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i hate both

[The_Hitman]

So the considerable majority of this vote dont actually hate Jade at all, but that is what she'll base her come-back on. WE HATE HER!!!!

THE PRESS SAY SO!!!!

Thats called misrepresentation.

[tazblaney]

Good Lord, has nobody ever watched BB before this? There has ALWAYS been arguments, bitching, back-biting etc. The only difference this year is that someone played the racist card.

In last night's BB alone there was sexism, homosexual stereotyping, ageism and masoganism, but apparently that's okay...and, d'ya know what, it is okay because it's only kinnda mild stuff that happens all the time in REAL LIFE. If we're all going to be so hypocritical and pretend that we've all never done anything bad or said anything bad to anyone in our lives then as far as I'm concerned that's far worse than anything Jade did.

And before anyone says "yeah, but she WAS a bully" please ask yourself what's worse: Shipla getting shouted at a bit on a "goldfish bowl" reality TV show or someone's life being ruined, police outside their home for protection, windows being smashed and their kids being scared? Who are the real bullies now?

Will Jermaine be hounded when he leaves the house or calling Jackie "WHITE TRASH"...somehow I doubt it, and neither he should. People need to lighten up and stop letting the press whip them into a frenzy.

Remember, Jade is famous for being stupid and clueless. What, do you think... she would have changed?

She did NOTHING racist. You are all sheep, followers. Think for yourselves and THINK about what she said. To call someone a pupadom...BIG DEAL. I'm Scottish and EVERY time I'm in England someone calls me a haggis or says "Och aye the noo" or whatever. Now, technically that's racist but the truth is IT IS NO BIG DEAL, it doesn't matter.

It was probably a Ch 4 exec who started all this to get the ratings up because before this the series was awful - terrible contestants.

Get a life, you lot!... and stop following the herd.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by tazblaney
In last night's BB alone there was sexism, homosexual stereotyping, ageism and masoganism, but apparently that's okay...and, d'ya know what, it is okay because it's only kinnda mild stuff that happens all the time in REAL LIFE. If we're all going to be so hypocritical and pretend that we've all never done anything bad or said anything bad to anyone in our lives then as far as I'm concerned that's far worse than anything Jade did.

Well, seeing as you have made the same post elsewhere, I'm going to make practically the same answers!

I can't comment on last year's BB because I didn't watch it. But you know what? Just because sexism, homophobia, ageism and racism goes on in real life, does NOT make it okay.

And yes of course, nobody's perfect. We've all done 'wrong' things, but according to your argument, nobody can ever say that anybody's behaviour is wrong ever, because all of us do wrong things sometimes.

And before anyone says "yeah, but she WAS a bully" please ask yourself what's worse: Shipla getting shouted at a bit on a "goldfish bowl" reality TV show or someone's life being ruined, police outside their home for protection, windows being smashed and their kids being scared? Who are the real bullies now?

I do wish people would check their facts. First of all, Jade's life is not ruined. People are naive if they think that she won't bounce back from this. She is already giving an interview in this week's OK magazine, and seems to be on every tv show going.

Secondly - the police have said that they are NOT having to protect Jade's home, and her windows have NOT been smashed. Her children should not be made to feel scared - I totally agree on that point. I can only hope that they didn't see her long rant (in which she said that she wanted to head-butt Shilpa), as that would have terrified me if I was one of her children.

Will Jermaine be hounded when he leaves the house or calling Jackie "WHITE TRASH"...somehow I doubt it, and neither he should.

Time and time again, people go on about this comment. There is a thread on here which gives the complete transcript of the conversation in which Jermaine said this. You will see that he was not being racist at all, and the remark has been taken completely out of context.

Remember, Jade is famous for being stupid and clueless. What, do you think... she would have changed?

No. That is the very reason that I don't think she deserves celebrity status at all. Whatever happened to people becoming celebrities because they had a talent?

She did NOTHING racist. You are all sheep, followers.

