[kirklancaster]

The great Muhammad Ali spent months before the classic 1974 'Rumble In The Jungle' Heavyweight Title bout with the 'undefeated and unbeatable' Champion George Foreman - at the time THE most feared man on the planet - talking about how he would 'dance' all night and employ his 'float like a butterfly, sting like a bee' 'in, hit, and out' tactics, only to do the EXACT opposite and lay stationary on the ropes for huge parts of the fight, allowing the huge and much younger Foreman to flay away at Ai's arms and gloves until he tired himself out and Ali KO'd him to win back the title.

Ali's unexpected tactics that night in Zaire has passed into boxing folklore as 'The Rope-A-Dope', and Tiffany is 'Rope-A-Doping' all HER rivals for the 'Title' in that house.

Forget everything you thought you knew about her from her previous shows, and from the media columns - SHE IS THE ONCE AND FUTURE CHAMP, and her 'surprise' tactics and strategy are sheer brilliance.

She is OWNING the HM's AND BB by playing the most brilliant game.

YES - she is being fake in parts.
YES - she is being fawning in parts.
Yes - she is acting her black ass off.

But how briliantly successful have her tactics been?

She targeted the most dominant of the pack when they were all ranged against her; 'Queen' Gemma (not forgetting her pet pug Danniella 'No-Personality') and 'worked' her-- confusing her with niceness, OTT friendliness, and - yes - a huge dollop of fawning and obsequiousness, which all 'pulled the "You're Not Welcome" rug' from under the Fat One's 'stone-less shoe clad feet.

Once Tiff rendered Gemma (and her pug) impotent, the rest of the pack disintegrated.

KNOWING that fake drama and OTT hystrionics is what the CBB viewers want, Tiff invested in her share of false tears, fake hysterics and acted rants.

KNOWING that sex, illicit trysts, and scandalous conduct are what the CBB viewers want, Tiff 'came on' to married man Darren, then played the role of 'mega bitch' by 'tramping' it with Jeremy and Scotty 'T' - thereby 'giving' the viewers their scandal and drama, because both were already 'involved' with Stephanie and Megan respectively.

And YET - Tiffany has 'ticked ALL of the viewing publics boxes' WITHOUT causing any real offense by resorting to the nastiness of Piggy Gemma, the resentfulness of Puggy Danniella, or the stirring of John.

Tiffany is THE real queen of CBB which is why I supported her from the start, and why I backed her each way at 11/1 odds.

Love her or hate her - salute a REAL CBB Queen.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She was loved by the usuals BEFORE she even entered the house, and even though I know damn well they are now wondering why they supported her and must feel cheated ,they will never admit it ,they claimed she would wipe the floor with everyone ,she was the Big I Am ,and what has she done apart from run around after Gemma and trying to bed anyone with a pulse for camera time, hardly rivetting

She was loved by people because this is CELEBRITY Big Brother, they go into the show with a fan base...

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

I donīt really hate/dislike her (apart from her annoying laugh and voice and her mannerisms/personality), i just donīt understand the overbearing love fest over her, when she hasnīt really done much to deserve it. She is just default favorite to so many regardless of what she does. Even if she spent all her time sleeping, being in the bathroom, eating, not talking or just sat in a chair, she would get the exact same amount of love.

Itīs just odd.

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

Thatīs just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Thatīs just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

Its this what I hate the most, its not support its just irrational fanboyism

like 1D fans

Its no surprise the age profile either

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its this what I hate the most, its not support its just irrational fanboyism

like 1D fans

Its no surprise the age profile either

when its someone you don't like its irrational fanboyism. then again its possible people have different opinions than you.

[VanessaFeltz.]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Thatīs just from some her very vocal haters, which she has much less, i admit.

But i have seen it here, and see it most of the time. Almost everything she does is praised regardless of what it is.

