[Kizzy]

Essentially yes, having said that it would be interesting to see the list of patients and causes of death before committing myself fully.
If it was due to a young person with a life limiting condition and a 98yr old with associated age related degeneration then there's a difference imo.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Essentially yes, having said that it would be interesting to see the list of patients and causes of death before committing myself fully.
If it was due to a young person with a life limiting condition and a 98yr old with associated age related degeneration then there's a difference imo.

Except if it was your relative I'm guessing you'd feel differently. Old people are not worthless and doctors are not Gods. If they can help someone they are duty bound by the Hippocratic Oath to do so.

People make the mistake of thinking that all medical staff are caring angels. I think the Liverpool Pathway put paid to that idea. And deciding who should die is not a decision anyone can make.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Except if it was your relative I'm guessing you'd feel differently. Old people are not worthless and doctors are not Gods. If they can help someone they are duty bound by the Hippocratic Oath to do so.

People make the mistake of thinking that all medical staff are caring angels. I think the Liverpool Pathway put paid to that idea. And deciding who should die is not a decision anyone can make.

How do you know I haven't?...

Who suggested anyone was worthless? Personally I'd say there comes a point where nothing else can be done, and at that point then DNR be applied.
That said there should be a greater degree of openness surrounding the use of DNR.

[AnnieK]

When my mum was ill they discussed DNR with her alone and as she was quite poorly by that time she really didn't understand it. I wished they had waited for my dad to get there as it caused her quite a bit of distress. She had already refused treatment as her diagnosis was still terminal so I don't think they should have discussed it with her on her own but waited for my dad to get there.