And you are very rude. If you read a lot of the posts on here, you will see that people have different opinions about this whole matter. Personally I don't think Jade was racist. I do think she is a bully - and if you think that bullying is acceptable, then that's your problem.

To call someone a pupadom...BIG DEAL. I'm Scottish and EVERY time I'm in England someone calls me a haggis or says "Och aye the noo" or whatever. Now, technically that's racist but the truth is IT IS NO BIG DEAL, it doesn't matter.

No, maybe not to you. It might matter to someone else though.

[bananarama]

To hate someone you do not know is worse than racism and bullying.........Tea pot calling kettle.........

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by tazblaney
Good Lord, has nobody ever watched BB before this? There has ALWAYS been arguments, bitching, back-biting etc. The only difference this year is that someone played the racist card.

In last night's BB alone there was sexism, homosexual stereotyping, ageism and masoganism, but apparently that's okay...and, d'ya know what, it is okay because it's only kinnda mild stuff that happens all the time in REAL LIFE. If we're all going to be so hypocritical and pretend that we've all never done anything bad or said anything bad to anyone in our lives then as far as I'm concerned that's far worse than anything Jade did.

And before anyone says "yeah, but she WAS a bully" please ask yourself what's worse: Shipla getting shouted at a bit on a "goldfish bowl" reality TV show or someone's life being ruined, police outside their home for protection, windows being smashed and their kids being scared? Who are the real bullies now?

Will Jermaine be hounded when he leaves the house or calling Jackie "WHITE TRASH"...somehow I doubt it, and neither he should. People need to lighten up and stop letting the press whip them into a frenzy.

Remember, Jade is famous for being stupid and clueless. What, do you think... she would have changed?

She did NOTHING racist. You are all sheep, followers. Think for yourselves and THINK about what she said. To call someone a pupadom...BIG DEAL. I'm Scottish and EVERY time I'm in England someone calls me a haggis or says "Och aye the noo" or whatever. Now, technically that's racist but the truth is IT IS NO BIG DEAL, it doesn't matter.

It was probably a Ch 4 exec who started all this to get the ratings up because before this the series was awful - terrible contestants.

Get a life, you lot!... and stop following the herd.

Ruth has already cut this post to ribbons. I'll only add that it's sad that Taz has posted this again with the same inaccuracies he clearly hasn't read any of the replies in the other thread.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GRiT

Ruth has already cut this post to ribbons. I'll only add that it's sad that Taz has posted this again with the same inaccuracies he clearly hasn't read any of the replies in the other thread.

Just because one reads replies does not mean one has to agree with them. No doubt the original poster feels this......

Thank goodness for a common sense humanity contributer like the original poster.....To many people are filled with hate and revenge for Jade Goody behavour .....Such people who hate strangers are no better than her.......

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama

Just because one reads replies does not mean one has to agree with them. No doubt the original poster feels this......

Thank goodness for a common sense humanity contributer like the original poster.....To many people are filled with hate and revenge for Jade Goody behavour .....Such people who hate strangers are no better than her.......

What about the inaccuracies? There's nothing to agree or disagree there. If a post is factually inacurate how can it be taken seriously?

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GRiT

What about the inaccuracies? There's nothing to agree or disagree there. If a post is factually inacurate how can it be taken seriously?

What is accurate or not is a matter of opinion not fact.......

[Smeggypants]

Jade is an industry. She is a product. We never witness the real Jade. we just witness the product. Jade the product went too far in CBB and it backfired on Jade the product. Jade the product has lots of fuel to get interviews everywhere and put out this fake bubbering apologetic act in order to prevetnh Jade the product going under.

Just becuase Jade the product is currently on every show you can think of, it's doesn't mean Jade the product is safe. The current nonsense won't last for ever oand once stuff dies down we'll know if the public are still stoooopid enough to continue to buy Jade the Product.

I've never bought Jade the Product as it's fake talentless sh1t so it doesn't affect my wallet

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama

What is accurate or not is a matter of opinion not fact.......

The police themselves say they are not protecting Jade. Is that just in their opinion or can we more or less believe that one.

