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Old 18-01-2016, 08:49 PM #1
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Producers want to make as much money out of a movie project as they can for themselves and their backers. Whoever they choose is their choice. I have no problem with whoever they choose as they are taking a gamble with lots of money to try and make a profit. It has nothing to do with colour and everything to do with making money on their movie project.
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Producers want to make as much money out of a movie project as they can for themselves and their backers. Whoever they choose is their choice. I have no problem with whoever they choose as they are taking a gamble with lots of money to try and make a profit. It has nothing to do with colour and everything to do with making money on their movie project.
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Theres a few movie production companies out there that hire 98% african american actors with only token none african american actors involved yet no one has a problem with that?
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I heard Stephen Fry talking about this subject on the radio a while ago. He said the reason was that the rest of the world is primarily interested in buying period dramas (like Downton Abbey) from the UK, and isn't much interested in modern day urban UK drama.
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I heard Stephen Fry talking about this subject on the radio a while ago. He said the reason was that the rest of the world is primarily interested in buying period dramas (like Downton Abbey) from the UK, and isn't much interested in modern day urban UK drama.

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I heard Stephen Fry talking about this subject on the radio a while ago. He said the reason was that the rest of the world is primarily interested in buying period dramas (like Downton Abbey) from the UK, and isn't much interested in modern day urban UK drama.
I think this is fairly accurate. Most of the UK material that makes it even close to American /Canadian main stream are period dramas...
The rest of your content I have to find on my own via Internet streaming. Even Canadian Netflix, that has a high amount oh British content, is mostly period dramas.
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The whole of the UK will be like downton abbey soon,they can buy that :/
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..there are many British actors/actresses who have to 'do one' to the USA because in terms of opportunities in roles, money etc...it can offer so much more, the UK film/TV industry is just so limited in general with finances etc...for black actors/actresses I think, it's just another 'minority' or a restriction that they have to deal with...they're British/fewer British roles in the USA TV/film industry, so can they convincingly be Americans, do those roles..?..they're female...fewer great roles for females in general..?...they're black so 'black roles' are needed ..?...atm, there are American actors speaking up that their aren't enough opportunities for black actors/actresses and even talk about boycotting the Oscars...it's good that this is being spoken up about I think...because why is that..?...they can only give parts to characters that have been written, so why aren't they being written so much for black characters..?..maybe not equal opportunities, a minority in black screen writers/producers/directors etc as well..?...why is that, through schools/colleges/unis etc...is there not the same equal opportunities there either..?..so it goes down, I guess and looking at why and that should be looked at....

...the BBC has always been known as producing great period dramas, I think that James commented on that..?..well, black characters didn't figure so much in 'period' did they, so TV companies should be looking at that and looking at different scripts....we have huge predominantly black communities in the UK with very few white population in them...have we ever had a soap in this country that has been mainly 'black' casted..?...like we do with things like EastEnders etc....although there are black families integrated, is it still not mainly white communities that are focused on..?...why not a black community..?...maybe there is that though, I don't really watch soaps....


..anyways, I don't see why roles can't be adapted as well, when it would make no difference to the character portrayed...there was quite a lot of objection to Idris playing James Bond if I recall...on social sites I mean, not on here....what difference to the character if the role was a black actor..?...none at all...
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Take another BBC stalwart - Dr Who - Plenty races in there including Aliens - They have rights too
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Take another BBC stalwart - Dr Who - Plenty races in there including Aliens - They have rights too
Speaking of Dr Who though... surely there needs to be a black (or any other non-caucasian) doctor at some point? When he changes he totally rewrites his genetic code... he's done it 13(?) times and he's always white? I reckon The Doctor is a wee bit racist tbh
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Speaking of Dr Who though... surely there needs to be a black (or any other non-caucasian) doctor at some point? When he changes he totally rewrites his genetic code... he's done it 13(?) times and he's always white? I reckon The Doctor is a wee bit racist tbh
It should be a black or asian doctor on every 10th regeneration to keep up with the UK racial mix

Also a gay one every 20th regen

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It should be a black or asian doctor on every 10th regeneration to keep up with the UK racial mix

Also a gay one every 20th regen

And a closeted one every 5th
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It should be a black or asian doctor on every 10th regeneration to keep up with the UK racial mix

Also a gay one every 20th regen

Actually, there was a fairly strong implication that the David Tennant doctor was bisexual (...omnisexual?) in my opinion.
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Actually, there was a fairly strong implication that the David Tennant doctor was bisexual (...omnisexual?) in my opinion.
i bet they all have shagged a few aliens

I mean if a 3 breasted stunna from Algeron III lays it on a plate, few could refuse
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Well if we're doing that then we need a midget doctor every one millionth or so regens.
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I am amazed at womankind. They spend a fortune making their 2 breasts bigger when surely it would be more efficient to grow another middle boob thus giving men more?

typical women not thinking right

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I am amazed at womankind. They spend a fortune making their 2 breasts bigger when surely it would be more efficient to grow another middle boob thus giving men more?

typical women not thinking right

Like this genius?



She didn't grow it, to be fair, but that is a 100% genuine surgically implanted third boob. It makes her chest look like a cartoon foot.
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He's not the first to say it.

Selma star David Oyelowo has claimed there is no desire within the UK film industry to tell stories about black heroes.

Interviewed by the Big Issue, the Hollywood-based Briton said he would not have enjoyed the same opportunities had he remained working in the UK. Oyelowo, who plays Martin Luther King Jr in Ava DuVernay’s acclaimed civil rights biopic, added that the country’s arts scene was hamstrung by issues of class and race.

“I’d never get to play a character akin to Dr King living and working [in the UK],” said Oyelowo, the former star of BBC spy drama Spooks who left Britain in 2007. “If I looked like Benedict [Cumberbatch] or Eddie Redmayne, I could do the films they have done that are being celebrated now. But myself, Idris Elba and Chiwetel Ejiofor had to gain our success elsewhere because there is not a desire to tell stories with black protagonists in a heroic context within British film.”

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I was there yesterday! He smelt so good... I don't think most of the females there heard a thing he said.
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He has a point.

People bring up Luther like one show alone is enough to tip the balance. It's not enough. I could spend all day naming UK shows and films with a white lead actor but I'd struggle to think of many shows or films featuring black actors at the forefront aside from stereotypical trash like Top Boy and Kidulthood.

The entertainment industry heavily favours white actors and it always has, to deny that is to deny reality.
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Again... the only way you're going to get good roles for black actors is to have black screenwriters.
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