[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by easypeasy
its funny how i would consider visiting a dutch prostitute but wouldnt dream of it here, its not the legal thing that scares me, its just the principle of a pimp exploiting a women and the gamble of sexual health that would put me off.

Over there the girls are respected and treated decently.

I agree with you there easypeasy.... I've been to Amsterdam.... there way of handling prostitution seems to work well. There attitude towards it is very lighthearted, sex is sex..... its supposed to be fun isnt it?????

[Mrluvaluva]

Prostitution should definitely be legalised in my opinion.

1. Workers in the industry can be safe whilst working if the thing is policed correctly in a non residential area. They wont get beaten up by their "clients" and ripped off.

2. They will not have a pimp so will not get ripped off.

3. Proper contraception will be available for them to avoid any unwanted STD's etc.

4. They won't have to go off alone in a car and be driven to a secluded place, where they face the possibility of being raped or murdered.

5. I am sure the rate of rapes will go down.

6. They can't be prosecuted. Currently they get fined for working the streets, and then have to go back out to pay for this. It's a vicious circle.

Won't they then have to declare themselves as self employed and have to fill a load of forms in?? lol

[Lauren]

Originally posted by bgrayshon
6. They can't be prosecuted. Currently they get fined for working the streets, and then have to go back out to pay for this. It's a vicious circle.

Or they could get a conventional, LEGAL job.

Much easier.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Lauren

Or they could get a conventional, LEGAL job.
Much easier.

Prostitution is the oldest job in history. I would much rather see it legalised than see sex wokers vindicated and violated by pimps, clients and others

[Lauren]

Originally posted by kizwiz

Prostitution is the oldest job in history. I would much rather see it legalised than see sex wokers vindicated and violated by pimps, clients and others

It's probably the most dangerous job as well... also being illegal doesn't help the matter further. I'd rather they just stopped being criminals, to be honest.

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by kizwiz

I agree with you there easypeasy.... I've been to Amsterdam.... there way of handling prostitution seems to work well. There attitude towards it is very lighthearted, sex is sex..... its supposed to be fun isnt it?????

Its never as much fun as when its part of a loving relationship, but sex alone can be great fun. the shocking thing is i genuinely got the impression the lady i paid to be intimate with actually enjoyed her job! im not trying to blow my own trumpet or anything, but i dont think women over there are forced into prostitution because its a last resort.
Im positive it is considered such over here.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Lauren
It's probably the most dangerous job as well... also being illegal doesn't help the matter further. I'd rather they just stopped being criminals, to be honest.

Hmm.... so in order for them to stop being criminals it should be legalised. Whats wrong with selling your body... its natural.... sex is sex. i would rather a bloke goes to see a hooker than grab a girl off the street or who is off her head in a club and take advantage.

[lily.]

I can see where you are coming from Lauren, in that they can't expect the law to protect them whilst they are breaking the law.

However, that's one of my main arguments for changing the law. Legalise the trade then they will have employee rights just like the rest of us, and will be protected by the law, and look on the bright side, they will be paying taxes on their income, and contributing something to the country.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by kizwiz

Hmm.... so in order for them to stop being criminals it should be legalised. Whats wrong with selling your body... its natural.... sex is sex. i would rather a bloke goes to see a hooker than grab a girl off the street or who is off her head in a club and take advantage.

Sex is sex. Spot on.

Sex is not an occupation.

I see where you're all coming from, in saying that legalising it will provide the right measures for prostitution to take place without people being murdered etc.
It just doesn't sit well with me to know that the law is actively allowing and sometimes encouraging women to sell their bodies in order for them to make a living.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Lauren

Or they could get a conventional, LEGAL job.
Much easier.

Prostitites play a vital role. They will always be needed. If we didn't have them, don't you think there would be more rapes? They are used for sex by people who cannot get it any other way. If they were not there, how else would they get it? Only by force..........

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by Lauren

Sex is sex. Spot on.

Sex is not an occupation.

I see where you're all coming from, in saying that legalising it will provide the right measures for prostitution to take place without people being murdered etc.
It just doesn't sit well with me to know that the law is actively allowing and sometimes encouraging women to sell their bodies in order for them to make a living.

but surely everday working people are renting out their bodies in soul-destroying dead-end factories? whats wrong with a female wanting to earn a living from a more pleasurable job?

[easypeasy]

Originally posted by bgrayshon

Prostitites play a vital role. They will always be needed. If we didn't have them, don't you think there would be more rapes? They are used for sex by people who cannot get it any other way. If they were not there, how else would they get it? Only by force..........

i tend to think rape is more about power than sex, and its not always single men who hire prostitutes, Ive known of male/female couples hire a working girl to spice things up a bit.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by easypeasy
whats wrong with a female wanting to earn a living from a more pleasurable job?

Ok, you got me there.

Although I will say many women turn to prostitution in a vivcious cycle of money and drugs as opposed to just wanting some every night.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Lauren
Ok, you got me there.