The trancript of the 'White trash' conversation is here

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=54736

Read it and tell me which bit is racist?

[bananarama]

Originally posted by GRiT

The police themselves say they are not protecting Jade. Is that just in their opinion or can we more or less believe that one.

The trancript of the 'White trash' conversation is here

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?tid=54736

Read it and tell me which bit is racist?

Quote from the article you gave a link to..


have you seen that show Jerry springer have you heard about the show were they bring people on were they tell there buisness and they go crazy, they get people like that because they have no self respect.


Unquote..... People like that implies he thinks of her as stated.

As I said it is down to opinion and not presumed facts........As far as I am concerned Jermains conversation was full on racist.........Worse than anything Jade said from a racial perspective

The comment about Police protection.They have a duty to protect anyone under threat.......If Jade is under threat then if the police are doing their job properly they will attempt to protect her. If they have stated otherwise they are not completing their obligation and should be condemned without hesitation.....

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama

Quote from the article you gave a link to..


have you seen that show Jerry springer have you heard about the show were they bring people on were they tell there buisness and they go crazy, they get people like that because they have no self respect.


Unquote..... People like that implies he thinks of her as stated.

As I said it is down to opinion and not presumed facts........As far as I am concerned Jermains conversation was full on racist.........Worse than anything Jade said from a racial perspective

The comment about Police protection.They have a duty to protect anyone under threat.......If Jade is under threat then if the police are doing their job properly they will attempt to protect her. If they have stated otherwise they are not completing their obligation and should be condemned without hesitation.....

Did he call her 'White trash'? Without doubt - No. He could have meant eccentric.

'police outside their home for protection' is the quote. According to the police this is not true.

[bananarama]

'police outside their home for protection' is the quote. According to the police this is not true


Splitting hairs comes to mind.............

[xstarsx]

i play football myself and i have diffrent race in my team and i am glad to have them they are the same as me and they are my freinds but i hate jade aswell n jo n dani were not racist i say to people go home sometimes when i argue but i dnt mean in racist way but this hole raciest thing has gone on for a bit now its shilpa who needs to say if there racist or not so wait for her to say because we carnt decide because we wernt there we carnt say its racist then jade is racist coz we sed let shilpa get on with her life thats what she may want to do and just ignore jades horrible coment.
Thank you for reading this (if u do) lol

[bananarama]

Originally posted by xstarsx
i play football myself and i have diffrent race in my team and i am glad to have them they are the same as me and they are my freinds but i hate jade aswell n jo n dani were not racist i say to people go home sometimes when i argue but i dont mean in racist way but this hole raciest thing has gone on for a bit now its shilpa who needs to say if there racist or not so wait for her to say because we carnt decide because we wernt there we carnt say its racist then jade is racist coz we sed let shilpa get on with her life thats what she may want to do and just ignore jades horrible coment.
Thank you for reading this (if u do) lol

Well done. Good. More common humanity sense prevailing.....

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by bananarama
'police outside their home for protection' is the quote. According to the police this is not true


Splitting hairs comes to mind.............

Possibly. Possibly not.

I found your interpretation of the 'White trash' transcript quite fanciful in its conclusions. The comment has been brought up as some kind of defense and I find it despicable for people to try and pin a racist badge on Jermaine when the whole conversation can be taken a number of ways.

The police protection thing is something that Jade herself has bought into the debate. The police say her claims are not true. Why is she lying?

The original post was inaccurate and the poster could not be bothered to change it. He may have said some things that people wanted to hear and I too agreed with bits of it but get your facts right before you rant.

[James]

Originally posted by bananarama

Quote from the article you gave a link to..


have you seen that show Jerry springer have you heard about the show were they bring people on were they tell there buisness and they go crazy, they get people like that because they have no self respect.


Unquote..... People like that implies he thinks of her as stated.

As I said it is down to opinion and not presumed facts........As far as I am concerned Jermains conversation was full on racist.........Worse than anything Jade said from a racial perspective

It is really getting on my nerves this...

