[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is a very obvious forum clique that go around hunting in packs. It just sucks all the enjoyment out of posting on this forum.

Sorry but I think that's a bit dramatic. 'Hunting in packs' like it's the Hunger Games around here

[bots]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Sorry but I think that's a bit dramatic. 'Hunting in packs' like it's the Hunger Games around here

Its plain for anyone to see

[Amy Jade]

I didn't tell you what to tell your friends I simply questioned as to why you would tell Luke his opinion is hate filled but never do the same to people who clearly hate Tiffany and ridicule her for her appearance amongst other things

I also didn't get personal with you I just said I found your post ironic. Haha

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I didn't tell you what to tell your friends I simply questioned as to why you would tell Luke his opinion is hate filled but never do the same to people who clearly hate Tiffany and ridicule her for her appearance amongst other things

I also didn't get personal with you I just said I found your post ironic. Haha

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Shame you're not as quick to dish out that advice to your good friends on the forum who make their daily very disrespectful threads about Tiffany

This is your post,there was no need for it really as I said I was playing with Luke a bit,I would say that is a tad personal.people are allowed to dislike Tiffany,but if you don't think so,take it up with them,not me.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

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Shame you're not as quick to dish out that advice to your good friends on the forum who make their daily very disrespectful threads about Tiffany

This is your post,there was no need for it really as I said I was playing with Luke a bit,I would say that is a tad personal.people are allowed to dislike Tiffany,but if you don't think so,take it up with them,not me.

How is that personal? I didn't say a single word about you

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

How is that personal? I didn't say a single word about you

[LukeB]

Amy wasn't telling you what to do, she was questioning it. Because it does seem strange how my john dislike is a problem, tbh i don't need to do anything because my john dislike isn't that OTT like the tiffany threads, your friends make them and you don't say anything. Why should I stop making john threads? no one is being personal here.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Amy wasn't telling you what to do, she was questioning it. Because it does seem strange how my john dislike is a problem, tbh i don't need to do anything because my john dislike isn't that OTT like the tiffany threads, your friends make them and you don't say anything. Why should I stop making john threads? no one is being personal here.

Luke you can make as many threads about John as you want,I don't tell my friends what to say or do ,so certainly wouldn't tell anyone else,I am not my friends keeper,you might do that with your friends ,I don't. I was talking to you about john,and it was kind of playful and now its way off topic,because some people are obsessed with Tiffany,I mean really ,people don't HAVE to like her as you don't like John,no one should really care that much.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Luke you can make as many threads about John as you want,I don't tell my friends what to say or do ,so certainly wouldn't tell anyone else,I am not my friends keeper,you might do that with your friends ,I don't. I was talking to you about john,and it was kind of playful and now its way off topic,because some people are obsessed with Tiffany,I mean really ,people don't HAVE to like her as you don't like John,no one should really care that much.

Now who's the one getting personal?

You can't make it up honestly

[jet]

I can't stand John. The way he flounces around in that awful dressing gown open to show his chest hair like a two - bit actor at half time. Does he own any clothes or does he just not wash them?
He thinks that everything that comes out of his mouth is the final word on any subject. Mr. Authority, Mr. Know It All and Mr. Perfect.
I don't see the appeal at all. He bores me rigid.

[Northern Monkey]

John was right.She's annoying as feck and i'm no John fan.

[Mac1978]

I can understand that Steph mightn't be the easiest to live with. So I'd say some of her housemates complaints are genuine.

But John's passive aggressive outburst at the table was a bit harsh for me. There just wasn't any need of it.

[Papillon]

Originally Posted by Mac1978

I can understand that Steph mightn't be the easiest to live with. So I'd say some of her housemates complaints are genuine.

But John's passive aggressive outburst at the table was a bit harsh for me. There just wasn't any need of it.

what outburst at what table
If you are talking about the edited clip shown on BOTS last nite, it was in the living room AFTER Gemma's eviction, they were sitting on the sofas.

That so called outburst, wasn't what BOTS made out it was, very cleverly edited & completely out of context.
Steph was going on and on about hearing cheers and being saved first.
John just told her it's time for her to stop talking about Jezzer 24/7 & saying she is the most hated woman in the world.
They only have 3 days left before final, Steph should just enjoy it and put herself first. The pampering to her insecurities had to stop & I agree with John with this, Steph is a very needy Woman, not a young girl.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Papillon

what outburst at what table
If you are talking about the edited clip shown on BOTS last nite, it was in the living room AFTER Gemma's eviction, they were sitting on the sofas.