Although I will say many women turn to prostitution in a vivcious cycle of money and drugs as opposed to just wanting some every night.

But if they were within a working 'house' they would have access to healthcare to help them

[Lauren]

Originally posted by kizwiz

But if they were within a working 'house' they would have access to healthcare to help them

I still see fundamental problems (In terms of moral and values) of women demoralising themselves to the point where men pay to have sex with them. Regardless of whether they get pleasure from it or not, I see it as morally unacceptable.

[easypeasy]

thats fair enough Lauren, its a moral issue. so if its kept out of your way and handled discretely and properly surely that would be better than having it dangerous and in unmarked public areas such as parks etc where kids hang out?

[Lauren]

Legalising it could cause further problems. It can push prostitutes further into the underworld of prostitution as they're forced to register details once it's legalised and so many of them lose their anonymity they once had.
Also, it could lead to increasing numbers of immigrant women being used for these purposes. 80% of prostitutes in Dutch brothels are from other countries, probably trafficked to Amsterdam with promises of a good-paying job and instead they're put into prostitution to pave their way for a life.

[Sunny_01]

Should we legalese prostitution?

I think that we should legalise prostitution. It would make it both safer for the women, but also for the customers who could then go to a licensed prostitute who would hopefully have been tested for STD's My hope is that it would be legalised with strict guidelines including testing etc...

Who does it harm and how?

I think that the way things are now the people that it hurts the most is the prostitutes themselves. It does this because they are an easily exploited minority

Should we follow places like Amsterdam and take it off the streets into save house?

I dont think it would be a bad idea, but who would run them?? and how would they be ran?

Would it eliminate child prostitution?

Sadly I dont think so. There is always going to be a group of peadophiles who will happily exploit the child prostitution market that is available to them, it would just make it more of a money spinner for the vile creatures that run it

Would it stop the illegal trafficking of them?

Again I doubt it for the same reasons I gave above.

[Red Moon]

Yes we should.

It would be safer for the girls working in the bussiness not to be on the street but in houses which had special equipment which allowed them to get help if problem arose with a punter. Also better chcks could be made on the girls health and help be required to given if they suffered from a drug problem before entering a house. In addition to this think of the tax that would be generated.

In general any thing that is legal can be better controlled and policed than something that is illegal.

[Siouxsie]

I do not agree to legalising prostitution at all. One of the reasons it is inviting young girls to go out and sell their bodies just to make a living.(An easy way of earning leaving them with no self respect) It is against the law and personally i think its disgusting.Plus who knows what protection these women are taking. Probably no protection whatsoever which causes more problems.

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Supersue
I do not agree to legalising prostitution at all. One of the reasons it is inviting young girls to go out and sell their bodies just to make a living.(An easy way of earning leaving them with no self respect) It is against the law and personally i think its disgusting.Plus who knows what protection these women are taking. Probably no protection whatsoever which causes more problems.

How very niave to think that they do this without protection. Most prostitutes actually recieve free health checks monthly and all their contraception included in this. I think that you will find that most STD's etc are passed between people having sex with non prostitues that with those that make a living out of it. They make a living out of it by making it safe!

[Siouxsie]

maybe! but i dont think all women get regular checks. I am aware thathese healthchecks are available but how many women actually use the system. Just my opinion. No I say leave the law the way it is.

[~Kizwiz~]

Originally posted by Supersue
Plus who knows what protection these women are taking. Probably no protection whatsoever which causes more problems.

But if they had safe house they would have regular check to make sure they were in top health. Given free protection and be off the streets where more harm can be done to them.

It is against the law and personally i think its disgusting.

Like I said before in another post... its the oldest profession in history. Sex is sex.....its always going to happen. The best thing is to make it as safe as possible and for the workers to be healthy.

[Bells]

I don’t see why it shouldn't be legalised. It’s all about choice to begin with at the end of the day! It's about a choice on the prostitutes' part and the way the public generally deals with them. I too have been to Amsterdam and I think it's an excellent point that's been flagged up - there the topic of sex is treated with such freedom and open minds, it’s awe-inspiring, whereas in other cultures the whole thing is very hush-hush. Nowadays I’m finding that everything’s becoming a lot more open in society in lots of different cultures, which I think is a good thing because it’s allowing people to become more accepting and comfortable. You walk around in the streets of Amsterdam and you’ll see sex show theatres everywhere all along one street perhaps – and it’s so open to the public rather than being shunned away. Therefore, the people who choose to go there can do – it’s all about free choice!

[Sunny_01]

Originally posted by Supersue
maybe! but i dont think all women get regular checks. I am aware thathese healthchecks are available but how many women actually use the system. Just my opinion. No I say leave the law the way it is.

I respect your opinion Sue but have to disagree

I just think it would go such a long way towards clearing up the streets. Not only would it clear up the streets but it might in fact reduce the amount of attacks on young women who are mistaken for prostitutes!