When you have a loyal fanbase like new york everything you do seem perfect to your fans. I think Katie Price benefited from same thing if she didnt have the fan base she had before cbb there was no way she could win because she was useless in the house.

sometimes i feel off with new york (crying when hms leave) but in the end for me i still love her because her qualities definitely over weights her flaws in my eyes. (Her flawless gifs will always slay my life)

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MelihV

When you have a loyal fanbase like new york everything you do seem perfect to your fans. I think Katie Price benefited from same thing if she didnt have the fan base she had before cbb there was no way she could win because she was useless in the house.

sometimes i feel off with new york (crying when hms leave) but in the end for me i still love her because her qualities definitely over weights her flaws in my eyes. (Her flawless gifs will always slay my life)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

where is this? every other post is how awful she is. and he definitely got boos during the live show so... now scotty t on the other hand seems to be some sort of God (yet hasn't had a single interesting moment, aside from messing around with tiff)

agreed on Scotty, he has had a few lucid moments but 90-% of the time I can barely make out what he says

[Maru]

She has overwhelming self-love/confidence and sometimes that attracts a lot of hate because people want to take that down a notch. Gemma is at least funny about it. She's not even trying to be more than she is so slips under the radar more.

Gemma bores me with her constant meddling in other people's ****. Tiffany I can easily ignore.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the clap1 squad in da house

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the clap1 squad in da house

I'm gonna clap1 every post from now on.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I'm gonna clap1 every post from now on.

You REALLY DO love LT don't you Girth? You would miss him so much if he wasn't here.

[joeysteele]

I actually like Tiffany when she is okay and calmer, however I hate people throwing themselves at others in the very sad and desperate way she did the other night.

Most of the time I like watching Tiffany but once she goes into that mode, I find her one massive turn off.

[ebandit]

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark L

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by ebandit

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark L

Maybe 'extreme hate' is a bit too much but she does get a lot of hate for no real reason.

I do think it is hate though. I dont think there is anything she can do to win them over.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ebandit

members knock steph for not really understanding love................but do

certain members here understand the concept of 'extreme hate?'

Mark L

nicely put mark

[ebandit]

maybe i'm being a 'little too grown up'.....seems like a little

dislike to me

Mark L

[Jamie89]

There's a lot of irrational hate (or maybe "hate's" too strong, but it does seem irrational a lot of the time), like it's fine if people don't like her but I've seen some comments that are just gross and unnecessary, and don't even make sense. And I've noticed that a lot of jibes get thrown at the people supporting her, which I don't think happens as much with fans of other HM's from what I've noticed. I don't really get that either. Especially as someone who wasn't supporting her before she went in or even at the start of the show. Tiffany's reached a wide appeal so it isn't a 'type' of person that is supporting her like some have suggested. But anyway, I can understand why she might not be to some peoples tastes but I can't understand why she gets the level of hate she does on here.

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

There's a lot of irrational hate (or maybe "hate's" too strong, but it does seem irrational a lot of the time), like it's fine if people don't like her but I've seen some comments that are just gross and unnecessary, and don't even make sense. And I've noticed that a lot of jibes get thrown at the people supporting her, which I don't think happens as much with fans of other HM's from what I've noticed. I don't really get that either. Especially as someone who wasn't supporting her before she went in or even at the start of the show. Tiffany's reached a wide appeal so it isn't a 'type' of person that is supporting her like some have suggested. But anyway, I can understand why she might not be to some peoples tastes but I can't understand why she gets the level of hate she does on here.

yep. its gotten ugly around here of late. not sure what brings it out. its just a dumb tv show, really the dumbest with grade z celebs doing silly stunts.

[Calderyon]

The Tiffany i really disliked was the one was on FL1 and FL2. She was one of the biggest garbages ever on television. A truly dislikable being.

This version is much better than her, but still not for my liking, because she still has the same annoying voice, laugh and part of her personality.

Itīs more the "too-much-love-for-one-person-without-much-of-a-reason" that somewhat irks me.

She has good qualities, but there is just not enough to get me to like her.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

The Tiffany i really disliked was the one was on FL1 and FL2. She was one of the biggest garbages ever on television.

This one is much better than her, but still not for my liking, because she still has the same voice, laugh and part of her personality.

Itīs more the "too-much-love-for-one-person-without-much-reason" that somewhat irks me.

Me too ,and its all none deserving

[Jordan.]

I remember people at the start saying she wouldn't last long and here she is as favourite to win. So I can understand people now feeling threatened and throwing excessive hate

[aj2463]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I remember people at the start saying she wouldn't last long and here she is as favourite to win. So I can understand people now feeling threatened and throwing excessive hate

I'm glad She's still there and fave to win. Only one worth watching tbh.