That so called outburst, wasn't what BOTS made out it was, very cleverly edited & completely out of context.
Steph was going on and on about hearing cheers and being saved first.
John just told her it's time for her to stop talking about Jezzer 24/7 & saying she is the most hated woman in the world.
They only have 3 days left before final, Steph should just enjoy it and put herself first. The pampering to her insecurities had to stop & I agree with John with this, Steph is a very needy Woman, not a young girl.

Well said, that is exactly how I saw it too and I didn't hear anyone disagreeing with what he said either, so clearly he was likely saying what everyone was thinking anyway.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Papillon

what outburst at what table
If you are talking about the edited clip shown on BOTS last nite, it was in the living room AFTER Gemma's eviction, they were sitting on the sofas.

That so called outburst, wasn't what BOTS made out it was, very cleverly edited & completely out of context.
Steph was going on and on about hearing cheers and being saved first.
John just told her it's time for her to stop talking about Jezzer 24/7 & saying she is the most hated woman in the world.
They only have 3 days left before final, Steph should just enjoy it and put herself first. The pampering to her insecurities had to stop & I agree with John with this, Steph is a very needy Woman, not a young girl.

Exactly Papillion,selective hearing and sight is rife on here.The truth really hurts sometimes.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I know people are entitled to their opinions on people etc.. but John disliking Stephanie seems really odd and strange, it came out of no where..I think he's only disliking her because it's a popular opinion and wants to please the public.. 'redemption' We already saw him lie about "the only one being Tiffany's friend" when he was trying to get her to leave.But he knows Tiffany is popular so yet again trying to please the public

john sees allot more of her then we do ie 1 hour a day. I trust his judgment.

[Kazanne]

I will also say the title of this thread is so misleading,John has NEVER once said he dislikes Stephanie,just her constant talk about Jezza is annoying,that is fact,not some fabricated title to make him look the evil baddie.

[Pink Pegasus]

I think Stephanie is getting on everybody's nerves in there!

They all just want to enjoy their final few days in the house and Steph DOES keep going on and on and on about Jeremy and HER situation, so I could see how that could very quickly become irritating and draining when you just want to have some fun and enjoy the last few days.

They have each all at some point either listened to her, offered her advice in the early stages, comforted her at bad times, supported her when she said she had finally made a decision that she wants to be with Jeremy, offered her further advice after she had made that decision that she should just explain in her interview that she met someone and fell in love and that she never planned for it to happen etc etc etc, aside from some big rows they've mostly been as comforting and supportive as they could be, so what more does she want from them? They just want her to stop going on and on about it for goodness sake!

It's not just John who is finding Steph annoying. Scotty couldn't even watch Steph's electric shock task on the screen without getting annoyed by her (I think because he and a few others felt she was deliberately getting shocked for attention?), Daniella and Tiffany have also expressed annoyance at Steph over the Jeremy thing and her untidiness as has Darren.

I think John is just reaching boiling point at this stage with all the annoyances built up.

That's not to say though that I don't think John is possibly a tactical player. I think Amy Jade and some others theory that John befriends who he believes may be popular - that theory may hold some merit.

I don't think he's a completely fake or nasty person at all though, but I do think he's clever and I quite like him and would like to see him do well.

But let's just say even though I believe his annoyance and reaching boiling point with Steph is completely genuine and understandable, at the same time, after Steph topping the votes to save I would not be very surprised if John's anger and annoyance towards Stephanie softens considerably in the coming days.... It would be foolish of him if he didn't...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Pink Pegasus

I think Stephanie is getting on everybody's nerves in there!

They all just want to enjoy their final few days in the house and Steph DOES keep going on and on and on about Jeremy and HER situation, so I could see how that could very quickly become irritating and draining when you just want to have some fun and enjoy the last few days.

They have each all at some point either listened to her, offered her advice in the early stages, comforted her at bad times, supported her when she said she had finally made a decision that she wants to be with Jeremy, offered her further advice after she had made that decision that she should just explain in her interview that she met someone and fell in love and that she never planned for it to happen etc etc etc, aside from some big rows they've mostly been as comforting and supportive as they could be, so what more does she want from them? They just want her to stop going on and on about it for goodness sake!

It's not just John who is finding Steph annoying. Scotty couldn't even watch Steph's electric shock task on the screen without getting annoyed by her (I think because he and a few others felt she was deliberately getting shocked for attention?), Daniella and Tiffany have also expressed annoyance at Steph over the Jeremy thing and her untidiness as has Darren.