He was quoting Leo Sayer, who said the Goodys were 'white trash'. Jermaine said that he wouldn't use those words. He even whispered the actual words instead of saying them.

Just because he said that the Goodys are the type of people who would go on Jerry Springer doesn't mean that he made a slur on them because of their colour of skin.

That is just like someone here saying that the Goodys are the type of people who go on Trisha or Jeremy Kyle.

To say that he is racist for quoting those words would be like saying the people who quoted Jack, when some people thought he said the 'p word', are racist. Totally ridiculous.

It's a disgraceful slander against the man's [Jermaine] character.

Strange how the people will cast aside all the blatent racist comments like 'f off home', 'Shilpa *******awallah', the constant comparison of her to animals, 'The Indian', 'she wants to be white' etc say that these are 'open to interpretation' or some such nonsense, and pounce on the one thing they can possibly twist into anti-white racism.

Utterly disgraceful some of the things I've read on this forum the last few weeks...

[tazblaney]

I am glad I have propigated such vivid discussion. For the record, I hate racists, homophobes and bullies.

My point was simply that ITS A TV SHOW. Nobody's died, nobody's been hurt or injured and, at the end of the day, its not important. It's just that some massive hippocrocacy has been going on.

Please everyone...Love your fellow human being. Relax. Look at the sky and ask yourself...does it really matter?

People that are really victims of horrible racism or bullying are to be protected, but please, don't let this pantomime convince you that this is really bad stuff.

To all you good people (especially you, Ruth darling...oh no, I can't say that, it's sexist..tee-hee) please, fight the GOOD fight. Don't waste sweat on nonsense. There are plenty of really bad people out there who would happily ruin your life and mine. Let's keep it real, people.

Bye the way, Ruth. You're probably right. Some parts of my rant were a bit rude. My appologies. No need for that. Thanks for your guidance.

Best will to everyone. Happy days x

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by tazblaney
I am glad I have propigated such vivid discussion. For the record, I hate racists, homophobes and bullies.

My point was simply that ITS A TV SHOW. Nobody's died, nobody's been hurt or injured and, at the end of the day, its not important. It's just that some massive hippocrocacy has been going on.

Please everyone...Love your fellow human being. Relax. Look at the sky and ask yourself...does it really matter?

People that are really victims of horrible racism or bullying are to be protected, but please, don't let this pantomime convince you that this is really bad stuff.

To all you good people (especially you, Ruth darling...oh no, I can't say that, it's sexist..tee-hee) please, fight the GOOD fight. Don't waste sweat on nonsense. There are plenty of really bad people out there who would happily ruin your life and mine. Let's keep it real, people.

Bye the way, Ruth. You're probably right. Some parts of my rant were a bit rude. My appologies. No need for that. Thanks for your guidance.

Best will to everyone. Happy days x

Talk to the wall. Dont preach to me about fighting the good fight when youre telling everybody to simmer down about the issues which have been raised. What contradiction are you living in? Where in your mind do you rationalise 'fighting a good fight' but only when you think it is worth your time?

Every single time there is a fight to be won, you should fight the good fight, and just because there is alot of hype about all this and there are alot of people backing 'the good fight' it doesnt mean you can come and put your hands up and tell everyone that this particular one isnt worth your time, or worth OUR time for that matter.

No matter how small the issue, if it is wrong, the good must stand up and be counted.

[tazblaney]

Wow!...you're a bit angry, aren't you? I suggest you spout venom eleswhere. By saying"Fight thegood fight" I mean keep your powder dry for the real bad guys.

When you expend so much energy at me you become drained. Keep your energy, my friend, for the really bad folks.

Ouch!

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by tazblaney
Wow!...you're a bit angry, aren't you? I suggest you spout venom eleswhere. By saying"Fight thegood fight" I mean keep your powder dry for the real bad guys.

When you expend so much energy at me you become drained. Keep your energy, my friend, for the really bad folks.

Ouch!

There was no venom. It was simple and concise.

[errbott]

what a poll!!!!!

SHILPA to win!!!!