike him,there are many things he says I agree with and there were things in UKIPs manifesto I agreed with too.
I also acknowledge he speask in a language politically that voters can easily and quickly connect with.

However,I agree in no way with him still as to being out of the EU,plus his hardline attitude,always blaming immigration and Europe for near all the UKs ills,is the real turn off for me as to him.

the truth · 04-09-2015, 01:44 PM

farage has don euk and Europe and enormous service
hes spent years highlighting and exposing the corruption at the heart of Europe and the endless hypocrisy and waste...plus hes pointed out the closed cartel of the eu has made the Africans and middle east even poorer as its raped their shores and prevented them from trading. the eu also failed hopelessly to stop the Iraq invasion, though we were to blame for that disaster.

JoshBB · 04-09-2015, 02:51 PM

I think he's a great public speaker, he offers a different view.. and it ends there really. I think in many ways he is better than David Cameron but in other ways he is not.

That's it. His views on immigration are awful and if he is opposed to helping these refugees (which I assume is what you suggested by this thread) then he is immoral and revolting.

kirklancaster · 04-09-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

I think he's a great public speaker, he offers a different view.. and it ends there really. I think in many ways he is better than David Cameron but in other ways he is not.

That's it. His views on immigration are awful and if he is opposed to helping these refugees (which I assume is what you suggested by this thread) then he is immoral and revolting.

Farage's vision is so astonishing;

If we were not in the EU and compelled to have absorbed the millions of 'economic' migrants that we have, then NOW, we would be in a far superior position - fiscally, service-wise and space-wise - to absorb, help and take care, of the genuine people who are fleeing terror, persecution and death.

Farage is NOT and NEVER has been against immigration, merely a sensible and vital more efficient overhaul of the eventually fatal 'Open Border' policy imposed upon us by the corrupt and inefficient EU.

empire · 04-09-2015, 04:23 PM

farage speaks the truth, but the arrogant british public would rather vote for parties that will lie and break there words, and have a leader that is a puppet to the eu, the way the media, attacked him and his party, was very anti-democratic, and some labour and tory mps, wanted him banned from live debates, because they don't want the truth to be told, on live TV, the left-wing attack him because he is patriotic, and wants to put britain first, and to put the needs of the british public first,

letmein · 04-09-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YET ANOTHER PHOTO SHOWING ALL THE FLEEING WOMEN AND CHILDREN.

Self-blind idiots can scream XENOPHOBIC and RACIST at astute, truthful politicians such as Farage all they want, but disliking the messenger does not mean the message is not fact.

Just for once, I personally would like ALL you appeasers to post just WHAT solution to this problem you have.

What does gender have to do with it?

kirklancaster · 04-09-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by letmein

What does gender have to do with it?

Nothing - to those who are stupid. Nothing at all.

letmein · 04-09-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes Farage warned us
and 4Million voted for his party

He has one MP

room to grow again

You voted for his party?

Northern Monkey · 05-09-2015, 12:31 AM

If we were'nt in the EU spending millions on housing Europeans from stable countries due to mass uncontrolled immigration we would be in more of a position to take in genuine refugees who need our help.Nige was right.We opened the flood gates too early and to the wrong people.A country needs to be able to control it's borders and be in a position to take in those who
A)really need our help
and
B)fit the criteria for skills we need.
and then finally the people who just want to come in and earn more money to send back to their families.
The ones who come to claim benefits or blow us up or traffic prostitutes or enter illegally should be stopped and turned away.
Unfortunately now it's very hard to distinguish who is who.

Northern Monkey · 05-09-2015, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Farage's vision is so astonishing;

If we were not in the EU and compelled to have absorbed the millions of 'economic' migrants that we have, then NOW, we would be in a far superior position - fiscally, service-wise and space-wise - to absorb, help and take care, of the genuine people who are fleeing terror, persecution and death.

Farage is NOT and NEVER has been against immigration, merely a sensible and vital more efficient overhaul of the eventually fatal 'Open Border' policy imposed upon us by the corrupt and inefficient EU.

Oh you beat me too it.

So many people like to paint UKIP as the next BNP because they have'nt listened to what Farage has actually said.They just hear 'immigration' and immediately think 'oh he said immigration,He must be racist'.
Everyone just wanted to bury their heads in the sand on this issue before Farage finally woke them up.Unfortunately it was too late and here we are.....

billy123 · 05-09-2015, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

If we were'nt in the EU spending millions on housing Europeans from stable countries due to mass uncontrolled immigration we would be in more of a position to take in genuine refugees who need our help.Nige was right.We opened the flood gates too early and to the wrong people.A country needs to be able to control it's borders and be in a position to take in those who
A)really need our help
and
B)fit the criteria for skills we need.
and then finally the people who just want to come in and earn more money to send back to their families.
The ones who come to claim benefits or blow us up or traffic prostitutes or enter illegally should be stopped and turned away.
Unfortunately now it's very hard to distinguish who is who.

You seem to be confused between free movement and immigration i didnt have you down as one of those types that gulp down the idiotic facebook posts but it seems i was wrong.
Farrage feeds on stupid people that dont bother to scratch below the surface. What is happening now has nothing to do with the EU and none of farrages rhetoric would have done anything to prevent it.

Are you suggesting if we werent in the EU we could have just washed our hands of the suffering that we had a hand in causing? Im confused as to what you think farrage could have done?

Ammi · 05-09-2015, 06:28 AM

...I feel like..the alien races must be looking down and thinking, that's one pretty screwed up planet/when did preservation of life get to be legal or illegal.../invade them..?...no, that's what we've learned, we won't go there...