I think John is just reaching boiling point at this stage with all the annoyances built up.

That's not to say though that I don't think John is possibly a tactical player. I think Amy Jade and some others theory that John befriends who he believes may be popular - that theory may hold some merit.

I don't think he's a completely fake or nasty person at all though, but I do think he's clever and I quite like him and would like to see him do well.

But let's just say even though I believe his annoyance and reaching boiling point with Steph is completely genuine and understandable, at the same time, after Steph topping the votes to save I would not be very surprised if John's anger and annoyance towards Stephanie softens considerably in the coming days.... It would be foolish of him if he didn't...

..excellent post as always Peggy.....and I agree with you, I think Steph has got on all of the housemate's last nerve and as they said last night, just so wearing down and of course a few drinks brings out that 'weary feeling' as well, either in tensions/confrontations etc or just uggghh, I'm done with you, stuff.....but of course they can't be done with her because there she is and there's no getting way from it all and on it goes...


...obviously he can only do as well as 2nd place because Tiffany's going to win.....but like you, I would like to see him do well because although he's got it wrong at times and too readily 'followed' in what he's seen as something 'safe' ..I get the feeling that he is someone ..(and for whatever reason..)...who really does feel the need of some kind of 'acceptance', and has given us a lot in his quest for that, some good/some not so good but he's 'put himself out there' for sure...and yeah, I do think that we may see a little warming to Steph over the next few days and that weariness slipping away....but then, we would see that anyway and I think from all of them just because that end is in site and they're all naturally going to feel far less irritable in general with the relief of it all and the thoughts of seeing their families/friends again...I don't mind him, he gave up his career for his mum, has been a comforting voice to housemates at times and seems like an ok guy and I hope that BB has given him a positive experience with whatever he felt he wanted to get out of it....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..excellent post as always Peggy.....and I agree with you, I think Steph has got on all of the housemate's last nerve and as they said last night, just so wearing down and of course a few drinks brings out that 'weary feeling' as well, either in tensions/confrontations etc or just uggghh, I'm done with you stuff.....but of course they can't be done with her because there she is and there's no getting way from it all and on it goes...


...obviously he can only do as well as 2nd place because Tiffany's going to win.....but like you, I would like to see him do well because although he's got it wrong at times and too readily 'followed' in what he's seen as something 'safe' ..I get the feeling that he is someone ..(and for whatever reason..)...who really does feel the need of some kind of 'acceptance', and has given us a lot in his quest for that, some good/some not so good but he's 'put himself out there' for sure...and yeah, I do think that we may see a little warming to Steph over the next few days and that weariness slipping away....but then, we would see that anyway and I think from all of them just because that end in site and they're all naturally going to feel far less irritable in general with the relief of it all and the thoughts of seeing their families/friends again...I don't mind him, he gave up his career for his mum, has been a comforting voice to housemates at times and seems like an ok guy and I hope that BB has given him a positive experience with whatever he felt he wanted to get out of it....

He went in the CBB house to get the fee for his mothers continuing care,so wherever John comes in BB his job is done,for me he has been the best housemate this year and I have enjoyed watching him.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He went in the CBB house to get the fee for his mothers continuing care,so wherever John comes in BB his job is done,for me he has been the best housemate this year and I have enjoyed watching him.

I agree with this. Given the amount of producer manipulation these days and the variation in fan base numbers before they enter, its not a fair or representative contest. They have done their time, get paid their fee. Thats all that can be concluded from it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

He went in the CBB house to get the fee for his mothers continuing care,so wherever John comes in BB his job is done,for me he has been the best housemate this year and I have enjoyed watching him.

That is good of him to do that, but I dislike HM's to say they want the money for a good cause. It gives them an advantage.
He must have made little from his career too not to have a good stash put away at his age.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I will also say the title of this thread is so misleading,John has NEVER once said he dislikes Stephanie,just her constant talk about Jezza is annoying,that is fact,not some fabricated title to make him look the evil baddie.

How is it misleading when the title doesn't say John said "I dislike Stephanie"

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

How is it misleading when the title doesn't say John said "I dislike Stephanie"

You titled it 'John disliking Stephanie' you are giving the impression he doesn't like her which is wrong, surely you can see that.he gave her some advice so I would say it should be the opposite!!

[cassieparis]

Having reached the final week after a precarious start, John has decided to relax and let his full 3itch out. Stephanie irritates him with her repetitive need for comfort and assurance. He's just letting Stephanie know her behavior is insufferable.